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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    In terms of greatness JCC. If Salvador Sanchez wouldn't have passed young then he may have surpassed JCC.

    Shame we'll never know
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    Default Some of the greats from Mexico.

    Mexico has produced some very great boxers throughout the history of the sport of boxing. I have put together a small list of great fighters in their honor and in gratitude for all the historic moments they have given to this great sport. Enjoy!!!!!

    Salvador Sanchez
    Julio Cesar Chavez
    Ricardo Finito Lopez
    Lupe Pintor
    Carlos Zarate
    Raul Raton Macias
    Ruben Olivares
    Alfonso Zamora
    Vicente Zaldivar
    Humberto Chiquita Gonzalez
    Eric Morales
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Kid Azteca
    Rodolfo Gonzalez
    Jesus Pimentel
    Israel Vasquez
    Daniel Zaragosa
    Jose Pipino Cuevas
    Chango Casanova
    Gabriel Ruelas
    Jose Luis Castillo


    The list goes on and on. Much love and respect to all fighters who continue to contribute to our great sport. Peace!


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    Many thanks

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    merged...

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    Do I see Miguel Cotto on that list?
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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Do I see Miguel Cotto on that list?
    Canto, not Cotto...

    Canto was a brilliant boxer.
    Could be as slick as Locche and Pernell.

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Morales didnt have better competetion than Barrera

    I'd say the greatest Mexican is Barrera . Chavez is his closest rival but Barrera is a better technical boxer plus he has superfight wins over unefeated superstars .
    actually Chavez was a damn good technical fighter and he showed it on various occasions that he could box, he did so in the Randall rematch, he could move well even though he was no Roy Jones and he had a good jab, Barrera IMO did have a bit more technical ability but that's the only thing he edges over Chavez. JCC has a record that pretty much neither, Morales, Barrera,no Marquez can compete with, he's taken on more big names than either of them, although not winning them all, but he has plenty of big name wins on his record as well, over better talent than that of Barrera IMO

    Chavez:
    Ruben Castillo
    Roger Mayweather (2X)
    Rocky Lockridge
    Juan Laporte
    Edwin Rosario
    Rafael Limon
    Jose Luis Ramirez
    Meldrick Taylor (2X)
    Hector Camacho
    Greg Haugen
    Pernell Whitaker (even though a draw, he took the fight)
    Frankie Randall (W2 L1)
    Tony Lopez
    Oscar De La Hoya (L-2)
    Kostya Tzyu (L-1)

    Barrera:
    Agapito Sanchez
    Kennedy Mckinney
    Junior Jones (L-2)
    Erik Morales (W2-L1)
    Naseem Hamed
    Johnny Tapia (and he was passed his best)
    Kevin Kelly
    Manny Pacquiao (L-2)
    Paulie Ayala
    Mzonke Fana
    Robbie Peden (decent fighter that KO'd Campbell twice)
    Rocky Juarez (2X)
    Juan Manuel Marquez (L-1)
    Amir Khan (L-1 should have been a NC)

    If you take apart the fighters they faced, Chavez actually has had the better opposition

    and as for the Morales/Barrera deal...

    Morales:
    Daniel Zaragoza
    Junior Jones (WTKO-4)
    Angel Chacon (fought plenty of big names and gave them good fights)
    Wayne McCullough
    Marco Antonio Barrera (W-1 L-2)
    Kevin Kelly (WTKO-7)
    Gutty Espadas Jr (tough close UD, then blew him out in 3 in the rematch)
    In Jin Chi
    Paulie Ayala
    Jesus Chavez
    Carlos Hernandez
    Manny Pacquiao (W-1 L-2)
    Zahir Raheem (L-1)
    David Diaz (L-1, was complete bullshit loss)

    and you can argue who's fought the best between them, me? i say Morales has had the better opposition, and never sacrificed his way of fighting to win, ultimately i feel this is what led to Morales' downfall at such a young age of 30 but taking so many blows to the head for over 14 yrs will do that to you, i say Barrera's longevity gives him a boost to compete against Morales for greatest Mexican Fighter of all time, but honestly the same way that i scored their trilogy is where i'll put both of them, tied

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    I am surprised Tito Trinidad didnt make your list.












    JK - I would say Julio Caesar Chavez.....

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    I am surprised Tito Trinidad didnt make your list.












    JK - I would say Julio Caesar Chavez.....
    no that would be TITOFAN

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    Julio Caesar Chavez, was the Mexican fighter with the greatest achievements, Who's knows can say what others would have done....

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty View Post
    Do I see Miguel Cotto on that list?
    Canto, not Cotto...

    Canto was a brilliant boxer.
    Could be as slick as Locche and Pernell.
    Certainly could be. Here is a little article I found on him.

    Miguel Canto - A defensive master, he's the Mexican version of Willie Pep. He successfully defended the flyweight title a record 14 times, winning all but one of those fights by 15-round decision, a record that will never be approached for dominance by virtue of pure boxing skill.

    Canto finished 61-9-4 with only 15 knockouts with four of those losses coming at the end of his career and most of the rest in the first two years of it. He was more difficult to hit than Sandy Koufax.

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    I am an avid Erik fan so I will always have him over Barrera. But to be factual you can see he has the better resume and he has beaten Jones and Pacquiao, both of which knocked Barrera out badly. Their three fights were too damn close to be brag of by either of them. I also think the comparisons wouldn't be this close if Erik had been the one who won twice..styles makes fights and Erik's style seem to make all fights close whoever he's up against with.that's is why he's been part of ATG fights and all those unforgettable wars. I can't get enough of this guy. he's a warrior.

    I noticed most Brits seem to adore Barrera. I have no problem with that. But what I don't get is why Erik Morales doesn't get the same love??
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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    Im a great fan of Morales but I know he isn't the greatest overall.
    I picked JCC.
    If Salvador Sanchez didn't pass away at such early age he might have accomplished more.
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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    *I think older fans will say Sanchez... folks in the 40 yr old range will say Chavez... and quiet honestly,JMM should be in the mix... For me, i don't see how u don't pick Salvador Sanchez as the greatest...
    Chavez, Barrera,Morales... they have great names in their list... but Salvador Sanchez had killers on his list... and he beat them all before the age of 23yrs old.
    Do u guys remember what Little Red Lopez was doing to people? Red Lpez was a buzzsaw. Sanchez fought him at his peak... then beat him again to put him into retirement.
    Sanchez beat Wilfredo Gomez...Perto rico's greatest champion... and Sanchez almost KO'ed him in 1. to this day,perto rico can't get over the loss. Gomez had KO'ed almost all his opponenets... in and all time list Gomez sits at the top of his div.
    Azuma Nelson got ko'ed by Sanchez... Azuma fuken Nelson was an animal. Azuma would never get ko'ed or even come close to being schooled like he was schooled againsy Sanchez.
    to me,it's not even close.

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    Default Re: Who is the greatest Mexican fighter of all time?

    I think Sanchez gets a break because he died at the top of his game. If he had not had his car crash and lost his next fight before disappearing into obscurity we wouldn't be having this discussion, and people would be slating him for saying he didn't dominate a division.

    His victory over Nelson was hardly that great, as Nelson was very inexperienced and his mouthguard was stolen so he had a shop bought one that didn't fit.

    For what it is worth, I have JMM ahead of Barrera and Morales.

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