Haye accuses Klit bros of fighting old run down Americans and rejecting his offer

[Fenster]

get this - sky have just announced pac-margarito is being shown live but not as part of the haye ppv.

It's "free" on sky sports 1.

yay!

For sure yay! Great news.

[Fenster]

Haye makes a bigger fool of himself by the day....Get over it man either fight one of the K@ brothers or shut up already!!!!.....For goodness sake Ruiz, Audley?....The we will get on the Klits for fighting Shannon....I do not think Shannon should of had a title shot let alone been in the ring with a top HW due to his activity over the last few years but WTF has Haye done?...Beat Valuev?....Valuev ranks right along side Carnera when it comes to huge oafs that made it on nothing more then Carnival attraction size....

This has gone beyond negotiations and it has gone beyond reality and has become nothing but nonsense.....Haye thinks he is the HW version of Floyd when in truth outside the UK NO ONE CARES ABOUT HAYE....and it is starting to seem that even his own countrymen are starting to lose interest in him....I mean shit he backed out on both brothers....an agreement was made for 50/50 and he still finds a way to not sign.....Haye has not impressed ANYONE BUT AN IDIOT....To date with a single win....His greatest moment at looking like there is something worth watching was the Enzo fight.....Enzo was knocked out twice this week alone.,,,,First time an acorn falling from a tree put him out then on his way from the ER a kid took him out with a spit ball so the KO really was nothing to fathom on....

Haye confuses himself with PBF except he is not half the fighter Floyd is...has a tenth of the drawing power worldwide and hold what is currently the least desired of the ABC titles....Keep taking David maybe one day you will believe what you are saying

Comedy gold.

Here come your rabid American's Sheepster

[killersheep]

Haye makes a bigger fool of himself by the day....Get over it man either fight one of the K@ brothers or shut up already!!!!.....For goodness sake Ruiz, Audley?....The we will get on the Klits for fighting Shannon....I do not think Shannon should of had a title shot let alone been in the ring with a top HW due to his activity over the last few years but WTF has Haye done?...Beat Valuev?....Valuev ranks right along side Carnera when it comes to huge oafs that made it on nothing more then Carnival attraction size....

This has gone beyond negotiations and it has gone beyond reality and has become nothing but nonsense.....Haye thinks he is the HW version of Floyd when in truth outside the UK NO ONE CARES ABOUT HAYE....and it is starting to seem that even his own countrymen are starting to lose interest in him....I mean shit he backed out on both brothers....an agreement was made for 50/50 and he still finds a way to not sign.....Haye has not impressed ANYONE BUT AN IDIOT....To date with a single win....His greatest moment at looking like there is something worth watching was the Enzo fight.....Enzo was knocked out twice this week alone.,,,,First time an acorn falling from a tree put him out then on his way from the ER a kid took him out with a spit ball so the KO really was nothing to fathom on....

Haye confuses himself with PBF except he is not half the fighter Floyd is...has a tenth of the drawing power worldwide and hold what is currently the least desired of the ABC titles....Keep taking David maybe one day you will believe what you are saying

Comedy gold.

Here come your rabid American's Sheepster

Does that make me more of a Shepard than a sheep?

[somnolence]

I honestly believe that with all of this that's going on now it is signalling the end to what has been a far too lenghtly wait for Haye to fight a Klit.
As many have stated in other threads, Chisora fighting against Wlad will bring in a lot of hype and attention, and the same with Haye finally finishing Audley. The Wlad Chisora fight especially will mean more public attention leading to shifting a lot more PPVs over here in the UK than if he was just fighting Americans as usual, as Wlad especially is surprisingly unknown amongst the general sports fans that would sometimes buy the odd PPV.
I really hope I'm right and we'll see them fight in the first half of next year. If not then from a business and general logic point of view it will be a huge opportunity missed for both parties.
If not then there will be a huge (further) lack of interest in the heavyweight division, and probably for a long time ahead.

[Nameless]

The dude is defo not the greatest champion in the division and he wants the butter and the bread at the same time just because he knows that his demands are not fair and then is just running with the wind avoiding the real challenges. In exchange, he fights one of the great HW washed up, not even a worthy contender and he keeps his mouth running, unbelievable.

[Hunter]

Ha - David "the Ducker" Haye.

The Haye/Harrison fight wont even be shown in the US. At least ESPN picks up the Klitchko fights.

The US is neutral here. Haye is from England and the Klits from Germany. Everyone in the US thinks Haye is a scared little bitch if they have even heard of him.

I had nothing against Haye until he called out the Klitschkos and than ran when they agreed. Haye has got to be the biggest fraud in boxing history.

[somnolence]

Ha - David "the Ducker" Haye.

The Haye/Harrison fight wont even be shown in the US. At least ESPN picks up the Klitchko fights.

The US is neutral here. Haye is from England and the Klits from Germany. Everyone in the US thinks Haye is a scared little bitch if they have even heard of him.

I had nothing against Haye until he called out the Klitschkos and than ran when they agreed. Haye has got to be the biggest fraud in boxing history.

While I agree from a boxing fans perspective with you, Haye has probably done the best thing he could from a business sense as I stated above. Especially now with Chisora getting a fight.
Valuev was an easier way to get a belt, then the mandatory defense of Ruiz, and Audley for further UK attention. It also has bought him time in which he will have hoped the Klits will have weakened.
Plus all you Americans that know Haye will watch it if it does happen in hope he'll get KOd. Let's face it, there wasn't really any way Haye was going to appeal to USA fans from the Valuev/Ruiz fights, so it makes sense for him to build it up on home turf.
And for the record I think Haye would lose but have more of a chance than anyone else out there

[DaxxKahn]

Ha - David "the Ducker" Haye.

The Haye/Harrison fight wont even be shown in the US. At least ESPN picks up the Klitchko fights.

The US is neutral here. Haye is from England and the Klits from Germany. Everyone in the US thinks Haye is a scared little bitch if they have even heard of him.

I had nothing against Haye until he called out the Klitschkos and than ran when they agreed. Haye has got to be the biggest fraud in boxing history.

While I agree from a boxing fans perspective with you, Haye has probably done the best thing he could from a business sense as I stated above. Especially now with Chisora getting a fight.
Valuev was an easier way to get a belt, then the mandatory defense of Ruiz, and Audley for further UK attention. It also has bought him time in which he will have hoped the Klits will have weakened.
Plus all you Americans that know Haye will watch it if it does happen in hope he'll get KOd. Let's face it, there wasn't really any way Haye was going to appeal to USA fans from the Valuev/Ruiz fights, so it makes sense for him to build it up on home turf.
And for the record I think Haye would lose but have more of a chance than anyone else out there

I give Haye a good chance at beating one of the K brothers if he comes in preppared and fights hard with a quick pace early.....But point of the matter is he has to actually put a pen in his hand to sign the contract for any of us the lovers or haters will ever know

[DaxxKahn]

Haye makes a bigger fool of himself by the day....Get over it man either fight one of the K@ brothers or shut up already!!!!.....For goodness sake Ruiz, Audley?....The we will get on the Klits for fighting Shannon....I do not think Shannon should of had a title shot let alone been in the ring with a top HW due to his activity over the last few years but WTF has Haye done?...Beat Valuev?....Valuev ranks right along side Carnera when it comes to huge oafs that made it on nothing more then Carnival attraction size....

This has gone beyond negotiations and it has gone beyond reality and has become nothing but nonsense.....Haye thinks he is the HW version of Floyd when in truth outside the UK NO ONE CARES ABOUT HAYE....and it is starting to seem that even his own countrymen are starting to lose interest in him....I mean shit he backed out on both brothers....an agreement was made for 50/50 and he still finds a way to not sign.....Haye has not impressed ANYONE BUT AN IDIOT....To date with a single win....His greatest moment at looking like there is something worth watching was the Enzo fight.....Enzo was knocked out twice this week alone.,,,,First time an acorn falling from a tree put him out then on his way from the ER a kid took him out with a spit ball so the KO really was nothing to fathom on....

Haye confuses himself with PBF except he is not half the fighter Floyd is...has a tenth of the drawing power worldwide and hold what is currently the least desired of the ABC titles....Keep taking David maybe one day you will believe what you are saying

Comedy gold.

Here come your rabid American's Sheepster

Does that make me more of a Shepard than a sheep?

If I have to be a Rabid American Sheep in this debate I will and if KS hasd to be the shepard so be it but in no way under any circumstance will anyone be sheering my wool

[JazMerkin]

I think that the US guys might have a point about Haye 'piggybacking' a PPV if they had Mayweather on the bill. Although they might have similar levels of stardom in the States, over here it's not even comparable, the fact Hatton-PBF drew more than a million more buys than Hatton-Pac says it all. Plus Sky love Mayweather, in truth because in this country, there's two ways to get mass exposure. Be a real salt of the earth man of the people construct where being British is a pre-requisite (Frank Bruno, Ricky Hatton, Freddie Flintoff) or be a good old fashioned bastard, where being foreign is a bonus (Cristiano Ronaldo, Kevin Pieterson, Haye, Mayweather). Wayne Rooney is currently straddling both of those

Anyway, Haye-Harrison doesn't need it, this fight is huge over here, people at my work with no interest in boxing are asking how far away the fight is. Only about 10% even know who Manny Pacquiao is. Fuck's sake, the Metro (trashy free paper you get on London underground) had two pages devoted to boxing today. One & half to Haye/Harrison related news, the other half split between Rendall Munroe & James DeGale.

As it is, on the 50/50 thing, I do agree people have a point that if Haye is fighting Wladimir, it should go right down the middle. Wlad is THE champ & deserves to get at least his fair share. If on the other hand he fights Vitali, then the rules change. Vitali has no greater leverage over Haye like being the legit champ or having more belts. He has one belt just like Haye. It then comes down to financial considerations. If Haye can draw more than Vitali, he deserves a greater share. If he's bringing in more cash, I see no reason why he shouldn't get more. What leverage does Vitali have that he doesnt? At the end of the day this is a business, and if the shoe was on the other foot, I don't see Vitali compromising on his cashflow

[Fenster]

I think that the US guys might have a point about Haye 'piggybacking' a PPV if they had Mayweather on the bill. Although they might have similar levels of stardom in the States, over here it's not even comparable, the fact Hatton-PBF drew more than a million more buys than Hatton-Pac says it all. Plus Sky love Mayweather, in truth because in this country, there's two ways to get mass exposure. Be a real salt of the earth man of the people construct where being British is a pre-requisite (Frank Bruno, Ricky Hatton, Freddie Flintoff) or be a good old fashioned bastard, where being foreign is a bonus (Cristiano Ronaldo, Kevin Pieterson, Haye, Mayweather). Wayne Rooney is currently straddling both of those

Anyway, Haye-Harrison doesn't need it, this fight is huge over here, people at my work with no interest in boxing are asking how far away the fight is. Only about 10% even know who Manny Pacquiao is. Fuck's sake, the Metro (trashy free paper you get on London underground) had two pages devoted to boxing today. One & half to Haye/Harrison related news, the other half split between Rendall Munroe & James DeGale.

As it is, on the 50/50 thing, I do agree people have a point that if Haye is fighting Wladimir, it should go right down the middle. Wlad is THE champ & deserves to get at least his fair share. If on the other hand he fights Vitali, then the rules change. Vitali has no greater leverage over Haye like being the legit champ or having more belts. He has one belt just like Haye. It then comes down to financial considerations. If Haye can draw more than Vitali, he deserves a greater share. If he's bringing in more cash, I see no reason why he shouldn't get more. What leverage does Vitali have that he doesnt? At the end of the day this is a business, and if the shoe was on the other foot, I don't see Vitali compromising on his cashflow

Same as. I know people that will buy this fight but wouldn't give Floyd-Pac a mention. Seems ridiculous, although understandable if you come from the UK.

[0james0]

I think also the promotion helps a lot. Ricky hyped the fuck out of his fight with Floyd, far more than with Pacman. He was everywhere and to the general public it was billed as the biggest fight in decades, two fighters coming together with massive unbeaten records. It sold to people who didn't even like boxing.

Compared to the Pacman fight where people didn't care enough to pay.