B-Hop vs Winky.

[RP33]

I voted Hopkins Decision.

I think he has the brain to work winky out , and the craftiness and ring skills to execute whatever gameplan he wants.

I have £50 on him at 2/1

2/1 Where did you get those odds?

The best I can find is evens,

hah, me too.. i was thinking the same thing..
maybe they have already changed to even?

[Kev]

I voted Hopkins Decision.

I think he has the brain to work winky out , and the craftiness and ring skills to execute whatever gameplan he wants.

I have £50 on him at 2/1

2/1 Where did you get those odds?

The best I can find is evens,

hah, me too.. i was thinking the same thing..
maybe they have already changed to even?

Trust me if there was a bookies in the world that gave out odds like that Bilbo would be a member!

Well at least for the couple week period they were operational before they went bust

I can't seriously believe that any bookies at any time offered those odds, thats just insane.

Most bookies are around 10/11 for Hop and 8/11 Winky although I have seen Hop at 11/10 best price. But 2/1 nowhere even close that would be financial suicide for any bookie to have those odds.

[Mayweatherpfp]

b-hop by decision will be real close but i like b-hop more than winky so i'm rooting for him

[Poom]

I voted Hopkins Decision.

I think he has the brain to work winky out , and the craftiness and ring skills to execute whatever gameplan he wants.

I have £50 on him at 2/1

2/1 Where did you get those odds?

The best I can find is evens,

Bilbo i don't really understand odds very well,
but i know that
i put £50 on http://www.bet365.com/ so ill get 100 back total if i win (that includes my £50 bet) , so that is evens right ?

I only understand the decimal odds and i put mine on at 2.0.


And just to add something to the thread, if you haven;t checked it yet, I have put countdown to this fight in other section btw.

[Kev]

I voted Hopkins Decision.

I think he has the brain to work winky out , and the craftiness and ring skills to execute whatever gameplan he wants.

I have £50 on him at 2/1

2/1 Where did you get those odds?

The best I can find is evens,

Bilbo i don't really understand odds very well,
but i know that
i put £50 on http://www.bet365.com/ so ill get 100 back total if i win (that includes my £50 bet) , so that is evens right ?

I only understand the decimal odds and i put mine on at 2.0.


And just to add something to the thread, if you haven;t checked it yet, I have put countdown to this fight in other section btw.

Hey Poom, yeah that's even or in fractional terms 1/1. If you were getting 2/1 odds you'd make £100 profit plus another £50 stake return so £150 total.

As I said a bookie that offered 2/1 on Hopkins would not last in the business very long.

You'll find that virtually all bookies are offering odds on for both fighters 10/11 in Hop's case or around 8/11 for Winky who is the slight favourite.

Those kind odds basically means if it was a vote Hop would get about 55% and Winky about 60%. Obviously 60 + 55 adds up to more than 100% and would be mathematically impossible which shows you how the bookies always put things in their favour. Whoever winst the bookies won't lose.

[Poom]

I voted Hopkins Decision.

I think he has the brain to work winky out , and the craftiness and ring skills to execute whatever gameplan he wants.

I have £50 on him at 2/1

2/1 Where did you get those odds?

The best I can find is evens,

Bilbo i don't really understand odds very well,
but i know that
i put £50 on http://www.bet365.com/ so ill get 100 back total if i win (that includes my £50 bet) , so that is evens right ?

I only understand the decimal odds and i put mine on at 2.0.


And just to add something to the thread, if you haven;t checked it yet, I have put countdown to this fight in other section btw.

Hey Poom, yeah that's even or in fractional terms 1/1. If you were getting 2/1 odds you'd make £100 profit plus another £50 stake return so £150 total.

As I said a bookie that offered 2/1 on Hopkins would not last in the business very long.

You'll find that virtually all bookies are offering odds on for both fighters 10/11 in Hop's case or around 8/11 for Winky who is the slight favourite.

Those kind odds basically means if it was a vote Hop would get about 55% and Winky about 60%. Obviously 60 + 55 adds up to more than 100% and would be mathematically impossible which shows you how the bookies always put things in their favour. Whoever winst the bookies won't lose.

ah ok cheers, sorry if i got your hopes up

i get it now, & bet365 has a 2.1 on Hopkins which is not bad atm, already placed my bet though.

[Kev]

I voted Hopkins Decision.

I think he has the brain to work winky out , and the craftiness and ring skills to execute whatever gameplan he wants.

I have £50 on him at 2/1

2/1 Where did you get those odds?

The best I can find is evens,

Bilbo i don't really understand odds very well,
but i know that
i put £50 on http://www.bet365.com/ so ill get 100 back total if i win (that includes my £50 bet) , so that is evens right ?

I only understand the decimal odds and i put mine on at 2.0.


And just to add something to the thread, if you haven;t checked it yet, I have put countdown to this fight in other section btw.

Hey Poom, yeah that's even or in fractional terms 1/1. If you were getting 2/1 odds you'd make £100 profit plus another £50 stake return so £150 total.

As I said a bookie that offered 2/1 on Hopkins would not last in the business very long.

You'll find that virtually all bookies are offering odds on for both fighters 10/11 in Hop's case or around 8/11 for Winky who is the slight favourite.

Those kind odds basically means if it was a vote Hop would get about 55% and Winky about 60%. Obviously 60 + 55 adds up to more than 100% and would be mathematically impossible which shows you how the bookies always put things in their favour. Whoever winst the bookies won't lose.

ah ok cheers, sorry if i got your hopes up

i get it now, & bet365 has a 2.1 on Hopkins which is not bad atm, already placed my bet though.

Yeah 2 is dead even in decimal so anything over 2 means he's the slight outsider.

[No Contest]

I'm picking B-Hop by k.o. he is gonna bully Winky at this weight. Winky looked out of shape in the recent countdown special. Hopkins is also working with Freddie Roach who is good at rough house fighting, throw in all Hopkins tricks and I'm sure they'll cook something up. I dont know I just dont think Winky can jab his way to a win against Hopkins, very interested to see if Winky's shell of a defense can be cracked.

[silent assassin]

25 votes B-HOP. 28 votes Winky. 2 votes draw.

Down the stretch it's lookin to be a close call on the Saddo forum.

[Kev]

25 votes B-HOP. 28 votes Winky. 2 votes draw.

Down the stretch it's lookin to be a close call on the Saddo forum.

I'd say this fight is about as close as you can possibly get to a pick'em fight. Really there is nothing seperating these two.

It's virtually a certainty to go to the cards, and equally certain that whoever loses will have at least half of the media and saddo forum members feeling he should have won.

[silent assassin]

25 votes B-HOP. 28 votes Winky. 2 votes draw.

Down the stretch it's lookin to be a close call on the Saddo forum.

I'd say this fight is about as close as you can possibly get to a pick'em fight. Really there is nothing seperating these two.

It's virtually a certainty to go to the cards, and equally certain that whoever loses will have at least half of the media and saddo forum members feeling he should have won.

That sounds about right to me.

I picked Hop. I doubted Winky's stregnth when he moved up to fight Taylor. He proved me wrong. But even though B-Hop is the older guy I really think that the 170lb catchweight is the equalizer that plays big into his favor. I may have had to think on it some more if this was a 160lbs.

IMO, At this point of their fighting careers 170 is great for Hop. Not so great for Winky yesterday, today, or tomorrow. But like I said, he has proved me wrong before. We will soon see.

[bzkfn]

Wright is possibly the best defensive fighter I've seen. I can't see B-Hop forcing enough of the action to land clean shots. I say one judge has it a draw, and Winky takes a close majority decision on the other two cards.

[OumaFan]

Lately I've started leaning towards Hopkins.

Interesting fight, very hard to call. I mean, Winky's got probably the best jab in boxing, but who's better at taking away a jab than Hopkins?

[superheavyrhun]

I must confess I'm finding it hard to get excited about this one, I know they're two of the biggest names in the sport and both in the p4p lists, but I just can't see it being exciting in the same way as some of the other p4p fighters can be.

[Gandalf]

Lately I've started leaning towards Hopkins.

Interesting fight, very hard to call. I mean, Winky's got probably the best jab in boxing, but who's better at taking away a jab than Hopkins?

Ive been going the same way. I want Hopkins to retire but at this weight he really does play the cards.

Its an oddball fight though