Here's the Hopkins 'White Boy' incident

[Trainer Monkey]

1st of all its completely assanined and ignorant for a 43 year old man to call another man at 36 years old a "White Boy"

Please anyone who dosent take that statement for what it implies RACIAL SUPERIORITY needs to wisen up.... It was in poor taste plain and simple. Hopkins was a douchebag in making that remark END OF!!!! like someone else said if Calzaghe said "I aint lettin no Black Man beat be" the whole place would of errupted Jesse Jackson would have been flow in with Al Sharpton and they would have picketed the gotdam arena. They would have demanded an apology and Calzaghe would have had to have a press conference to save face... Meanwhile Dikhead Hopkins runs off at the mouth and he gets a gatepass, to hell with that I hate racism no matter who is prompting it, but the recourse should be equal as well as the public outrage.

I just don't understand how you can claim Hopkins is a racist and believes in the superiority of the black race as if its the same as when the whites actually practised their superiority over blacks

Blacks have never reduced whites to slavery. Blacks don't disenfranchise whites and leave them with substandard educations, working for lower wages and having a higher unemployment rate. Blacks didn't segregate whites, blacks didn't uproot whites from their homes and transport them like cattle halfway around the world.

For you to say that Hokpins is arguing for the racial superiority of the black man is just plain offensive.

It's the blacks who have been oppressed by whites throughout history. When he says he won't lose to a white man, the way I take it is him saying he won't lose to the race that has persecuted and oppressed his own race for generations and who still looks down their noses at his race, especially in Philly where he grew up and lives.
I actually like Hopkins attitude to be honest. He says what he thinks and isn't trying to be all PC.

If he harbours resentment towards whites then so be it, but please don't even begin to equate that to the kind of racism that whites have practised against blacks throughout recent history.

To use my bullying analogy once again. If later in life when they are all grown up the bullied kid stil doesnt like the kid who bullied him that doesn't make him a bully. But if the bully still picks on the kid he bullied as a child then he's still being a bully.

I know it's a lost point on most of you pc nonnies but I'll continue to try and explain the obvious.

That's got nothing to do with Joe though mate

I dont suppose Joes fans realise that the way they act whenever Joes name is mentioned is absolutely killing him in the states
You know,where the money and prestige is
You feed in to these little tempests in teapots,and you make Joe by extension look like a crybaby b****
Theres a reason a title unification bout only did a 2.8 share on HBO
Your over reactionary fandom is killing the guys freaking career
He becomes unattractive because his fans are so freaking ridiculous
Hatton wont see a PPV for years because of what you "fans" did before the Mayweather fight
Roy Jones wouldnt give Joe a shot,because of what an arrogant shite Warren was in negotiations
Way to show your love,act like such jerks you torpedo the guys career,way to show your love

[Kel]

1st of all its completely assanined and ignorant for a 43 year old man to call another man at 36 years old a "White Boy"

Please anyone who dosent take that statement for what it implies RACIAL SUPERIORITY needs to wisen up.... It was in poor taste plain and simple. Hopkins was a douchebag in making that remark END OF!!!! like someone else said if Calzaghe said "I aint lettin no Black Man beat be" the whole place would of errupted Jesse Jackson would have been flow in with Al Sharpton and they would have picketed the gotdam arena. They would have demanded an apology and Calzaghe would have had to have a press conference to save face... Meanwhile Dikhead Hopkins runs off at the mouth and he gets a gatepass, to hell with that I hate racism no matter who is prompting it, but the recourse should be equal as well as the public outrage.

I just don't understand how you can claim Hopkins is a racist and believes in the superiority of the black race as if its the same as when the whites actually practised their superiority over blacks

Blacks have never reduced whites to slavery. Blacks don't disenfranchise whites and leave them with substandard educations, working for lower wages and having a higher unemployment rate. Blacks didn't segregate whites, blacks didn't uproot whites from their homes and transport them like cattle halfway around the world.

For you to say that Hokpins is arguing for the racial superiority of the black man is just plain offensive.

It's the blacks who have been oppressed by whites throughout history. When he says he won't lose to a white man, the way I take it is him saying he won't lose to the race that has persecuted and oppressed his own race for generations and who still looks down their noses at his race, especially in Philly where he grew up and lives.
I actually like Hopkins attitude to be honest. He says what he thinks and isn't trying to be all PC.

If he harbours resentment towards whites then so be it, but please don't even begin to equate that to the kind of racism that whites have practised against blacks throughout recent history.

To use my bullying analogy once again. If later in life when they are all grown up the bullied kid stil doesnt like the kid who bullied him that doesn't make him a bully. But if the bully still picks on the kid he bullied as a child then he's still being a bully.

I know it's a lost point on most of you pc nonnies but I'll continue to try and explain the obvious.

That's got nothing to do with Joe though mate

I dont suppose Joes fans realise that the way they act whenever Joes name is mentioned is absolutely killing him in the states
You know,where the money and prestige is
You feed in to these little tempests in teapots,and you make Joe by extension look like a crybaby b****
Theres a reason a title unification bout only did a 2.8 share on HBO
Your over reactionary fandom is killing the guys freaking career
He becomes unattractive because his fans are so freaking ridiculous
Hatton wont see a PPV for years because of what you "fans" did before the Mayweather fight
Roy Jones wouldnt give Joe a shot,because of what an arrogant shite Warren was in negotiations
Way to show your love,act like such jerks you torpedo the guys career,way to show your love

Who was that directed to?

[Fenster]

1st of all its completely assanined and ignorant for a 43 year old man to call another man at 36 years old a "White Boy"

Please anyone who dosent take that statement for what it implies RACIAL SUPERIORITY needs to wisen up.... It was in poor taste plain and simple. Hopkins was a douchebag in making that remark END OF!!!! like someone else said if Calzaghe said "I aint lettin no Black Man beat be" the whole place would of errupted Jesse Jackson would have been flow in with Al Sharpton and they would have picketed the gotdam arena. They would have demanded an apology and Calzaghe would have had to have a press conference to save face... Meanwhile Dikhead Hopkins runs off at the mouth and he gets a gatepass, to hell with that I hate racism no matter who is prompting it, but the recourse should be equal as well as the public outrage.

I just don't understand how you can claim Hopkins is a racist and believes in the superiority of the black race as if its the same as when the whites actually practised their superiority over blacks

Blacks have never reduced whites to slavery. Blacks don't disenfranchise whites and leave them with substandard educations, working for lower wages and having a higher unemployment rate. Blacks didn't segregate whites, blacks didn't uproot whites from their homes and transport them like cattle halfway around the world.

For you to say that Hokpins is arguing for the racial superiority of the black man is just plain offensive.

It's the blacks who have been oppressed by whites throughout history. When he says he won't lose to a white man, the way I take it is him saying he won't lose to the race that has persecuted and oppressed his own race for generations and who still looks down their noses at his race, especially in Philly where he grew up and lives.
I actually like Hopkins attitude to be honest. He says what he thinks and isn't trying to be all PC.

If he harbours resentment towards whites then so be it, but please don't even begin to equate that to the kind of racism that whites have practised against blacks throughout recent history.

To use my bullying analogy once again. If later in life when they are all grown up the bullied kid stil doesnt like the kid who bullied him that doesn't make him a bully. But if the bully still picks on the kid he bullied as a child then he's still being a bully.

I know it's a lost point on most of you pc nonnies but I'll continue to try and explain the obvious.

That's got nothing to do with Joe though mate

I dont suppose Joes fans realise that the way they act whenever Joes name is mentioned is absolutely killing him in the states
You know,where the money and prestige is
You feed in to these little tempests in teapots,and you make Joe by extension look like a crybaby b****
Theres a reason a title unification bout only did a 2.8 share on HBO
Your over reactionary fandom is killing the guys freaking career
He becomes unattractive because his fans are so freaking ridiculous
Hatton wont see a PPV for years because of what you "fans" did before the Mayweather fight
Roy Jones wouldnt give Joe a shot,because of what an arrogant shite Warren was in negotiations
Way to show your love,act like such jerks you torpedo the guys career,way to show your love

Hatton just made a reported $40million from one fight and Calzaghe is a multi millionaire you fucking dummy.

[Trainer Monkey]

1st of all its completely assanined and ignorant for a 43 year old man to call another man at 36 years old a "White Boy"

Please anyone who dosent take that statement for what it implies RACIAL SUPERIORITY needs to wisen up.... It was in poor taste plain and simple. Hopkins was a douchebag in making that remark END OF!!!! like someone else said if Calzaghe said "I aint lettin no Black Man beat be" the whole place would of errupted Jesse Jackson would have been flow in with Al Sharpton and they would have picketed the gotdam arena. They would have demanded an apology and Calzaghe would have had to have a press conference to save face... Meanwhile Dikhead Hopkins runs off at the mouth and he gets a gatepass, to hell with that I hate racism no matter who is prompting it, but the recourse should be equal as well as the public outrage.

I just don't understand how you can claim Hopkins is a racist and believes in the superiority of the black race as if its the same as when the whites actually practised their superiority over blacks

Blacks have never reduced whites to slavery. Blacks don't disenfranchise whites and leave them with substandard educations, working for lower wages and having a higher unemployment rate. Blacks didn't segregate whites, blacks didn't uproot whites from their homes and transport them like cattle halfway around the world.

For you to say that Hokpins is arguing for the racial superiority of the black man is just plain offensive.

It's the blacks who have been oppressed by whites throughout history. When he says he won't lose to a white man, the way I take it is him saying he won't lose to the race that has persecuted and oppressed his own race for generations and who still looks down their noses at his race, especially in Philly where he grew up and lives.
I actually like Hopkins attitude to be honest. He says what he thinks and isn't trying to be all PC.

If he harbours resentment towards whites then so be it, but please don't even begin to equate that to the kind of racism that whites have practised against blacks throughout recent history.

To use my bullying analogy once again. If later in life when they are all grown up the bullied kid stil doesnt like the kid who bullied him that doesn't make him a bully. But if the bully still picks on the kid he bullied as a child then he's still being a bully.

I know it's a lost point on most of you pc nonnies but I'll continue to try and explain the obvious.

That's got nothing to do with Joe though mate

I dont suppose Joes fans realise that the way they act whenever Joes name is mentioned is absolutely killing him in the states
You know,where the money and prestige is
You feed in to these little tempests in teapots,and you make Joe by extension look like a crybaby b****
Theres a reason a title unification bout only did a 2.8 share on HBO
Your over reactionary fandom is killing the guys freaking career
He becomes unattractive because his fans are so freaking ridiculous
Hatton wont see a PPV for years because of what you "fans" did before the Mayweather fight
Roy Jones wouldnt give Joe a shot,because of what an arrogant shite Warren was in negotiations
Way to show your love,act like such jerks you torpedo the guys career,way to show your love

Who was that directed to?

Its an in general
Everytime something like this comes up if it so much as has Joe's name attached to it,it gets ridiculous quickly
Its killing the guys markatability here in the states,its bad enough Warren constantly wants a stacked deck for Joe,but his fans are murdering his reputation
The little Christmas Card thing didnt help
Neither did the Hatton fans acting like Soccer Hooligans
That crap wont sell over here,it only hurts a guys reputation
Hopkins gets away with it,because we know he's just pulling an Ali and running his mouth so we dont take him seriously
Holmes doing it the way Joe/Frank is doing it,only made him seem like a crybaby
Mayweather isnt nearly as popular as he should be,because of how he and his fans act,though I will give him credit for being magnanimous in beating Hatton,even if Hatton's fans werent in defeat and neither was Ricky
Dey Lo Hoya is WAY more popular then he should be because of the opposite
Trying to blow that little BS comment in to some kind of race war isnt helping Joe,its hurting him
Personally I have no intrest in watching this fight
Either
A)Joe slap hands his way in to convincing the judges he won
or
B)Bernard snipes from the outside and holds and hurts Joe at some point
A snooze festival either way
But Brit fans get so rabid about defending their fighters they actually kill their ability to make a living,after the little routine in Vegas I dont see Hatton getting a PPV here in the states any time soon,hell I wouldnt be suprised to see him on ESPN soon.
And it doesnt have a thing to do with Ricky,it has everything to do with his fans
And oh by the way Fenster you fucking dummy,Ali would have made how much more from fighting Ann Wolfe then she did from Dancing With The Stars?
Wonder how many times over Joe has made Frank Warren a multi millionaire you fucking dummy
Hey dumbass,how much money of Mike Tysons did other people spend
Hey drooling mouthed retard how much money did Tim Witherspoon earn,how much of it does he still have
Hey mouth breathing slope foreheaded imbecile,why did Joe Louis have to be supported by Max Schmelling
Care to continue?

[Cortez The Killer]

Forget all that, this topic is too silly to write that much about.

I remember PBF said something like "It ain't and black or white, it's about GREEN"

Floyd said some wisdom there!

Hopkins was just trying to sell the fight. Maybe he is a little racist, what he said was stupid. If a white person said the same about a black person it would be National News. Calzaghe beats him anyways, Hopins is a snooze fest in the ring.

[No Contest]

To be honest this incident is probably staged just to stir up controversy, which it has. Frank Warren was probably the one video-taping. :P

[Kev]

Bilbo, you need to keep in mind a few things.

Most level headed people do not get caught up in these "racist" things. It is usually the minority of PEOPLE IN GENERAL that make a big deal of it and give a bad name to it.

Are there racist people in America? Sure. There are racist Blacks, Whites, Latinos, Asians, Indians etc.

There are also the majority of all those people who might use some general stereotypes, but are smart enough to judge people individually and not clump everyone into a group of generalizations. This is how most people are. I live in a diverse area and I always see people walking and talking to people of different colors, ethnicities, beliefs. It is the small less than 1% of people that say or do stupid things regarding that and give a bad name to it.

There was a time when America was a country that was divided by race and it might not seem like so long ago. But when I grew up I was oblivious to that. I had good parents who never said anything generalizing another group of people once to me. Most people in America of a certain generation and beyond have very little racial tendencies. The way the media works today most kids of different races grow up admiring or having someone of a different race as a role model. Racism has been dying at a faster and faster rate in this country for a long time.

It is only the small minority of ignorant people that are racist that cause trouble. Racism causes racism just like hates leads to more hate!



The problem is there are special interest groups in the country that often pretend they are acting out of some "ideal" but are mainly there for money and political power. They tend to take small instances between one or two stupid people and try to blow it out of proportion to make it seem like the country has a problem.

Was what Hopkins said stupid? Yes! If a white person said the same thing about a black person in this country it would not just be Boxing News, it would be NATIONAL NEWS.

That is a fact.

I can see JT Rock's point because we live in a very politically correct time and for anyone to say something like that is just stupid. Why can't you just leave it at man versus man, why did hopkins go bring color into it. It is just ignorant and stupid to do that in this day and age. I dont care myself, but there is a double standard.

Hey Cortez I agree with everything you said but I'm not sure you really understand my posts.

If Calzaghe would have said 'I'll never lose to a black man' it would have been national news, I agree completely.

I also think that that would be entirely justified! It IS different for a member of a race who have committed outrageous injustices and acts of outright savagery towards another race in past history to make racist comments towards members of that race now.

My point is that Hopkins race have not committed those brutal crimes on the white man so racial remarks don't carry nearly the same menace.

The only reason the 'race card' is such an emotive issue is because white man's shockingly bad treatment of black's in times past.

If there was no history or slavery and racial injustice you could call people black, white, yellow or whatever without it meaning anything more than calling somebody fat or short.

It's the white injustices towards blacks that created a need to defend people based on race not the other way around.

Therefore in my mind it is a completely different ball game when a white man makes remarks about a black person than when it is the other way around.

Anyway have a for making your post in a calm and intelligent manner, as most of the posts seem to have got quite heated right now.

[Cortez The Killer]

Bilbo, you need to keep in mind a few things.

Most level headed people do not get caught up in these "racist" things. It is usually the minority of PEOPLE IN GENERAL that make a big deal of it and give a bad name to it.

Are there racist people in America? Sure. There are racist Blacks, Whites, Latinos, Asians, Indians etc.

There are also the majority of all those people who might use some general stereotypes, but are smart enough to judge people individually and not clump everyone into a group of generalizations. This is how most people are. I live in a diverse area and I always see people walking and talking to people of different colors, ethnicities, beliefs. It is the small less than 1% of people that say or do stupid things regarding that and give a bad name to it.

There was a time when America was a country that was divided by race and it might not seem like so long ago. But when I grew up I was oblivious to that. I had good parents who never said anything generalizing another group of people once to me. Most people in America of a certain generation and beyond have very little racial tendencies. The way the media works today most kids of different races grow up admiring or having someone of a different race as a role model. Racism has been dying at a faster and faster rate in this country for a long time.

It is only the small minority of ignorant people that are racist that cause trouble. Racism causes racism just like hates leads to more hate!



The problem is there are special interest groups in the country that often pretend they are acting out of some "ideal" but are mainly there for money and political power. They tend to take small instances between one or two stupid people and try to blow it out of proportion to make it seem like the country has a problem.

Was what Hopkins said stupid? Yes! If a white person said the same thing about a black person in this country it would not just be Boxing News, it would be NATIONAL NEWS.

That is a fact.

I can see JT Rock's point because we live in a very politically correct time and for anyone to say something like that is just stupid. Why can't you just leave it at man versus man, why did hopkins go bring color into it. It is just ignorant and stupid to do that in this day and age. I dont care myself, but there is a double standard.

Hey Cortez I agree with everything you said but I'm not sure you really understand my posts.

If Calzaghe would have said 'I'll never lose to a black man' it would have been national news, I agree completely.

I also think that that would be entirely justified! It IS different for a member of a race who have committed outrageous injustices and acts of outright savagery towards another race in past history to make racist comments towards members of that race now.

My point is that Hopkins race have not committed those brutal crimes on the white man so racial remarks don't carry nearly the same menace.

The only reason the 'race card' is such an emotive issue is because white man's shockingly bad treatment of black's in times past.

If there was no history or slavery and racial injustice you could call people black, white, yellow or whatever without it meaning anything more than calling somebody fat or short.

It's the white injustices towards blacks that created a need to defend people based on race not the other way around.

Therefore in my mind it is a completely different ball game when a white man makes remarks about a black person than when it is the other way around.

Anyway have a for making your post in a calm and intelligent manner, as most of the posts seem to have got quite heated right now.

Ah crap, someone copied that rambling half coherent post of mine. CC back Bilbo, you know I like your thoughts and usually think your posts are funny and agreeable.

I guess I saw that Wasp fella say "America is the most racist country in the world" and saw you agree with him. Maybe that's why I got all idealistic

To be honest, I don't really care about the whole issue. Sometimes when I get started typing I forget the point I was making, if any

In fact, If Hopkins brought more excitement to the ring I probably would have jumped out of my seat at his remarks and said "Hell yeah!! Kill whitey!!"

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

He said "I will never let a white boy beat me" four times then he said "I will never lose to a white person"now that's racist.Now if he would have said"I will never let Joe Calzaghe beat me" then that would have been a proper and respected response but insted he chose to lash out at Joe and all white people because Joe had him upset about getting beat by JermainTaylor (another black man) two times so Bernard Hopkins basically said so what, no white person can beat me.Well he did the right thing by not pushing to fight Oleg or he would have been saying "I will never get in the ring with that white boy again."Hell he may say that after Joe gets through with him.

[Fenster]

And oh by the way Fenster you fucking dummy,Ali would have made how much more from fighting Ann Wolfe then she did from Dancing With The Stars?
Wonder how many times over Joe has made Frank Warren a multi millionaire you fucking dummy
Hey dumbass,how much money of Mike Tysons did other people spend
Hey drooling mouthed retard how much money did Tim Witherspoon earn,how much of it does he still have
Hey mouth breathing slope foreheaded imbecile,why did Joe Louis have to be supported by Max Schmelling
Care to continue?

Sure,

What does that dumb-as-fuck rambling nonsense have to do with Hatton and Calzaghe's FANS hurting their reps in the boxing world and stopping them from being MULTI-MILLIONAIRES..


..which they already are

[SigmaMu]

Just imagine what would happen if Hilary said this.
LMAO!

[No Contest]

LOL That made my day, and sumed it up nicely. CC Danny Doesnt help she's throwing up the sieg heil...lol

[Lords Gym]

Forget all that, this topic is too silly to write that much about.

I remember PBF said something like "It ain't and black or white, it's about GREEN"

Floyd said some wisdom there!

Hopkins was just trying to sell the fight. Maybe he is a little racist, what he said was stupid. If a white person said the same about a black person it would be National News. Calzaghe beats him anyways, Hopins is a snooze fest in the ring.

You speak the truth .

It’s a hype thing no question , but to me there are other ways to hype a match. This approach Hopkins took is unacceptable behavior . To fight racism one has to lead by example. Fools like this Hopkins does nothing for the cause , only ignites the flame.

Truth is we all have our own cultures , and within those cultures lies racism make no mistake, however through proper education and compassion, racism can be diluted and somewhat neutralized.

[Trainer Monkey]

And oh by the way Fenster you F****** dummy,Ali would have made how much more from fighting Ann Wolfe then she did from Dancing With The Stars?
Wonder how many times over Joe has made Frank Warren a multi millionaire you F****** dummy
Hey dumbass,how much money of Mike Tysons did other people spend
Hey drooling mouthed retard how much money did Tim Witherspoon earn,how much of it does he still have
Hey mouth breathing slope foreheaded imbecile,why did Joe Louis have to be supported by Max Schmelling
Care to continue?

Sure,

What does that dumb-as-F*** rambling nonsense have to do with Hatton and Calzaghe's FANS hurting their reps in the boxing world and stopping them from being MULTI-MILLIONAIRES..


..which they already are

No genius,theres a difference between getting a purse,and getting the money
There are there these teeny small things called "fees" dumb ass
Like promoter fees
Just for starters
You think Hopkins doesnt book more?
You really must be a dumb ass to think a guy working for his own production company who is way more bankable then a guy who ran up the lowest HBO raitings share ever,doesnt book a wee bit more.
A 2.8 is freaking pathetic
HBO does better then a 2.8 when its running a re-run of Eyes Wide Shut at 2AM
Oh gee golly,two champions made money,hey guess what retard,theyre supposed to
But they arent making the money they could be
Because of mouth breathers like you who have no idea how to comport yourself,and scumballs like Warren who have no idea how to operate in the big time
Yeah you just keep helping your fighter,youve allready cost the guys millions,you keep helping him as well as you have he'll end up like Benitez or Witherspoon or Tyson

[Fenster]

And oh by the way Fenster you F****** dummy,Ali would have made how much more from fighting Ann Wolfe then she did from Dancing With The Stars?
Wonder how many times over Joe has made Frank Warren a multi millionaire you F****** dummy
Hey dumbass,how much money of Mike Tysons did other people spend
Hey drooling mouthed retard how much money did Tim Witherspoon earn,how much of it does he still have
Hey mouth breathing slope foreheaded imbecile,why did Joe Louis have to be supported by Max Schmelling
Care to continue?

Sure,

What does that dumb-as-F*** rambling nonsense have to do with Hatton and Calzaghe's FANS hurting their reps in the boxing world and stopping them from being MULTI-MILLIONAIRES..


..which they already are

No genius,theres a difference between getting a purse,and getting the money
There are there these teeny small things called "fees" dumb ass
Like promoter fees
Just for starters
You think Hopkins doesnt book more?
You really must be a dumb ass to think a guy working for his own production company who is way more bankable then a guy who ran up the lowest HBO raitings share ever,doesnt book a wee bit more.
A 2.8 is freaking pathetic
HBO does better then a 2.8 when its running a re-run of Eyes Wide Shut at 2AM
Oh gee golly,two champions made money,hey guess what retard,theyre supposed to
But they arent making the money they could be
Because of mouth breathers like you who have no idea how to comport yourself,and scumballs like Warren who have no idea how to operate in the big time
Yeah you just keep helping your fighter,youve allready cost the guys millions,you keep helping him as well as you have he'll end up like Benitez or Witherspoon or Tyson

Hatton just made $40million for ONE fight - but fans like me have cost him millions because I don't know how to comport myself?

Calzaghe is an unbeaten multi-millionaire that fought in front of 80,000 plus punters this year, is respected by the entire (knowledgable) boxing world and considered one of the greatest ever super-middleweights - but due to the incompetence of the MILLIONAIRE boxing promoter Frank Warren and fans like me we've cost him millions?

You're either -

a) Mentally handicapped

or

b) The thickest fucker ive ever come across (Nap)