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    Default Re: mayeather vs pacman

    I think Mayweather will stop pac inside 10 rounds i think Mosley,Cotto and Mayweather all beat Pac.

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    Default Re: mayeather vs pacman

    Quote Originally Posted by Skipper One View Post
    I am reading the same things most said prior to dela Hoya's and Hatton's fight against Pacquiao. And when Pacquiao destroyed them both some people know exactly the reason why.

    And if Pacman defeats PBF, I have a pretty good idea what some will say the reason PBF lost.

    I think Roach is right PBF is afraid of Pacquiao. He could have fought a comeback fight with someone Roach will pick for Pacquiao after Hatton. Instead he went for JMM. Why?

    "He's a good small man. I'm a great big man."..that's why.

    The experts in the sport are saying Pacquiao is one of (if not THE) greatest fighter that ever lived. I guess Pacquiao will have to prove that again in the ring like he always does.

    spoken like a true fan boy....marquez clearly beat him twice...moralles once...he's limited at boxing..although he will be one of the greatest ever at 130 and below..but if he gets in the ring with PBF, MOSELY, COTTO, he goes to sleep....
    "Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones

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    Default Re: mayeather vs pacman

    I think Floyd wins with a failry close UD and there's a rematch, but let's see what Floyd has left first when he fights JMM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    I think Floyd wins with a failry close UD and there's a rematch, but let's see what Floyd has left first when he fights JMM.
    That's right. Before we make any speculations about Mayweather being rusty after 11 months off and all, le't see how he performs vs JMM. Both can make a good statement by beating common opponents in a better fashion. Pac already did with Hatton by beating him faster than Floyd but doesn't style makes fights? Now Mayweather has to beat the who "beat" Pac twice, in a clearer fashion.

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    By the time Floyd fights JMM he will have been out of the ring 19 month lets hope he is'nt to rusty so he can get JMM out of the way to set up a super fight with Pac.

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    He did technically, but it was a balance shot more than a power shot
    Yes, that's how I saw it. Its not like Floyd was totally hurt or about to be saved by the referee. He was off balance but it was still a KO for me.

    Next thing for Mayweather is he must get past Marquez, no easy fight for him as Marquez is the only fighter in recent years to give Pacquiao a competitive fight
    ...and two questionable decisions. Let's not forget Morales 1. I think Morales 1 dominated Pac even more than JMM did in both fights.

    What I find funny is how Mayweather will be talking all this trash and Pac will just be smiling peacefully since Pac is not known for being a trash talker. That's why I don't dislike Pac. I just want to see him lose, that's all.

    Floyd should put all the naysayers criticism to rest by challenging true welters. He should beat SSM, Cotto, and Pwill. That would do more for his legacy than beating Pac
    If all that happens, I wonder if people will still throw crap at Mayweather.

    I think Roach will see it as his greatest chess match
    Like I have said before, I think Roach and Moorer were spot on on the 24/7 show when they trained for Hatton's leaping attack and how to counter him and observing other mistakes Hatton makes. As for Mayweather, what mistakes can they study? They say Manny can adapt to certain styles but I am not sure about that specially after seeing him face Morales 1, JMM twice, etc. If someone can adapt to a fight I'll say its Mayweather. He has fought brawlers, boxers, power punchers, speedsters, southpaws, etc. And has adapted just fine. Yes, Roach will see this as his greatest chess match. Now that is a 24/7 I don't want to miss to see how they train for Mayweather.

    Floyd will at the absolute minimum, have trouble with him...
    I HOPE SO. Man! I can't believe I am cheering for Mayweather!

    And if Pacman defeats PBF, I have a pretty good idea what some will say the reason PBF lost
    ...same thing if PBF defeats Pacman.

    I think Roach is right PBF is afraid of Pacquiao. He could have fought a comeback fight with someone Roach will pick for Pacquiao after Hatton. Instead he went for JMM. Why?
    "He's afraid" is one of the most overused lines in boxing just to hype things up, bring the money, etc. He went for JMM which is way better than taking a tune up fight with a guy like David Diaz. It's waaaaaaay better considering that Floyd will fight the guy who "Beat" Pac twice.

    The experts in the sport are saying Pacquiao is one of (if not THE) greatest fighter that ever lived. I guess Pacquiao will have to prove that again in the ring like he always does
    I wonder if some people are just a bit overhyped. Here we have Pac who got dominated by Morales clearly. Then he comes back and wins by KO twice, good job. Then he faces JMM and gets two questionable decisions. Fights a guy like David Diaz and knocks him out, people get all crazy for that win which I just don't understand. Faces an over the hill ODLH who was badly dehydrated weightdrained, something even Pac and his corner acknowledged. Beats Hatton with a powerful left in the 140 pounds, good win. It's not like, say, Tyson who kept beating guys left and right clearly. Pac has lots of big fights along the road and he keeps proving to have the tools to take care of business. I am happy to have a guy like Pac in the sport. Bring on more fights!

    Check out this ESPN article about the greatest fighters ever. Quite interesting.
    http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/greatest/featureVideo?page=greatest110

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    Default Re: mayeather vs pacman

    I'm not a fan of PBF, I don't doubt his ability, but I'm not a fan. That said, I wouldn't argue with his hype at all if he just beat 2 of the top 5 welterweights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tysonbruno View Post
    I think Mayweather will stop pac inside 10 rounds i think Mosley,Cotto and Mayweather all beat Pac.
    I don't agree with you, but win or lose, give the guy daps for fighting them. At the end of the day, it says something if Pac fights Cotto or SSM before PBF. If Pac went by the PBF model, he would fight fight at 135 and only fight junior lightweights.

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    Mayweather has primarily an outside style. Many people make a big deal out of Mayweather's defensive skills and they are pretty good, but not so good that he can't get hit buy even a slower opponent with less on the body movement boxing skills. If your review his fights it's because he gets swarmed or counter punched from his lead right. De La Hoya was not a on the toes style but a rather pressure fighter as was hatton. Both were guys that came straight forward and got to mayweather with swarms of punches but didn't give Mayweather too many angles to have to deal with. Marquez is going to give Mayweather some trouble but has problems cutting the ring as well as Hatton does. Marquez had problems with Chris John's deep in and out movements with just a 2" reach advantage and counldn't catch him. Mayweather will be able to exploit Marquez with his 5" reach advantage but will take some hits from Marquez because Mayweather timing is more predictable than Chris John's. Zab Judah was able to turn Mayweather and get in some good shots with his right hook, straight left and count left hook. Mayweather likes to duck and cover a lot, I think it's to conserve energy.

    Fighting Pacquiao, Mayweather has three problems he has to deal with. First he has to deal with that southpaw stance which takes away alot of that reach advantage. Second Pacquiao has very good stamina and will have to deal with a lot of punches. Thirdly Pacquiao's speed. This combination is what will give Mayweather his first loss if he ever gets in the ring with Pacquaio. Even if Pacquiao can't get a clean knockout shot on Mayweather he's going to have more connects, and drive the pace of the fight to get a UD.

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    People think Pacquiao is so much better after defeating Hatton. I thought myself something was strange. So I went and analyzed the fight, punch-for-punch, wrote it down, watched it in slow motion, everything. What I saw was very different than the first time when I watched it without expecting anything. I saw a Hatton that came in with all the right tools and doing everything right to beat PAC. Look at the start of the fight, Hatton bullies PAC to the point PAC is running away from him. Just like an animal who cannot resist when it sees its prey fleeing Hatton charges it recklessly throwing all skill and caution to the wind. Pacquiao instantly capitilizes and intercepts turning the fight around. Right until the last KO Hatton had the right gameplan and if you look landed some good hard punches that had their effect on Pacquiao. But it was Pacquiao who, with his speed and power, was able to intercept and combine his power with that of the charging Hatton to destroy him. This repeated itself over and over. If Hatton only listened, stuck to the gameplan and didnt charge, there might have been a very different outcome. After all that scrutiny I wasnt as impressed as I formerly was. I think that match revealed a lot of Pacquiaos weaknesses. Not to mention he drops his gaurd hand whenever he punches leaving him vulnerable to counterpunching.

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    Many people make a big deal out of Mayweather's defensive skills and they are pretty good, but not so good that he can't get hit buy even a slower opponent with less on the body movement boxing skills
    I think people make it a big deal because he is yet to leave a fight with a single bruise to his face. There's a reason why he is called "Pretty Boy" and that is because he always leaves the ring "looking pretty", as gay as it may sound.

    Mayweather likes to duck and cover a lot, I think it's to conserve energy
    I wonder if that is why he is selective with his punches and not just throws them at will.

    Fighting Pacquiao, Mayweather has three problems he has to deal with. First he has to deal with that southpaw stance which takes away alot of that reach advantage. Second Pacquiao has very good stamina and will have to deal with a lot of punches. Thirdly Pacquiao's speed. This combination is what will give Mayweather his first loss if he ever gets in the ring with Pacquaio. Even if Pacquiao can't get a clean knockout shot on Mayweather he's going to have more connects, and drive the pace of the fight to get a UD
    How about if he just keeps throwing flurries of punches only to have Floyr shoulder-roll them, connect Pac with a straight right, and then slip away from him. That's his usual style.

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