is HOPKINS really that great ?

[Spicoli]

Two clowns for the price of one

Dude, what happened to your name? ICE COLD BOXING was awesome

Wanted a change bit sick of ICB

ICB,didnt know it was you.I think I owe you a CC from that "other" thread concerning a certain departure...Non Departure?

[ICB]

Two clowns for the price of one

Dude, what happened to your name? ICE COLD BOXING was awesome

Wanted a change bit sick of ICB

ICB,didnt know it was you.I think I owe you a CC from that "other" thread concerning a certain departure...Non Departure?

Didn't understand your last comment bro.

[Spicoli]

Two clowns for the price of one

Dude, what happened to your name? ICE COLD BOXING was awesome

Wanted a change bit sick of ICB

ICB,didnt know it was you.I think I owe you a CC from that "other" thread concerning a certain departure...Non Departure?

Didn't understand your last comment bro.

Means I didnt know u Changed your name.
You through a CC my way A day ago in the Wack's leavin thread,I returned It today.

[ICB]

Two clowns for the price of one

Dude, what happened to your name? ICE COLD BOXING was awesome

Wanted a change bit sick of ICB

ICB,didnt know it was you.I think I owe you a CC from that "other" thread concerning a certain departure...Non Departure?

Didn't understand your last comment bro.

Means I didnt know u Changed your name.
You through a CC my way A day ago in the Wack's leavin thread,I returned It today.

Oh ok fair enough cc back.

[SKE9976]

he lost to a 1-handed RJJ clearly and watching that fight he didnt seem all that good, ROY was crap that night too, he was KD'd against MERCADO and should of lost, his one notable win the 90s was his destruction of GLEN JOHNSON but OMAR SHEIKA beat him up too !

KEITH HOLMES, WILLIAM JOPPY, HOWARD EASTMAN - if they were around in 1990 they would not have been top 20 !

TITO, OSCAR, WINKY all former welters, superfeathers or superwelters

i was reading something EUBANK said about STEVE COLLINS "STEVE COLLINS in my opinion was a very ordinary fighter, who had been around for yrs without achieving anything spectacular"

who does that sound like ?

think of TYSON'S KO'S, BENN'S KO'S, RJJ'S KO'S, CALZAGHE KD'ING EUBANK, EUBANK'S fights with BENN (1) and WATSON (2), HATTON on PENDLETON, or just think about any top name fighter and they achieved something spectacular early on

HOPKINS ? no

Hatton?, Eubanks?, Calzaghe? and Watson?
you must be jokin fam! Bernard acheived more than all those boxers you mentioned!!!

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Is BHop really that great?

hold on?

**looks around**

Is this guy serious?

look at the amount of time he held the title... He won the universally recognized LW title in his fourties in a great display... Not like Forman did in his fourties... Got slapped around all fight til he manuvered Moorer into his power hand... He did something Sugar Ray Robinson couldn't.

While you're at it you should say a guy like Paulie isn't going anywhere due to his KO percentage...

Bernard Hopkins is one of the best fighters of our era and some most would say one of the best of all time... So to pose the question(and answer it) "Is Bhop really that great?"

Is slightly rediculous...








I mean no disrespect but I just get heated when people ask this question...

Its like when people say that Marciano wasn't all that great cuz his oposition was old or not that great... He F**KING beat EVERYONE!

[DaxxKahn]

F****** hell you all know better dont ya? and anyone with a radically different opinion is either a "WANKER" or knows nothing about boxing...keep reading your Ring/KO magazine and believing you know it all...was I saying Mugabi was a yank, am I full of nationalistic crap when all we hear from you lot over there is how great your mediocre fighters are..look at what happened to jeff lacy after he was bigged up as the next big thing...? read my post properly..i've been following boxing for 25 years and have boxed amateur myself...I used to believe all that I read until I looked further into the hype that follows most boxers who have a good PR machine behind them a-la Hopkins..true he should be respected for coming from where he has and making his life a success but I would never describe him as a great, nowhere near, he could send a hyperactive kid to sleep when he fights...anyway nice to see that some of you can only respond to those with different views as you by resorting to expletives, name calling, questioning my own knowledge...maybe you should go on a forum for school kids...put your views across in an adult way if you can that is

Its not your "opinion" that brings a sharp response.We all have those,there similar to what is nestled in ones trousers,where the sun don't shine.It is not necessary to defie modern medicine and actually communicate through that part of your anatomy though.

As far as us,they,them,Yanks,Brits,You and the borderline histaria your spouting It overrides and overshadows any valid (?) points you might make.You obviously have an immense amount of prejudice as far as "us Yanks" and should do your self a great service by learning and realizing that boxing is in fact the most Internationally assorted and varied sport in existence and Its obvious that 90% of the fans on this forum judge and follow fighters on there merits,accomplishments and personal preferences.......Not an up or down yeh or nay on were they were born or now reside,The colony's and the Kingdom across the pond have had there conflicts and battles,stick to boxing My man.

You state You have followed boxing for twenty five years.I have no clue how old you are,But maybe you should not throw stones in a glass house when it comes to name calling and Expletives as well as closed minded Judgements.There are no "school Kids" here (except Bruce ) just some pretty ardent and dedicated fans that take time to analyse the sport and Listen to reason from fellow posters.

Point of fact,I believe Hatton will defeat FMJ but that "Gayweather" crap is just plain dumb.

Hopkins ,Up until The Tito fight had little to no "hype Machine" and alot of what he did have was Negative .......alot by his own bad management decisions,His "boring" style and being very stubborn and speaking out loud and clear on what he saw as bad in the boxing establishment,His points were often valid but they were lost in the harsh delivery and Rancour.Now he reaps the rewards as a shot-caller ...Like it or not!

Lastly,wipe your feet when you come into someones house Newbie.Get your elbows off the dinner table and show some much needed RESPECT.
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Damn!!! Never seen a guy swell up over an internet beat down......

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

F****** hell you all know better dont ya? and anyone with a radically different opinion is either a "WANKER" or knows nothing about boxing...keep reading your Ring/KO magazine and believing you know it all...was I saying Mugabi was a yank, am I full of nationalistic crap when all we hear from you lot over there is how great your mediocre fighters are..look at what happened to jeff lacy after he was bigged up as the next big thing...? read my post properly..i've been following boxing for 25 years and have boxed amateur myself...I used to believe all that I read until I looked further into the hype that follows most boxers who have a good PR machine behind them a-la Hopkins..true he should be respected for coming from where he has and making his life a success but I would never describe him as a great, nowhere near, he could send a hyperactive kid to sleep when he fights...anyway nice to see that some of you can only respond to those with different views as you by resorting to expletives, name calling, questioning my own knowledge...maybe you should go on a forum for school kids...put your views across in an adult way if you can that is

Its not your "opinion" that brings a sharp response.We all have those,there similar to what is nestled in ones trousers,where the sun don't shine.It is not necessary to defie modern medicine and actually communicate through that part of your anatomy though.

As far as us,they,them,Yanks,Brits,You and the borderline histaria your spouting It overrides and overshadows any valid (?) points you might make.You obviously have an immense amount of prejudice as far as "us Yanks" and should do your self a great service by learning and realizing that boxing is in fact the most Internationally assorted and varied sport in existence and Its obvious that 90% of the fans on this forum judge and follow fighters on there merits,accomplishments and personal preferences.......Not an up or down yeh or nay on were they were born or now reside,The colony's and the Kingdom across the pond have had there conflicts and battles,stick to boxing My man.

You state You have followed boxing for twenty five years.I have no clue how old you are,But maybe you should not throw stones in a glass house when it comes to name calling and Expletives as well as closed minded Judgements.There are no "school Kids" here (except Bruce ) just some pretty ardent and dedicated fans that take time to analyse the sport and Listen to reason from fellow posters.

Point of fact,I believe Hatton will defeat FMJ but that "Gayweather" crap is just plain dumb.

Hopkins ,Up until The Tito fight had little to no "hype Machine" and alot of what he did have was Negative .......alot by his own bad management decisions,His "boring" style and being very stubborn and speaking out loud and clear on what he saw as bad in the boxing establishment,His points were often valid but they were lost in the harsh delivery and Rancour.Now he reaps the rewards as a shot-caller ...Like it or not!

Lastly,wipe your feet when you come into someones house Newbie.Get your elbows off the dinner table and show some much needed RESPECT.
1st Attempt.....

WOW

[ICB]

F****** hell you all know better dont ya? and anyone with a radically different opinion is either a "WANKER" or knows nothing about boxing...keep reading your Ring/KO magazine and believing you know it all...was I saying Mugabi was a yank, am I full of nationalistic crap when all we hear from you lot over there is how great your mediocre fighters are..look at what happened to jeff lacy after he was bigged up as the next big thing...? read my post properly..i've been following boxing for 25 years and have boxed amateur myself...I used to believe all that I read until I looked further into the hype that follows most boxers who have a good PR machine behind them a-la Hopkins..true he should be respected for coming from where he has and making his life a success but I would never describe him as a great, nowhere near, he could send a hyperactive kid to sleep when he fights...anyway nice to see that some of you can only respond to those with different views as you by resorting to expletives, name calling, questioning my own knowledge...maybe you should go on a forum for school kids...put your views across in an adult way if you can that is

Its not your "opinion" that brings a sharp response.We all have those,there similar to what is nestled in ones trousers,where the sun don't shine.It is not necessary to defie modern medicine and actually communicate through that part of your anatomy though.

As far as us,they,them,Yanks,Brits,You and the borderline histaria your spouting It overrides and overshadows any valid (?) points you might make.You obviously have an immense amount of prejudice as far as "us Yanks" and should do your self a great service by learning and realizing that boxing is in fact the most Internationally assorted and varied sport in existence and Its obvious that 90% of the fans on this forum judge and follow fighters on there merits,accomplishments and personal preferences.......Not an up or down yeh or nay on were they were born or now reside,The colony's and the Kingdom across the pond have had there conflicts and battles,stick to boxing My man.

You state You have followed boxing for twenty five years.I have no clue how old you are,But maybe you should not throw stones in a glass house when it comes to name calling and Expletives as well as closed minded Judgements.There are no "school Kids" here (except Bruce ) just some pretty ardent and dedicated fans that take time to analyse the sport and Listen to reason from fellow posters.

Point of fact,I believe Hatton will defeat FMJ but that "Gayweather" crap is just plain dumb.

Hopkins ,Up until The Tito fight had little to no "hype Machine" and alot of what he did have was Negative .......alot by his own bad management decisions,His "boring" style and being very stubborn and speaking out loud and clear on what he saw as bad in the boxing establishment,His points were often valid but they were lost in the harsh delivery and Rancour.Now he reaps the rewards as a shot-caller ...Like it or not!

Lastly,wipe your feet when you come into someones house Newbie.Get your elbows off the dinner table and show some much needed RESPECT.
1st Attempt.....

Damn!!! Never seen a guy swell up over an internet beat down......

Now thats what i call a beat down you have learnt fast Jeff cc