Fighters You Think Who Took A Dive

[ICB]

Mike Tyson vs Trevor Berbick



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqRac3vADY




Muhammad Ali vs Sonny Liston



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzWynvBLJ4I

[Punisher136]

You would post both fights in their entrity ice.. :P

From memory tho, I can assure you they looka mazingly similar and berbick and liston react in similar ways. Don't blame walcott for being alittle off at refereeing, thats marciano's fault.

[donnydarkoIRL]

You would post both fights in their entrity ice.. :P

From memory tho, I can assure you they looka mazingly similar and berbick and liston react in similar ways. Don't blame walcott for being alittle off at refereeing, thats marciano's fault.

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[cpcompany]

Bruce Seldon V Tyson.

Seldon was absolutely shitting himself, he couldnt wait to get out of that fight. I think the average bloke on the street might have had a decent chance of staying up from the punches that put Seldon down. Seldon should have had his purse taken and been strung up by the balls for that "performance"

[donnydarkoIRL]

Bruce Seldon V Tyson.

Seldon was absolutely shitting himself, he couldnt wait to get out of that fight. I think the average bloke on the street might have had a decent chance of staying up from the punches that put Seldon down. Seldon should have had his purse taken and been strung up by the balls for that "performance"

As were all Tyson opponents really, Peter McNeely still sickens me.

[Beanflicker]

He fell like he stumbled over his feet, then a few seconds later he acted like "he got shot with a cannon" (to quote Chuvalo).

I know it was ridiculous the way he was stubbling around it was very bad acting on Liston's part.

Ali did better against liston than holmes would've..........

Probably but Holmes would of still beat Liston no question i remember Holmes beating up on Ali in there sparring match before Rumble In The Jungle

Which again was nothing more than holmes beating up on a past-it ali.

Ali didn't steal a win against doug jones, we already established that. Henry cooper couldn't beat ali and ali proved it was a fluke in the rematch by beating him by way of cut without "unpadded gloves and smelling salts". If the first liston fight was rigged, liston wouldn't have been trying so hard for the knockout in round 4 (or 5) when ali had trouble seeing. Liston never once had ali in trouble except for when he couldn't see in their first fight. He knocked out ron lyle (who was ahead at the time on the score cards) and it wasn't a bad or fixed stoppage. There is no controversy with ali inside the ring, he beat everybody he beat and if someone took a dive against him, all they did was save themselves from the embarrasment that would've happened later in the fight anyway. Next.......

I didn't say first Liston fight was fixed but i believe Liston took a dive in 2nd fight but thats my opinion you know what my favorite Ali fight is ?? the one with Clevand Williams he was like poetry in motion that night infact im watching it again now his movement reflexes were so damn good i think that version of Ali would of beaten prime Tyson like a bad habit.

Watch the tyson-berbick knockdown. It looks exactly the same. It doesn't even look like tyson connects (it looks like he just grazes his head) and then a few second later berbick drops to the ground. Yet no one EVER calls that knockdown into question...... Trust me it doesn't even look like tyson connects good and berbicks movements are exactly the same as listons.

Thats rediculous man, you can see the punch land on Berbick's temple. He just had his eqilibrium (sp?) thrown off. If it was a work, and he was taking a dive, why would he intentionally make himself look like an idiot? People still laugh when they see him stumbling around the ring like a drunk

[Beanflicker]

Bruce Seldon V Tyson.

Seldon was absolutely shitting himself, he couldnt wait to get out of that fight. I think the average bloke on the street might have had a decent chance of staying up from the punches that put Seldon down. Seldon should have had his purse taken and been strung up by the balls for that "performance"

As were all Tyson opponents really, Peter McNeely still sickens me.

It was a bad stoppage, if they let the fight go on longer McNeely would have gotten the chance to wrap Tyson in his cocoon of horror.

Seriously, Mcneely may be the worse boxer on the mic ever!

[Wayne]

McNeeley? Are you serious? Tyson picked him up with an uppercut. And remember, McNeeley was on his feet when his corner stopped it. He was getting hammered. It may have been the biggest payday of his career, but imagine how he would have skyrocketed up the rankings had he beaten Tyson. The fact of it is he just wasn't up for the job. He had a decent record, in fact, was much too good on paper for Tyson to be fighting him straight out of the box. Tyson should have taken on a lesser opponent, but wanted to make a statement.

[ICB]

McNeeley? Are you serious? Tyson picked him up with an uppercut. And remember, McNeeley was on his feet when his corner stopped it. He was getting hammered. It may have been the biggest payday of his career, but imagine how he would have skyrocketed up the rankings had he beaten Tyson. The fact of it is he just wasn't up for the job. He had a decent record, in fact, was much too good on paper for Tyson to be fighting him straight out of the box. Tyson should have taken on a lesser opponent, but wanted to make a statement.

Tyson should have taken a lesser opponent ?? McNeely was the easist opponent for Tyson the only reason McNeely had a good record is because he fought all cab drivers hell McNeely even got TKO in 1 round by Butterbean that right there says it all.

[Wayne]

What I'm saying is McNeeley had a good-looking record, not that he himself was really good. Obviously, he wasn't. But there were certainly other people, even easier ones, that they could have picked without complaint. Don't get the interpretation I mean McNeeley is a good fighter.

[El Gamo]

I've seen it mentioned and I'll say it again,I think Oscar took a dive v B Hop. 2 main reasons:

1.) bodyshots hurt,liver shots kill BUT,has anyone gone down like Oscar before? I've seen Miranda drop someone,Arcev Rojas,Penelosa v Gonzalez AND Hatton v Castillo all in the last 4-5 months,and NOT ONE of them rected like Oscar. They all drop down,look winded and stay there for a while.

2.)B Hop didn't even get that much leverage into the shot! I mean come on,it looked like a tap and also,the aforementioned guys stay on the canvas for a while,look winded. 1 minute Oscar is rolling around like he's been shot,not winded and then,after the count is over,he somehow manages to muster the energy to bang the canvas HARD. I've been winded,I've seen fighters winded,it takes EVERYTHING out of you,you don't have the energy to do ANYTHING at all!

Thats just an opinion,I'm not 100% sure but certainly is that doubt there.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I think there atre two possible answers to that
1)Oscar did take a dive
or
2) He went down easy saw that the fight had slipped from him and just didnt bother get up for more

[BoxingGorilla]

I heard a rumor that he was having stomach issues....maybe he just didnt want to poop his pants on national T.V.

LOL

[BoxingGorilla]

Tyson took a dive against Green and McBride. Sadly, he did it of his own accord.

[porkypara]

De la Hoya against Hopkins

You have never taken a good body punch I take it?