Dirrell deserved to lose. Fact.

[amat]

LOL, ALL FROCH DOES IS GO FOR THE KO. And he does it with 1 shot. oh yeah, he has that "jab." They could fight 100 times and Froch would win maybe 2 times last fight included as a win. Dirrell is CLEARLY a better fighter, whenever you have rematches you have to go with the better fighter. Froch didn't even buzz him, he didn't come close. What a joke Fenster, at least I hope that's what it is. Even the most ardent Froch supporter knows that it's Dirrell, not Froch, who is likely to fight a better fight next time. He has more adjustments to make to work in his favor, no way.

[amat]

I actually think Froch's post-fight speech is just a reflection of who he is. I've got no doubt he thought he won that fight, in every single interview he proves himself to be a delusional knob. He's the Hattonhammer of boxers right now.

[Fenster]

LOL, ALL FROCH DOES IS GO FOR THE KO. And he does it with 1 shot. oh yeah, he has that "jab." They could fight 100 times and Froch would win maybe 2 times last fight included as a win. Dirrell is CLEARLY a better fighter, whenever you have rematches you have to go with the better fighter. Froch didn't even buzz him, he didn't come close. What a joke Fenster, at least I hope that's what it is. Even the most ardent Froch supporter knows that it's Dirrell, not Froch, who is likely to fight a better fight next time. He has more adjustments to make to work in his favor, no way.

You're not grasping the importance of the mindset in these matters.

Yes Froch never hit Dirrell. But the ones that got close clearly bothered him.

Froch knew after the 2nd round Dirrell wasn't going to win with his ultra negative style. So he never got into panic mode where he NEEDED a KO.

Fighting in the States he KNOWS he will get robbed even if he outboxes Dirrell. So the mindest from the off will be KO.

It's very clear amat. You have to think outside the box.

[Kev]

LOL, ALL FROCH DOES IS GO FOR THE KO. And he does it with 1 shot. oh yeah, he has that "jab." They could fight 100 times and Froch would win maybe 2 times last fight included as a win. Dirrell is CLEARLY a better fighter, whenever you have rematches you have to go with the better fighter. Froch didn't even buzz him, he didn't come close. What a joke Fenster, at least I hope that's what it is. Even the most ardent Froch supporter knows that it's Dirrell, not Froch, who is likely to fight a better fight next time. He has more adjustments to make to work in his favor, no way.

haha that made me laugh. What has been missing from Froch's last three fights though has been the uppercut. Prior to the Pascal fight his trademark was to hang his hands low, invite his opponent to come in and then sucker them with a devastating uppercut, it was beautiful to see.

His last few fights he's not had the opportunity, partly I think because his opponents don't ever want to come to him, and partly because against fighters better than our domestic plodders he looks he's punching in water.

The on factor in Froch's favour is that the old sayings are speed kills and the better, faster boxer will beat the brawler type etc. Well Froch in last two fights has fought the two fastest, slickest fighters he may ever face and he's still unbeaten which means something.

Its a bit like Chavez really, he was completely outboxed by Meldrick Taylor in the first fight but caught up with him late, and battered him in the rematch.

Froch may be that kind of fighter (not saying he is as good, just the type of fighter he is).

I look forward immensely to his fight with Kessler. On paper Kessler does everything right whereas Froch does everything wrong so Kessler should win it easily.

But he won't be running like the others so maybe Froch can get into more....

I wouldn't write him off yet, although I have little doubt that Andre Ward will win the tournament.

[Kev]

I just found this clip advert for Froch Taylor on youtube, never saw it when the fight was on, great advert by Showtime, that's one of the best prefight teasers I've ever seen, I'm buzzing for the fight all over again even though its happened

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e-YzTCduy8

[TheMacMagician]

You have to be pretty naive if you think Dirrell was going to get the decision, fighting like that, in the other guys backyard.

Come on now.

The fight was a boring, ugly, messy letdown.

Hold, foul, hold, duck/spin round, hold, pose, hold, run, hold.. boring, boring, boring.

Dirrell won the fight but it would have been a travesty had Froch lost.

Didn't get chance to get on here yesterday, got in at 6.30 am after the fight and slept all day.

Haven't managed to watch this on tv yet, but up to round 6 this fight was horrible to watch, I felt that Dirrell was a super middleweight version of Junior Witter and terribly negative, with Froch so wide open and flailing shots and bulling around. It was actually painful to watch for a while. I like Froch as he won't back down to anyone, but when Dirrell actually decided to fight rather than run, hold or fall over he looked fantastic, but he only did that for three rounds maybe four IMO so i'm glad he didn't win. He looked to land on Froch with ease. He was like a switch hitting Mayweather with his running and rope sliding.

Two things after witnessing this live.

1. Froch is going to get knocked out by Mikkel Kessler, and possibly even Arthur Abraham.

2. Dirrell, if he clicks the switch on in his brain much earlier than round 9, atleast 4, from here on in could really pose a threat to absolutely anyone at SMW. His timing, accuracy and speed were fantastic, just no where near enough of it.

[BIG H]

I've just watched the fight. I didn't see a blatant robbery, but I thought Dirrell definitely won the fight. I scored it 115-113 (including the bullshit point decuction) Dirrell was very frustrating because I feel he could've won every round if he had've stopped the leaning and holding and just relied on his skill and ability. He'll be back!

[Youngblood]

I've just watched the fight. I didn't see a blatant robbery, but I thought Dirrell definitely won the fight. I scored it 115-113 (including the bullshit point decuction) Dirrell was very frustrating because I feel he could've won every round if he had've stopped the leaning and holding and just relied on his skill and ability. He'll be back!

This is a fair assessment, and about what I have after rewatching it in good quality. Again, factoring in the rediculous pt deduction. And I emphasize that because it really was. You don't ref a fight like that then all of a sudden knock off a pt. when there were so many blatant potential pt deductions coming from Froch also. If you're going to let it be rough and a bit dirty and play out that way, fair enough. Let them go.

And even then, scoring it as such, I was really looking to give Froch a round or 2 that were close.

Final assessment of both fighters:

Dirrell can improve a lot, and use this as a learning tool. he could easily have boxed the ears off of Froch, but did fight too safe. If he can find a good balance of defence and ultilizing that speed for offence, he will be much more dangerous.

Froch. Meh. I dunno. I really didn't have any thoughts on him going in. But there isn't a lot there to improve on. His whole thing is, lets get close and bang and see what happens. Well, boxing is more then that. And he is going to get exposed for it. In that kind of battle, and with slick fighters. This may not have been his best performance, and Dirells game likely did make him look worse then he is, but overall, he is a very limited fighter.

[Hunter]

Froch doesnt use the upper cut anymore because if you throw an upper cut the way Froch does against a top 5 SMW Froch will be the one staring up at the lights.....

[Fenster]

The greatly respected Graham Houston agrees with Fenster.

DEBATABLE YES, ROBBERY NO: Carl Froch W12 (split) Andre Dirrell | FightWriter

[OumaFan]

LOL at "Dirrell looked shaky from the shots Froch nearly landed", actually very true, he is a bit of a head case.

I have to say I've found Bilbo's general epiphany about Froch kind of humorous. He looks the same as he's always looked.

[OumaFan]

this actually might have been a robbery. Its about time.

[Hunter]

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You're not grasping the importance of the mindset in these matters.

Yes Froch never hit Dirrell. But the ones that got close clearly bothered him.

So froch hits so hard, even when he doesnt hit his opponent the wind from his fist going by creates a percussion that shocks his opponents??...Is that what you are saying?



Frosh landed cleanly on Dirrell and Dirrell walked through the shots, when Dirrell landed cleanly Froch started to do the chicken dance.......

I think that points to a Dirrell KO in the rematch.....

[Fenster]

LOL at "Dirrell looked shaky from the shots Froch nearly landed", actually very true, he is a bit of a head case.

I have to say I've found Bilbo's general epiphany about Froch kind of humorous. He looks the same as he's always looked.

I thought that was funny too. I'm disappointed with amat.

[Fenster]

[QUOTE=Hunter;799665]

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You're not grasping the importance of the mindset in these matters.

Yes Froch never hit Dirrell. But the ones that got close clearly bothered him.

So froch hits so hard, even when he doesnt hit his opponent the wind from his fist going by creates a percussion that shocks his opponents??...Is that what you are saying?



Frosh landed cleanly on Dirrell and Dirrell walked through the shots, when Dirrell landed cleanly Froch started to do the chicken dance.......

I think that points to a Dirrell KO in the rematch.....

I'm saying if Froch had hit him he may have hurt him. Trust me.