David Haye v Giancobbe Fragomeni European Title RBR - 10pm SS1

[superheavyrhun]

have u guys got laptops or pc in the living room?

Living in my bachelor pad, it is a pimped up pc, where i can watch both the pc and the tv screen at the same time. And the leather couch and 32" plasma pretty much make this perfect for me. I got a laptop too if my eyes start to fade, and the distance to the TV becomes too much.

[Majesty]

From what I'm reading. Bell would KTFO Haye if he got past the 3rd round.

Yeah, you can really see the punches flying on saddoboxing forum. Fucking idiot.

So I'm an idiot for reading people's opinions of a fight and start a statement saying "From what I'm reading." And not making a blanket statement as if I'd seen the fight.

And then you call me a fucking idiot?

That doesn't make you look any better trying to back up anything you say being overly harsh with me for having an opinion different from yours

There's better ways to solve that

Yeah, its amazing how when you can know it all from being sat in front of your computer. How can you have an opinion after looking at some 12 font arial.

Since when did I say I know it all?

Look kid, I'm not going to get into it with you because you feel I dissed a fighter you're a fan of.

But don't disrespect me and my opinion calling me a fucking idiot because I don't have the advantage of being in the UK to watch the fight on the TV.

All I have for this fight is THIS SITE. Especially for fights over there.

And from what I was reading how Haye performed and the issues with his stamina being brought up. I form an opinion that if thats the case, Bell would beat him if he survived the first three rounds.

There are many people who come to this site for rbr's so are you saying their opinion isn't valid from what they are reading when it's all they have?

Don't be so inconsiderate and act with the insults. You don't need that to try to prove a point.

[ross]

Another thing about Hayes power, he said him and Kelvin Davis have been having wars in sparring, well former light middle guillermo Jones and Oneil Bell have both knocked him out

[skel1983]

have u guys got laptops or pc in the living room?

Living in my bachelor pad, it is a pimped up pc, where i can watch both the pc and the tv screen at the same time. And the leather couch and 32" plasma pretty much make this perfect for me. I got a laptop too if my eyes start to fade, and the distance to the TV becomes too much.

Dude i think you should invite the Saddo regulars round for some sort of party, i'll organise the Strippers.

[Oggie]

Although Haye looked to be struggling at certain times during the fight, he showed that:

(A) - He has great heart. A lesser fighter would have wilted under the pressure of an opponent constantly coming forward with success and eventually badly cutting you too.
(B) - He has stamina. The fact that he could buckle an extremely durable fighter, with one punch in the 9th round of a fast paced fight says it all.
(C) - He is entertaining as fwock! The Americans love fighters like Haye.

The only question is if he has got enough to rip the title away from O'Neill Bell? Looking forward to that one.

[superheavyrhun]

have u guys got laptops or pc in the living room?

Living in my bachelor pad, it is a pimped up pc, where i can watch both the pc and the tv screen at the same time. And the leather couch and 32" plasma pretty much make this perfect for me. I got a laptop too if my eyes start to fade, and the distance to the TV becomes too much.

Dude i think you should invite the Saddo regulars round for some sort of party, i'll organise the Strippers.

What you really need to realise is I live way out on the Welsh coast....so 5 hours by car from London, but y'all are welcome out here for a lash up in the count-reeeeeeee! Strippers will be asking for mileage y'know, the nearest one to my place I know of is nearly 60 miles south

Although Haye looked to be struggling at certain times during the fight, he showed that:

(A) - He has great heart. A lesser fighter would have wilted under the pressure of an opponent constantly coming forward with success and eventually badly cutting you too.
(B) - He has stamina. The fact that he could buckle an extremely durable fighter, with one punch in the 9th round of a fast paced fight says it all.
(C) - He is entertaining as fwock! The Americans love fighters like Haye.

The only question is if he has got enough to rip the title away from O'Neill Bell? Looking forward to that one.

Damn right son, this was an entertaining fight with no doubt, though I do think he was on the wane coming into round 9, and he dragged it from the base of the fuel tank some massive punches to finish off Fragomeni. Being cut would have been a massive shock to Haye, so far into his career, and he did get over it well, and show some character to do it. As for the previous question posed, I think Haye was in pretty good shape, and does very well to get down to the weight with as much muscle as he does. When you look at the 6'5" Hobson, who fights at the same weight, Haye carries a bundle more power, and some big arms, where Hobson looks quite thin.

[ross]

Haye should clean house, take on Enzo, theres someone with power to push Haye although his chin is just as good as hayes

[superheavyrhun]

Haye should clean house, take on Enzo, theres someone with power to push Haye although his chin is just as good as hayes

Enzo seems like the natural fight for the both of the,m, but it seems that, naturally, they are both eyeing up shots at O'Neil Bell, but either way it's good to have two good British Cruisers who are forces on a world stage.

[Saddo]

Cool click mate

just added this rd by rd to the countdown page... nice work

[Saddo]

Haye should clean house, take on Enzo, theres someone with power to push Haye although his chin is just as good as hayes

love to see that fight Haye would spark him early IMO.

dont expect Warren to put him in with Haye anytime soon... IF EVER

[Sweet_T]

hi folks

Just watched the fight!!

Wow!! Brutal and difficult for Haye but what a finish! He sure goes in for the kill doesnt he?!

The little Italian would always be awkward. Small and compact and constantly pushing forward.

Haye found the key and answered a lot of questions!!

Whoever said it wasnt a fast pace is insane. Try being stalked around the ring for every second of every round!

Tough fight!!

Tc

[yoitsdan]

Haye should clean house, take on Enzo, theres someone with power to push Haye although his chin is just as good as hayes

love to see that fight Haye would spark him early IMO.

dont expect Warren to put him in with Haye anytime soon... IF EVER

I'll go with that prediction Saddo. If Mark Hobson can put him on his arse then Haye will knock his block off.

[superheavyrhun]

Haye should clean house, take on Enzo, theres someone with power to push Haye although his chin is just as good as hayes

love to see that fight Haye would spark him early IMO.

dont expect Warren to put him in with Haye anytime soon... IF EVER

I'll go with that prediction Saddo. If Mark Hobson can put him on his a*** then Haye will knock his block off.

*And the Welshman chimed in.....*

Personally I think it would be a 50/50 fight, with both of them having overcome tought short fighters recently, but Enzo with more experience, and slightly better at exposing Haye's less than watertight guard. Either way, I'd bet my right testicle that it wouldn't go the distance.

[yoitsdan]

From what I'm reading. Bell would KTFO Haye if he got past the 3rd round.

Yeah, you can really see the punches flying on saddoboxing forum. Fucking idiot.

So I'm an idiot for reading people's opinions of a fight and start a statement saying "From what I'm reading." And not making a blanket statement as if I'd seen the fight.

And then you call me a fucking idiot?

That doesn't make you look any better trying to back up anything you say being overly harsh with me for having an opinion different from yours

There's better ways to solve that

Yeah, its amazing how when you can know it all from being sat in front of your computer. How can you have an opinion after looking at some 12 font arial.

Since when did I say I know it all?

Look kid, I'm not going to get into it with you because you feel I dissed a fighter you're a fan of.

But don't disrespect me and my opinion calling me a fucking idiot because I don't have the advantage of being in the UK to watch the fight on the TV.

All I have for this fight is THIS SITE. Especially for fights over there.

And from what I was reading how Haye performed and the issues with his stamina being brought up. I form an opinion that if thats the case, Bell would beat him if he survived the first three rounds.

There are many people who come to this site for rbr's so are you saying their opinion isn't valid from what they are reading when it's all they have?

Don't be so inconsiderate and act with the insults. You don't need that to try to prove a point.

With all due respect to everyone on this site, yes that is what i'm trying to say. How can someone possibly pass judgement on a fight they can't even see themselves. Ok, fair enough, the screen isn't in front of their eyes, but your majesty, your not helping matters when people are trying to actually get a clue whats happening when you say, "By the sounds of it Haye would get KO'd in 3 rounds by O'neil Bell" what the hell is that. It's like looking at a woman wearing a baraclava and saying "Wow she has a pretty face"

[Majesty]

From what I'm reading. Bell would KTFO Haye if he got past the 3rd round.

Yeah, you can really see the punches flying on saddoboxing forum. Fucking idiot.

So I'm an idiot for reading people's opinions of a fight and start a statement saying "From what I'm reading." And not making a blanket statement as if I'd seen the fight.

And then you call me a fucking idiot?

That doesn't make you look any better trying to back up anything you say being overly harsh with me for having an opinion different from yours

There's better ways to solve that

Yeah, its amazing how when you can know it all from being sat in front of your computer. How can you have an opinion after looking at some 12 font arial.

Since when did I say I know it all?

Look kid, I'm not going to get into it with you because you feel I dissed a fighter you're a fan of.

But don't disrespect me and my opinion calling me a fucking idiot because I don't have the advantage of being in the UK to watch the fight on the TV.

All I have for this fight is THIS SITE. Especially for fights over there.

And from what I was reading how Haye performed and the issues with his stamina being brought up. I form an opinion that if thats the case, Bell would beat him if he survived the first three rounds.

There are many people who come to this site for rbr's so are you saying their opinion isn't valid from what they are reading when it's all they have?

Don't be so inconsiderate and act with the insults. You don't need that to try to prove a point.

With all due respect to everyone on this site, yes that is what i'm trying to say. How can someone possibly pass judgement on a fight they can't even see themselves. Ok, fair enough, the screen isn't in front of their eyes, but your majesty, your not helping matters when people are trying to actually get a clue whats happening when you say, "By the sounds of it Haye would get KO'd in 3 rounds by O'neil Bell" what the hell is that. It's like looking at a woman wearing a baraclava and saying "Wow she has a pretty face"

I didn't say he'd get "KO'd in three" I said that "From what i've read, Bell could ktfo Haye IF HE GOT PAST THE THIRD ROUND" That had to do with the stamina issues I was reading about.

And when I saw Haye on ESPN he shot his load too quickly and got tired.

Thats why at the beginning of this I asked if he had gotten any better because the last time I'd seen him on ESPN he was in trouble


And then when I heard he was already tired I asked "He didnt change then?"

And then I kept reading and from what I read of the fight, Haye has stamina issues past the third, and doesn't seem to have an all together good chin.

So from what I read, I said that "From what I've read, Bell would ktfo Haye if he got past the third round."

I didnt say "Bell would knock out Haye in 3"

I acknowledged that I hadn't seen the fight and was basing my opinion off of what I read.

Do you get what I am saying?