Does this rub poo on Calzaghe's biggest win

[JT Rock]

I couldnt resist

Seriously though, Kess is supposed to be a longtime reigning champ in his 10th straight championship fight and he got out clevered by a 20 fight guy. Not sparring with any southpaws and not adjusting to the inside is inexcusable, I know the butt at the end looked like a drunkin car wreck but the others were unintentional and had nothing to do with Ward attacking a pressing most of the fight and Kess missing the counters

I would concede shitty reffing if Kess was succesful on the outside and Ward was holding and spoiling to nullify, the truth is Ward was beating him bad on the outside too..

How would have Calzaghe done last night?

[JT Rock]

Forgot to add a Not Sure option for the poll.

Thats what I would vote.. Maybe a Mod could add it for me

[Master]

Kessler has not fought for ages and that must have hampered his performance. Since the defeat to Joe he has had legal issues which has kept him out of the ring. Andre did great but this has no reflection on Joe's victory.

[OumaFan]

Well I think old Hopkins is still his biggest win.

The Hopkins that came in against Cals would have totally befuddled last nights Kessler. Which to be fair is exactly what Ward did. He may have gotten punished less.

Kessler just doesn't seem to adapt well which is a trait of most great fighters. But I think Joe's legacy is still solid if a little less impressive than it could have been if not for that long span in the middle of his career where he didn't get much done.

[Fenster]

1. Calzaghe obviously ruined Kessler.

2. Eubank was a bigger win than Kessler.

3. Jesus might have given Calzaghe problems.. all the dirty guys did.

[OumaFan]

Fenster, add a "not sure" option to the poll, I don't know how to

Or everyone could just say I'm not sure, I don't know.

[AdamGB]

Calzaghe didn't clinch like an S.O.B. or literally use his head.

Credit to Ward, but I don't think he did it in as impressive a manner...

[killersheep]

Kessler has not fought for ages and that must have hampered his performance. Since the defeat to Joe he has had legal issues which has kept him out of the ring. Andre did great but this has no reflection on Joe's victory.

Didn't Kessler just fight a mandatory like two months ago?

[Fenster]

Here's four more Calzaghe haters certain to vote yes - ICB, VD, Dark Lord Al, Tysonbruno

[OumaFan]

Well I voted no mainly cause I didn't think it was his biggest win. But of course it takes some of the luster off, I would still probably vote no as I'm not sure it technically rubbed shit all over it.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I voted NO it doesn't.

I think it's more of a case that Ward is just that good.

Also Calzaghe was 35 years old... A 30 year old would of stopped him IMO.

[Dark Lord Al]

Here's four more Calzaghe haters certain to vote yes - ICB, VD, Dark Lord Al, Tysonbruno

You are right , but for the record i dont hate Calzaghe anymore.

[ICB]

Here's four more Calzaghe haters certain to vote yes - ICB, VD, Dark Lord Al, Tysonbruno

Hold on a minute wasn't i the one saying Mikkel Kessler was good, and Joe Calzaghe deserved credit for the win ? and didn't i give him credit for the close win over B-HOP, even though i did scored it for B-HOP ?

Im not a hater your just a Joe Calzaghe fan, and you disagree with any negative comments on Joe Calzaghe which is fine, but im not a hater.

But i have stated many times even though, Mikkel Kessler is good he is untested and he hadn't fully proven himself yet. Everyone kept saying Mikkel Kessler will beat this guy, and give this guy a tough fight ETC.

When truthfully he is untested at the elite level, the best fighter he beat was Anthony Mundine. Who is a good fighter but elite ? im not sure about that, and who else is there really Librado Andrade ? Markus Beyer ?

Theres no doubt Mikkel Kessler is a good fighter, and Joe Calzaghe does deserve credit for beating him. But as i've told you many times, he is still untested and no one truly knows how good he is.

And obviously any loss he has now will take some credit away from the win. Personally i didn't see the fight, i've been busy and haven't really been following boxing. And to be honest i only remembered it because it was in the paper today.

But i will get round to watching it at some point, and then i will say whether or not it rubs poo on Joe Calzaghe's win as JT put it, depending on how badly Mikkel Kessler was beat.

But as others have said Mikkel Kessler isn't good at adjusting, and he's not a good inside fighter which will always be a problem. But maybe it was a bad style match up, i don't really know but all i know is that Mikkel Kessler is still untested IMO.

[Saddo]

just goes to show how good Calzaghe was... them fighters are never the same after sharing the ring with him