What is your opinion of Joe Calzaghe?

[Preme]

The thing about opposition is.........who did B-HOP or RJJ really fight that was in their prime?

You can pick holes in any record - but admitedly Warren has not always done a grat job for him (apart from Lacy & Kessler fights)

BIG H can i tell you something now not alot of fighters beat great fighters in there prime there isn't that many that have but Jones beat Toney in his prime and he also beat Hopkins and Hill all 3 of those guys will probably be in hall of fame ok so maybe they wern't quite in there prime but there still great wins and he also beat other good fighters like.

Montel Griffin
Eric Harding
Clinton Woods
Reggie Johnson
Vinny Pazienza
Julio Cesar Gonzalez
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Virgil Hill


Compare that to Calzaghes best wins

Byron Mitchell
Charles Brewer
Richie Woodhall
Mario Veit
Omar Sheika
Robin Reid
Chris Eubank Weight drained and past it

lol jones beat toney and hopkins in thier prime... hopkins and roy were green as hell and toney was weight drained to shit...

[ICB]

The thing about opposition is.........who did B-HOP or RJJ really fight that was in their prime?

You can pick holes in any record - but admitedly Warren has not always done a grat job for him (apart from Lacy & Kessler fights)

BIG H can i tell you something now not alot of fighters beat great fighters in there prime there isn't that many that have but Jones beat Toney in his prime and he also beat Hopkins and Hill all 3 of those guys will probably be in hall of fame ok so maybe they wern't quite in there prime but there still great wins and he also beat other good fighters like.

Montel Griffin
Eric Harding
Clinton Woods
Reggie Johnson
Vinny Pazienza
Julio Cesar Gonzalez
James Toney
Bernard Hopkins
Virgil Hill


Compare that to Calzaghes best wins

Byron Mitchell
Charles Brewer
Richie Woodhall
Mario Veit
Omar Sheika
Robin Reid
Chris Eubank Weight drained and past it

lol jones beat toney and hopkins in thier prime... hopkins and roy were green as hell and toney was weight drained to S***...

I just said Hopkins wern't in his prime read what i said and forgetting if Toney was weight drained he didn't have like 12 days to get into shape plus Roy Jones was moving up and James Toney was in his prime Toney was the man at that weight and Jones shut him out and Hill Toney Hopkins will probably be in hall of fame yes Hopkins hadn't quite peaked yet but it was still great win and so was Toney and Hill victorys.

[Elviz]

Joe is definately a world class fighter. Im not a huge Calzaghe fan, but he is without a doubt in the top 10 P4P.

Even though Cal is world class I dont think people should talk about the Kessler fight like Cal allrdy won it.... I personal think its going helluvafight and its going to be a very close.

Could it be possible to write "if Cal beats Kess" instead of "when Cal beats Kess"
Statements like that makes some of you guys seem very arrogant just like alot of the wimps on eastside...

Thx

[gyrokai]

He's world class, who has a chance to make it to all-time p4p status, he just needs to make compromises in his future contractual deals.

[superheavyrhun]

Joe is definately a world class fighter. Im not a huge Calzaghe fan, but he is without a doubt in the top 10 P4P.

Even though Cal is world class I dont think people should talk about the Kessler fight like Cal allrdy won it.... I personal think its going helluvafight and its going to be a very close.

Could it be possible to write "if Cal beats Kess" instead of "when Cal beats Kess"
Statements like that makes some of you guys seem very arrogant just like alot of the wimps on eastside...

Thx

Hey man, I think that as on every forum there are a percentage of people who think that either fighter will beat the other fighter easily, so they're just doing it to emphasise a point, and it isn't necassarily just Calzaghe fans either.

Anyhow, it looks as though the majority of people on the poll have Calzaghe as a world class fighter, but not quite making it into the p4p great status, which he is obviously aiming for. And not too many people calling him a bum either, which is just an option I put in to have the full spectrum of options there.

[SEANIE]

is this gonna be a no sadclick thread then

i'm not a huge fan of Calzaghe but not because of his boxing ability
He's been seriously let down imo by Warren
completly agree with u master he should have been rich and famous but he isn't
it has been a waste
and u have to ask if now it's too late
with his hand breaking during most fights now how long can he realistically carry on

he deserved more as a fighter and didnt get it

the onli reason im not a fan is the showboating during the Lacy fight
it just put me off
in a way i guess he had a right to act in that manner but it just ruins things for me personally
although i realise that isnt everybodys opinion

I agree he was let down bigtime by Warren. I remember when Mickey Duff was on the scene and along came Warren to muscle in. I think once Duff retired Warren became complacent and started dealing with jarg sanctioning bodies. its a shame calzaghe never had a manager like Duff throught his career. Duff was class Warren couldnt even carry Duffs jockstrap.

[leftylee]

Ovverated hu has fought no one good I mean why's he fighting contender bums at this day in age?

[BIG H]

Ovverated hu has fought no one good I mean why's he fighting contender bums at this day in age?

[leftylee]

Ye so u think Calzaghe's a pound for pound man then who beat Lacy and Eubank over 12 hu couldn't ko them and there his 2 biggest opponents where as Hatton ko'd Kosta and Castillo

He only knocks out bums Calzaghe. The most ovverated british boxer ever!!

[SEANIE]

Ovverated hu has fought no one good I mean why's he fighting contender bums at this day in age?

because all this fucking reality tv is making stars of untalented people and naive people who know fuck all about boxing think these no mark boxers are great just because theyve been on tv and plus they pull in good ratings. higher ratings more advertising cash.

[BIG H]

Ye so u think Calzaghe's a pound for pound man then who beat Lacy and Eubank over 12 hu couldn't ko them and there his 2 biggest opponents where as Hatton ko'd Kosta and Castillo

He only knocks out bums Calzaghe. The most ovverated british boxer ever!!

Pernell Whitaker didn't knock many people out - was he crap too


Jc's hands are fooked - you try knocking someone out with a broken hand

[leftylee]

He actually didn't KO Manfredo it was stopped by a poor decision!

[Fenster]

Its time for the taxi when you regard not being able to KO Eubank as some sort of failing.

[BubbleBox]

Calzaghe is a great fighter who hasn't proven himself! He fought bums up until Lacy and destroyed the next big thing. That was simply a lesson in boxing!!! He fought an extremely tricky Bika, who used his head constantly and would've given anyone trouble fighting that way and then fought another bum (to get publicity) in Manfredo!!

So we know he has got talent and now he has 4 fights to prove it!! If he beats Kessler he has beaten the only other worthy fighter at SMW (sorry Froch, you came too late). He has said that will be his last fight at SMW - I doubt that, I think there will be a fight with Taylor at SMW first. Then the winner of Winky and B-Hop and then I think a step up and fight Dawson (the best at LHW) and then you have yourself a HOF.

Calzaghe is a quality fighter who now has to put his money where his mouth is. And leave the valleys to do so!

[leftylee]

Well said BubbleBox thats when Joe Calzaghe should get respect