Could Peter's granite chin withstand Wlad's sledgehammer right?

[Bx730NY]

I've said this like a million times that's why. If Wlad is that scared to get punched in his face that he turns his head that's not necessarily Peters fault. Think about that.

It's not just vs Wlad....it's not like it was a one time thing that Sam Peter did, he's done it to NUMEROUS fighters.....don't bullshit Sam Peter rabbit punches and it's illegal and unlike clinching it can KILL people

and if Sam Peter or ANYONE ELSE for that matter is good enough to beat Wlad they need to know how to not get tied up, if tying someone up made champions then hell Stuart Smalley could be undefeated undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World.....the holding is an EXCUSE and that is all...get over it

Although I'm not a huge fan of Wladdy, I entirely agree. I've heard that Peter was warned in the second Toney fight and began to really watch, and even withdraw, commitments to punches he threw against Toney. The bolo punches aren't good. I'm saying that as a Boxing Fan. They are deadly and can kill someone. That's not what this
sport is about.

Trust me, I feel you on that but you gotta see the fight to see how it happened. Don't go by Lyle cause he's just a Peter basher. Toney had his head down almost the whole fight. Peter has some heavy, heavy hands and guys just don't like getting hit by him so they turn their head alot. I hope you get to see the fight soon so you can see what I'm talking about.

[The Shadow]

Of course not. I have seen way too many ring deaths over the years. I think Sam has to discipline himself on this. By the same token, I know of no fighter who was ever been seriously hurt by a rabbit punch. I'm sure it has happened, but the talking heads give it more due than it's worth. Jim "I'm out on bail" Lampley, Farhood, Bernstein, Merchant and the other imbeciles.

It's up to the referee to control this. If the fighter keeps his head down, he owns it unless it is willfully done. IMO

Yeah, I'm in agreement with you on this, Ted. But heavy impact to portions of the skull can create a subdural hematoma, which in many cases are lethal. I don't think Peter throws these punches intentionally; he's a stand-up guy with a great personality and I think (from what I heard) he was admonished once for doing that in the Toney rematch and even pulled punches that may have hit the back of the head.
I'm not a Neurologist, but I know that these impacts can cause great damage and lead to a boxers death. I, like yourself, wouldn't want to see that happen. Perhaps Lampley and team are being a bit hyperbolic with this issue, but I take it pretty serious. I don't think Samuel will be doing that much more in the ring.

[tedsares]

HHHhhmmm. Wonder where Lampley hit his chick?

[Violent Demise]

HHHhhmmm. Wonder where Lampley hit his chick?

Dumb bitch kept pinching his dope

[tedsares]

Dumb, but oh so sweet......

[Bx730NY]

Of course not. I have seen way too many ring deaths over the years. I think Sam has to discipline himself on this. By the same token, I know of no fighter who was ever been seriously hurt by a rabbit punch. I'm sure it has happened, but the talking heads give it more due than it's worth. Jim "I'm out on bail" Lampley, Farhood, Bernstein, Merchant and the other imbeciles.

It's up to the referee to control this. If the fighter keeps his head down, he owns it unless it is willfully done. IMO

CC...that's exactly my point.

[Big_Deuce]

Of course not. I have seen way too many ring deaths over the years. I think Sam has to discipline himself on this. By the same token, I know of no fighter who was ever been seriously hurt by a rabbit punch. I'm sure it has happened, but the talking heads give it more due than it's worth. Jim "I'm out on bail" Lampley, Farhood, Bernstein, Merchant and the other imbeciles.

It's up to the referee to control this. If the fighter keeps his head down, he owns it unless it is willfully done. IMO

CC...that's exactly my point.

so if i repeatedly head butt someone until their eye falls out of his head its ok as long as the ref lets it happen? Your ok with that?

by the way

jeah I know, but I just think its the refs fault for allowing that crap not wlads, I mean its what the ref gets paid to do, and well we could argue he didnt do to good a effin job in that one...plus I had to defend wlad just cause he seems like a really good person doin that charity work and everything so hard to not defend him for me, but I do totally get what your saying too.

I was a big time Wlad fan before that fight believe it or not and he just completely lost my respect. At first I gave him the benefit of the doubt but then I saw him do it against feather fisted Byrd and that was the last straw.

so, you hate vlad cuz he was allowed to do something..... but the rabbit punches from peter are ok cuz he was allowed to do it?
im confused...help!

[Big_Deuce]

A rabbit punch is a punch to the neck or to the base of the skull. It is considered dangerous because it can damage the cervical vertebrae and subsequently the spinal cord, which may lead to serious spinal cord injury or even death. For this reason the punch is illegal in boxing[1] and many other combat sports that involve striking. The punch's name is derived from the use of the technique by hunters to kill rabbits with a quick, sharp strike to the back of the head, for instance using a blunt object such as a steel pipe.[2]


[edit] References
^ Sugar, Bert. Boxing. www.owingsmillsboxingclub.com. URL last accessed February 26, 2006.
^ Langer, Richard. Extract from "Grow it!". www.motherearthnews.com. URL last accessed February

ok

Of course not. I have seen way too many ring deaths over the years. I think Sam has to discipline himself on this. By the same token, I know of no fighter who was ever been seriously hurt by a rabbit punch. I'm sure it has happened, but the talking heads give it more due than it's worth. Jim "I'm out on bail" Lampley, Farhood, Bernstein, Merchant and the other imbeciles.

It's up to the referee to control this. If the fighter keeps his head down, he owns it unless it is willfully done. IMO

now im super duper confused....

which may lead to serious spinal cord injury or even death.

ok

By the same token, I know of no fighter who was ever been seriously hurt by a rabbit punch. I'm sure it has happened, but the talking heads give it more due than it's worth.

man, what is goin on
i dont mean to pick on bx730 or ted, but
You guys are contradicting yourselves.

one guy says that he disrespects a fighter because he does something in the ring that isnt right, even though the ref allows it, but then says its ok that a different fighter does something he shouldnt because the ref allows it..

then another guy says, hey! doing this can KILL SOMEONE
but then he says, hey it hasnt killed someone yet, so, its no big deal...
Help me!!!
lol jk guys,
but help me understand

[El Kabong]

Ask Gerald McClellan what rabbit punches do


Anyways yes I think this match will be a bit better than their first meeting but I still believe Wlad's offense has Sam on defense the whole night. Sam throws one punch at a time and even if he tries to get a combo in Wlad will drop a power punch on him to stop it.

Sam Peter sounds greatly improved but let him fight Maskaev to get the belt before we really consider the rematch.

I say that because the heavyweight division is full of guys who are great one night and then off for their next fight....Sam Peter and Wladimir Klitschko are no different than anyone else in the division it's tough for these big guys to have 2 good fights in a row.

[tedsares]

Ask Gerald McClellan what rabbit punches do


Anyways yes I think this match will be a bit better than their first meeting but I still believe Wlad's offense has Sam on defense the whole night. Sam throws one punch at a time and even if he tries to get a combo in Wlad will drop a power punch on him to stop it.

Sam Peter sounds greatly improved but let him fight Maskaev to get the belt before we really consider the rematch.

I say that because the heavyweight division is full of guys who are great one night and then off for their next fight....Sam Peter and Wladimir Klitschko are no different than anyone else in the division it's tough for these big guys to have 2 good fights in a row.

Huh? Rabbit punches? You mean head butts, don't you?

[tedsares]

A rabbit punch is a punch to the neck or to the base of the skull. It is considered dangerous because it can damage the cervical vertebrae and subsequently the spinal cord, which may lead to serious spinal cord injury or even death. For this reason the punch is illegal in boxing[1] and many other combat sports that involve striking. The punch's name is derived from the use of the technique by hunters to kill rabbits with a quick, sharp strike to the back of the head, for instance using a blunt object such as a steel pipe.[2]


[edit] References
^ Sugar, Bert. Boxing. www.owingsmillsboxingclub.com. URL last accessed February 26, 2006.
^ Langer, Richard. Extract from "Grow it!". www.motherearthnews.com. URL last accessed February

ok

Of course not. I have seen way too many ring deaths over the years. I think Sam has to discipline himself on this. By the same token, I know of no fighter who was ever been seriously hurt by a rabbit punch. I'm sure it has happened, but the talking heads give it more due than it's worth. Jim "I'm out on bail" Lampley, Farhood, Bernstein, Merchant and the other imbeciles.

It's up to the referee to control this. If the fighter keeps his head down, he owns it unless it is willfully done. IMO

now im super duper confused....

which may lead to serious spinal cord injury or even death.

ok

By the same token, I know of no fighter who was ever been seriously hurt by a rabbit punch. I'm sure it has happened, but the talking heads give it more due than it's worth.

man, what is goin on
i dont mean to pick on bx730 or ted, but
You guys are contradicting yourselves.

one guy says that he disrespects a fighter because he does something in the ring that isnt right, even though the ref allows it, but then says its ok that a different fighter does something he shouldnt because the ref allows it..

then another guy says, hey! doing this can KILL SOMEONE
but then he says, hey it hasnt killed someone yet, so, its no big deal...
Help me!!!
lol jk guys,
but help me understand

Exactly how am I contadicting myself? Where? What I am saying is that Sam needs to better discipline himself on the punches behind the head. I am also saying that the damage they do gets more hyoe than is warranted. Where is there a contradiction. Hitting behind the head can cost a fighter ponts. Sam n3eeds to avoid this.

[tedsares]

What are we doing here? Playing "I gotcha " games? You want to talk about a career disabling foul, let's discuss wilful head butts.

[Big_Deuce]

ok, which would you rather take, a headbutt from holyfield or a punch to the back of the head from peter?
If you have recieved both, im sure youll pick the headbutt, both are wrong to do, and both should lead to point deduction, or DQ
But the punch to the back of the noggin will friggen Kill you.

this might be where im confused...

Exactly how am I contadicting myself? Where? What I am saying is that Sam needs to better discipline himself on the punches behind the head. I am also saying that the damage they do gets more hyoe than is warranted. Where is there a contradiction. Hitting behind the head can cost a fighter ponts. Sam n3eeds to avoid this.

what do you mean it gets more hype than is warranted?

[tedsares]

What I mean is exactly what you are doing here. You are saying that a punch behind the back of the head will kill you, but can you give me some examples of that? I can give examples of where head butts probably ruined some careers, but I can't give you examples of rabbit punches doing the same. That's what I mean when I say more hype than is warranted. Capiche?

[Big_Deuce]

nope...
with that same line of thinking, i suppose a man jumping off mount saint helen shouldn't hurt nearly as much as falling off a bed, seeing as though one happens more than the other, and the fact that i can recall someone getting hurt from the fall from the bed, and not the mountain.
Listen, head butts happen, whether on accident, or on purpose.... And a lot of times it happens so quick ref's don't even notice until a cut is present.... but just because 1 happens more than the other doesn't omit the fact that Punches behind the head are a lot more dangerous than head butts....
once again, i ask this

ok, which would you rather take, a headbutt from holyfield or a punch to the back of the head from peter?
If you have recieved both, im sure youll pick the headbutt

k,