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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Calzaghe UD...

    I thought this could be a very close fight up untill today, Then i went to watch Joe train in his gym.

    He is in, without a doubt THE BEST shape he has ever been in. He already has wicked abs on him, is speed is crazy, i mean i was just a few feet away from him watching him work the speed ball and it was crazy. His timing looks spot on. He isn't at his peak, but he looks alot younger than 35 put it that way. If kessler wins then fair fucking play to him, 'coz i was honestly shocked at how sharp and how focused Joe was today.

    With all that said, this is still going to be one HELL if a tough fight, kessler is a very good boxer and is hungry as hell, he beleievs he can win, he would not of come to wales for the fight otherwise.

    Ud for Joe in a tough hard fought, but comfertable win.

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    I'm gonna call a close decision for Calzaghe in an extremely boring fight. I just do not see them two mending in an exciting fight for some reason. I picture Kessler walking towards Calzaghe all night long while landing occasional shots, Calzaghe lunging in, pitty pat flurrying and then tying Kessler up.

    I want to get up for this fight, but have an uneasy feeling that this fight is gonna be like a double dose of nyquil. Kessler is controlled enough to not get wild and opening himself up and make Calzaghe look good, and Calzaghe will do everything in his power to prevent Kessler from settling into the fight.


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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Gonna be a points decision for calzaghe i reckon. Although i admire kessler, i think it'll be a convincing win with joe performing to his best like the lacy fight

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Just thought I'd share this info. so that we can compare other polls that are taking place.
    These results are as of today about 3 minutes ago.

    The RingMag.com

    How will the Joe Calzaghe vs. Mikkel Kessler fight end?
    1335 votes

    1 Calzaghe by kayo >> 16.0 % 214 votes
    2 Kessler by kayo >>>>>>>>>>>22.7 % 304 votes
    3 Calzaghe by decision >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 43.4 % 580 votes
    4 Kessler by decision >>> 16.2 % 217 votes
    5 Draw > 1.4 % 20 votes




    Fightnews Poll
    Who will win the superfight between Joe Calzaghe and Mikkel Kessler?


    Calzaghe by KO >>>>>21%
    Calzaghe decision >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>39%
    Kessler KO >>>>>>>>>>28%
    Kessler decision >>12%


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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Joe by decision seems to be the leading vote in all 3 polls.

    I hope Joe doesn't start dancing around the ring and get's on a bike. That would really disappoint me

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Joe by decision seems to be the leading vote in all 3 polls.

    I hope Joe doesn't start dancing around the ring and get's on a bike. That would really disappoint me
    I don't think he'll get on his bike as you say, but neither is he going to go and stand squarely in front of Kessler and trade until someone falls over. I think Calzaghe will go in and out lightning quick and pick Kessler off before getting out again. However, if he is well ahead and doing very well going into the last few rounds, I think he might get a rush of blood to the head and his ego will force him to try and KO Kessler, which could make for a tense finish.

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    If Mikkel starts with a real jab and keeps using it, he will win. I can see him trying to KO Joe though and abandoning it. Then Joe will win.

    If it turns into a sloppy fight, it is Joe's territory. It is funny, a good Jab would beat Joe down, but Joe fights in a way that it appears he is leaving himself wide open, his opponents get suckered then start winging for a knockout and Joe counters them.

    I see huge limitations in both of them. Kessler reaches with the Jab and is begging to get nailed over top with a right hand, and Calzaghe is begging to get nailed with Jabs and punches down the pipe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Joe by decision seems to be the leading vote in all 3 polls.

    I hope Joe doesn't start dancing around the ring and get's on a bike. That would really disappoint me
    mate i can promise you one thing (even tho i would be more than happy to see joe do it) calzaghe will never dance and fight on his bike...

    Kessler as you ur self said is flat fotted, and Joe if he moved with his foot work with make kessler look silly.

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    I was up newbirdge this saturday - you often hear boxers or wrtiers say about fighters in their best shape... i swear down, Calzaghe is in te best shape he has eveyr been i, imean this guy has neevr been one to sport a 6 pac untill he drained down to the weigh in, he has abs now anyone would be proud of.. newbrdige is a very small gym, anyone who has seen ti will know what i mean, but if you havnt you would piss your sellf laughgin as you would never exppect anyone to train in this let alone 3 world champions...


    but i stood back just covering the fight - but you had to see it, joe worked the bas 2 feet in front of me, moved around, passing me with a polite smile, humble as fuck... i swear i have never seen so much focuse in my life... i have said on here that kessler could win because joe is this and that... i take it all back now, if kessler wins then he is the fucking shit... Joe is 95% as good as he has ever been, no question he is in the best shape EVER, speed everything.. the only thign is the loss of power with hand trouble...

    guys honestly i cant totaly explain it, i was standing back just watching on as he passed me from from his shadow boxing work to work the pads, he give me a polite smile but the eys, with a split seconed you could see that in the eyes there was nothing but 100% focus, i mean shit iw as scared to say anything - it was that stone cold look, the one to strike fear in you...

    sure alot fo you are thining "yeah poor welsh boy going on about his hero" but there was a stone cold dead look in there...

    i said all along this will be a tought and close, i still maintain it will be tough, close, no Joewill win without to much trouble...

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Kessler by knock out rond 8th.

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Joe by decision seems to be the leading vote in all 3 polls.

    I hope Joe doesn't start dancing around the ring and get's on a bike. That would really disappoint me
    I don't think he'll get on his bike as you say, but neither is he going to go and stand squarely in front of Kessler and trade until someone falls over. I think Calzaghe will go in and out lightning quick and pick Kessler off before getting out again. However, if he is well ahead and doing very well going into the last few rounds, I think he might get a rush of blood to the head and his ego will force him to try and KO Kessler, which could make for a tense finish.
    Getting on his bike?

    Doubtful.

    The thing about Calzaghe that befuddles pretty much everyone that's ever climbed through the ropes & into the squared circle with him is the fact that he produces so many angles so quickly in such a small space...& that's the other factor...he turns the entire ring into a phone booth...& that's coming forward or allowing himself to be pushed onto the backfoot.

    Joe's volume is going to be the key in this bout...that & Kessler's jab...but I don't think we'll see a lot of that infamous Kessler jab.

    He's gonna have to create some serious distance to get his jab working against Joe. While both men have fought some tuff customers...they have solved the puzzles...but splitting hairs...comparing opposition...that's just silly. In Kessler's favor...comparing Joe to Siaca, Mundine, Beyer, or even Andrade is almost as ridiculous as comparing Kessler to Manfredo, Bika, Mkrtchian, or even Lacy. It sounds fun & almost holds a bit of water...but the pool's just not deep enough on either side to induldge a sink or swin option.

    Sounding like a broken record at me own expense...neither man has faced the capabilities of the other.

    So many variables can spin this fight on it's ear...& that's what makes this one of the most "high-noon" scenarios between the hunter & the hunted...the young lion bumping the old king from the pride. I want answers...prior to the bout!!! You got Joe's speed vs Kessler's power, Joe's experience vs Kessler's lack there of, Joe's angles vs Kessler's jab, & last but not least...Joe's age (which I might add has yet to show 'cept for the mitts) vs Kessler's youth.

    Everyone wants to count Joe out...& those that don't agree with Calzaghe's chances or the fact that he is a champion, world class A+ fighter, & his name being tossed around as one of the best in the world are labled maliciously as being a smoke screen by his detractors.

    All will be proven on Saturday night...& if Joe were to falter...this is one fan that will not win & cry. I will take my lumps as a Calzaghe fan & I will appalaude the other man in the ring...the true Unified World Champion of 168lbs & I will cheer for him sincerely...because from day one I have been on the Kessler boat...but with doubts...& he has don't nothing more than prove me wrong in my doubts.

    Here is the one time that I want him to slide a bit.

    Wacko wants a draw. Then a rematch with a Kessler win...then a rematch with a Calzaghe win.

    That would be glorious. Of all the bouts that are coming up...I have to admit...being an American boxing fan...Calzaghe vs Kessler is the FOTY for me...& it could suck balls & I would still rate it based on the fact that both men are top notch in my book & both men are gentlemen.

    We need more of these in boxing.

    Much respect to them both.
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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Joe by decision seems to be the leading vote in all 3 polls.

    I hope Joe doesn't start dancing around the ring and get's on a bike. That would really disappoint me
    I don't think he'll get on his bike as you say, but neither is he going to go and stand squarely in front of Kessler and trade until someone falls over. I think Calzaghe will go in and out lightning quick and pick Kessler off before getting out again. However, if he is well ahead and doing very well going into the last few rounds, I think he might get a rush of blood to the head and his ego will force him to try and KO Kessler, which could make for a tense finish.
    Getting on his bike?

    Doubtful.

    The thing about Calzaghe that befuddles pretty much everyone that's ever climbed through the ropes & into the squared circle with him is the fact that he produces so many angles so quickly in such a small space...& that's the other factor...he turns the entire ring into a phone booth...& that's coming forward or allowing himself to be pushed onto the backfoot.

    Joe's volume is going to be the key in this bout...that & Kessler's jab...but I don't think we'll see a lot of that infamous Kessler jab.

    He's gonna have to create some serious distance to get his jab working against Joe. While both men have fought some tuff customers...they have solved the puzzles...but splitting hairs...comparing opposition...that's just silly. In Kessler's favor...comparing Joe to Siaca, Mundine, Beyer, or even Andrade is almost as ridiculous as comparing Kessler to Manfredo, Bika, Mkrtchian, or even Lacy. It sounds fun & almost holds a bit of water...but the pool's just not deep enough on either side to induldge a sink or swin option.

    Sounding like a broken record at me own expense...neither man has faced the capabilities of the other.

    So many variables can spin this fight on it's ear...& that's what makes this one of the most "high-noon" scenarios between the hunter & the hunted...the young lion bumping the old king from the pride. I want answers...prior to the bout!!! You got Joe's speed vs Kessler's power, Joe's experience vs Kessler's lack there of, Joe's angles vs Kessler's jab, & last but not least...Joe's age (which I might add has yet to show 'cept for the mitts) vs Kessler's youth.

    Everyone wants to count Joe out...& those that don't agree with Calzaghe's chances or the fact that he is a champion, world class A+ fighter, & his name being tossed around as one of the best in the world are labled maliciously as being a smoke screen by his detractors.

    All will be proven on Saturday night...& if Joe were to falter...this is one fan that will not win & cry. I will take my lumps as a Calzaghe fan & I will appalaude the other man in the ring...the true Unified World Champion of 168lbs & I will cheer for him sincerely...because from day one I have been on the Kessler boat...but with doubts...& he has don't nothing more than prove me wrong in my doubts.

    Here is the one time that I want him to slide a bit.

    Wacko wants a draw. Then a rematch with a Kessler win...then a rematch with a Calzaghe win.

    That would be glorious. Of all the bouts that are coming up...I have to admit...being an American boxing fan...Calzaghe vs Kessler is the FOTY for me...& it could suck balls & I would still rate it based on the fact that both men are top notch in my book & both men are gentlemen.

    We need more of these in boxing.

    Much respect to them both.
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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    One thing I've been thinking of as this fight gets closer, Kessler's got a great jab, but Joe's a southpaw and that could make it difficult for Kessler to establish his jab effectively.
    The closer this fight gets, the more I think that its Calzaghe's fight to lose, he's so unorthodox and quick, I don't Kessler has ever fought anyone remotely comparable to Calzaghe.

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Any word on how many tickets have been sold? Last thing I read was about a month ago, when they had sold about 30,000.
    I've read over 40,000 last Friday...the time of the fight, 2:00 a.m. local time, and the weak undercard is supposed to be slowing down ticket sales....

    but tickets are suppose to pick up during the week....

    its hard to say if they will hit 60,000, but i would be suprised if the match doesnt sell more than 50-55,000....

    i am really split on this fight... i really dont have a favorite for this fight, it seems very even...

    but i do believe they will give there all, and both realizes how important for their careers and legacies to not only win, but to win impressively ...

    THIS WILL BE A WAR

    calzaghe is not that much faster than kessler (kessler has very fast, accurate combos) and kessler is not that much more powerful than calzaghe(calzaghe has as high of KO% as kess as well as other powerful punchers) as all will see this saturday/sunday


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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    befuddles
    Great word Wack-man. Fantastic. Between that and bamboozling, I don't think Kessler has a chance.

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    Default Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds : Calzaghe vs Kessler

    Quote Originally Posted by Preme
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Joe by decision seems to be the leading vote in all 3 polls.

    I hope Joe doesn't start dancing around the ring and get's on a bike. That would really disappoint me
    mate i can promise you one thing (even tho i would be more than happy to see joe do it) calzaghe will never dance and fight on his bike...

    Kessler as you ur self said is flat fotted, and Joe if he moved with his foot work with make kessler look silly.

    ---------

    I was up newbirdge this saturday - you often hear boxers or wrtiers say about fighters in their best shape... i swear down, Calzaghe is in te best shape he has eveyr been i, imean this guy has neevr been one to sport a 6 pac untill he drained down to the weigh in, he has abs now anyone would be proud of.. newbrdige is a very small gym, anyone who has seen ti will know what i mean, but if you havnt you would piss your sellf laughgin as you would never exppect anyone to train in this let alone 3 world champions...


    but i stood back just covering the fight - but you had to see it, joe worked the bas 2 feet in front of me, moved around, passing me with a polite smile, humble as F***... i swear i have never seen so much focuse in my life... i have said on here that kessler could win because joe is this and that... i take it all back now, if kessler wins then he is the F****** S***... Joe is 95% as good as he has ever been, no question he is in the best shape EVER, speed everything.. the only thign is the loss of power with hand trouble...

    guys honestly i cant totaly explain it, i was standing back just watching on as he passed me from from his shadow boxing work to work the pads, he give me a polite smile but the eys, with a split seconed you could see that in the eyes there was nothing but 100% focus, i mean S*** iw as scared to say anything - it was that stone cold look, the one to strike fear in you...

    sure alot fo you are thining "yeah poor welsh boy going on about his hero" but there was a stone cold dead look in there...

    i said all along this will be a tought and close, i still maintain it will be tough, close, no Joewill win without to much trouble...
    Just curious, have you seen him training prior to other fights before for comparison?

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