cheating

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Oh an I neg-reped you cause your a mong

Maybe you neg-repped me back because you want me to stop wiping my arse with your reputation?

easy debates like this just enhance my standing

it was an easy win

whos next?

Haha!

Fair enough then, someone give the boy a hand.

[:::PSL:::]

Oh an I neg-reped you cause your a mong

Maybe you neg-repped me back because you want me to stop wiping my arse with your reputation?

easy debates like this just enhance my standing

it was an easy win

whos next?

Oh bwoy. You must be out of your fukkin mind if you think you're winning this troll thread that you created.

...And don't act like you're surprised with the neg reps that you've been taking.

[erics44]

Oh an I neg-reped you cause your a mong

Maybe you neg-repped me back because you want me to stop wiping my arse with your reputation?

easy debates like this just enhance my standing

it was an easy win

whos next?

Oh bwoy. You must be out of your fukkin mind if you think you're winning this troll thread that you created.

...And don't act like you're surprised with the neg reps that you've been taking.

shut up with this stupid troll shit you mong

[0james0]

A better question would be:


If you could cheat and get away with it, would you?

So if someone said they have Redbull extreme which will not only improve your boxing prowess, but also make you better in bed and is 100% untracable, would you take it and cheat your way to the top?

[erics44]

its a good question

i reckon the vast majority would

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

A better question would be:


If you could cheat and get away with it, would you?

So if someone said they have Redbull extreme which will not only improve your boxing prowess, but also make you better in bed and is 100% untracable, would you take it and cheat your way to the top?

I think the answer is alot of people are suspected of doing so.
Without proper regulation there is basically no limit to the levels a man could go to in order to gain an advantage.




BTW, still no takers on giving Eric a hand Just one little clap... No?

Not yet then, maybe later.

[Nameless]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

[erics44]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

youre wrong

but even if it was less its still a massive advantage over a fighter that is clean

[Lance Uppercut]

There seems to be a lot of hate for margarito and perhaps rightly so

there is a history of cheating tho by boxers people seem to love

toney, rjj, hollyfield, mosely

look at rjj,. he was unbeatable, did the change come when he was exposed?

im not trying to start a controvesial thread that might spark some heated debate but i would like to know people's thoughts on the drug cheats

Roy Jones used Ripp Fuel; which is not steroids. And it was only illegal in that weird little state that he fought in, and not even knew it was illegal at the time. So it is a little unfair to group him with the others.

Also Holyfield has never been caught using steriods(although there is mounting evidence that he probably did)

[erics44]

There seems to be a lot of hate for margarito and perhaps rightly so

there is a history of cheating tho by boxers people seem to love

toney, rjj, hollyfield, mosely

look at rjj,. he was unbeatable, did the change come when he was exposed?

im not trying to start a controvesial thread that might spark some heated debate but i would like to know people's thoughts on the drug cheats

Roy Jones used Ripp Fuel; which is not steroids. And it was only illegal in that weird little state that he fought in, and not even knew it was illegal at the time. So it is a little unfair to group him with the others.

Also Holyfield has never been caught using steriods(although there is mounting evidence that he probably did)

ill have to take your word for it on roy jones

i cant remember what happened

[Nameless]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

youre wrong

but even if it was less its still a massive advantage over a fighter that is clean

Absolutely not. Your ignorance and refusal to admit the facts are just annoying, brass knuckle = potentially lethal weapons, steroids aren't in the same repertoire. Are you trying to say that Luis Resto and Panama Lewis shouldn't have been ban for life for what they did and that a one year suspension like the one Margarito had should have been ok?

[erics44]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

youre wrong

but even if it was less its still a massive advantage over a fighter that is clean

Absolutely not. Your ignorance and refusal to admit the facts are just annoying, brass knuckle = potentially lethal weapons, steroids aren't in the same repertoire. Are you trying to say that Luis Resto and Panama Lewis shouldn't have been ban for life for what they did and that a one year suspension like the one Margarito had should have been ok?

this is exactly what i could say to you dude

i am not denying loading your gloves is a leathal, its a dirty thing margs did

but so is taking steroids, the physical advantages it gives you are massive

i dont know how to put my point across any more than that

and the point of the thread is, is that its a dirty way to cheat just like loading your gloves, and im not saying margarito should be liked or that his ban or anyone elses ban was right or wrong, im just saying they should be treated the same as steroid users

[Nameless]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

youre wrong

but even if it was less its still a massive advantage over a fighter that is clean

Absolutely not. Your ignorance and refusal to admit the facts are just annoying, brass knuckle = potentially lethal weapons, steroids aren't in the same repertoire. Are you trying to say that Luis Resto and Panama Lewis shouldn't have been ban for life for what they did and that a one year suspension like the one Margarito had should have been ok?

this is exactly what i could say to you dude

i am not denying loading your gloves is a leathal, its a dirty thing margs did

but so is taking steroids, the physical advantages it gives you are massive

i dont know how to put my point across any more than that

and the point of the thread is, is that its a dirty way to cheat just like loading your gloves, and im not saying margarito should be liked or that his ban or anyone elses ban was right or wrong, im just saying they should be treated the same as steroid users

Have you ever done physics classes for god's sake? On your own assessment, Steroids can enhance perhaps from 10-15% the strength of somebody. Do you know what is the level of pressure in brass knuckles? it triples or more the force of impact, which is.... infinitely more damageable than Steroids.

You do not seem to get the point about how more it is damageable.

Also, spare me the bullshit that a cheater is a cheater, there is different levels of severity, steroids should be banned for a good year, using a potentially lethal weapon should be banned forever. Both should be punished but in a different way. PAnama Lewis and Luis Resto got a life ban for the use of plaster and removing padding in gloves, why would MArgarito, who did something as severe, should receive less?

You dodged these points before, hope you will not try to dodge them again if you decide to persist in your non-sense.

[erics44]

aswell, everyone seems to be saying that the drug cheats are alright coz it isnt as bad as what margarito did

so if someone came along a did something worse would margarito be alright?

No. Steroid abuse should be sentenced with one year off the ring and a fine and a repeated offense could be life time ban or a couple of years, using a dangerous weapon in the ring should mean an automatic life ban, a la Lewis-Resto.

using steroid is a dangerous weapon

Much less than using brass knuckles.

youre wrong

but even if it was less its still a massive advantage over a fighter that is clean

Absolutely not. Your ignorance and refusal to admit the facts are just annoying, brass knuckle = potentially lethal weapons, steroids aren't in the same repertoire. Are you trying to say that Luis Resto and Panama Lewis shouldn't have been ban for life for what they did and that a one year suspension like the one Margarito had should have been ok?

this is exactly what i could say to you dude

i am not denying loading your gloves is a leathal, its a dirty thing margs did

but so is taking steroids, the physical advantages it gives you are massive

i dont know how to put my point across any more than that

and the point of the thread is, is that its a dirty way to cheat just like loading your gloves, and im not saying margarito should be liked or that his ban or anyone elses ban was right or wrong, im just saying they should be treated the same as steroid users

Have you ever done physics classes for god's sake? On your own assessment, Steroids can enhance perhaps from 10-15% the strength of somebody. Do you know what is the level of pressure in brass knuckles? it triples or more the force of impact, which is.... infinitely more damageable than Steroids.

You do not seem to get the point about how more it is damageable.

Also, spare me the bullshit that a cheater is a cheater, there is different levels of severity, steroids should be banned for a good year, using a potentially lethal weapon should be banned forever. Both should be punished but in a different way. PAnama Lewis and Luis Resto got a life ban for the use of plaster and removing padding in gloves, why would MArgarito, who did something as severe, should receive less?

You dodged these points before, hope you will not try to dodge them again if you decide to persist in your non-sense.

why are you so upset dude, chill

the weighting system is designed so that boxers entering the ring are as evenly matched as possible, i personally think that 10-15% advantage for a boxer (remember that could be strength, power, speed and stamina) when he is already at the peak of his physical condition could be leathal

you obviously dont

maybe we should continue this another day bro, you seem a little too angry

p.s. i havent dodged anything, i have answered the same question and said the same thing (in a different way) over and over again