Non-British perspective: Froch easier to like than was Calzaghe

[p4pking]

Froch and Calzaghe are both bum fighter like black Lacy.

[Dia bando]

Froch and Calzaghe are both bum fighter like black Lacy.

You are taking the piss.

[p4pking]

No, Kessler are cheated against both English bum. Only he are easy fighter to like.

[BIG H]

This is why it's so easy to like Froch

[Althugz]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

[TitoFan]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

Uh-oh........ I'm screwed.

[Dia bando]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

Thank you your cheque is in the post

[Fenster]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

As I said in the previous post - It's not about winning it's just about alternative opinions. I merely stated a counter argument to your claim that Froch now ranks above Calzaghe.

To your credit, I saw Glyn Leach (Boxing Monthly editor) post on twitter that he now believes Froch is ahead of Calzaghe in the supermiddle standings (as well as some other journos). So I was wrong to call your argument nonsensical.

Although I do believe my argument is superior. Fact.

[Althugz]

I did start writing up a rather long response but I realise that interwebz victory means more to Mr Bando, Fenster and the physically and intellectually complexed Greenbeanz so I wrote an apology note instead :-

Joe Calzaghe is the greatest and most popular fighter that ever lived - Bando, Fenster and Greenbeanz are the boxing gods of the interwebz! I apologise for speaking out of turn about the deity Joe Calzaghe. May my sins not go unpunished and death to all who challenge Joe Calzaghes superiority! What a fool I have been..I see the light

As I said in the previous post - It's not about winning it's just about alternative opinions. I merely stated a counter argument to your claim that Froch now ranks above Calzaghe.

To your credit, I saw Glyn Leach (Boxing Monthly editor) post on twitter that he now believes Froch is ahead of Calzaghe in the supermiddle standings (as well as some other journos). So I was wrong to call your argument nonsensical.

Although I do believe my argument is superior. Fact.

I'm glad you can admit to slinging the first insult by calling my perfectly valid argument "nonsensical"

Opinions are perfectly fine - and many oppose my own on this matter. Just haven't heard one on this forum that makes me even think twice about JC's legacy. Unfortunately the counter argument of "Jackass" and "Waif" don't seem to do it either. Strange that..

[Fenster]

Althugz,

Hold up a minute...How is calling an argument "nonsense" a personal insult? I gave valid reasons why I believed it was nonsense. Nothing I said wavered from the topic and in no way was a personal insult aimed at anyone.That's not my style.

It's simply the way debates work. I counter the argument and the onus is back on you.

I still believe Froch over Calzaghe is wrong. However, I understand the angle people are coming from

[TitoFan]

Althugz,

Hold up a minute...How is calling an argument "nonsense" a personal insult? I gave valid reasons why I believed it was nonsense. Nothing I said wavered from the topic and in no way was a personal insult aimed at anyone.That's not my style.

It's simply the way debates work. I counter the argument and the onus is back on you.

I still believe Froch over Calzaghe is wrong. However, I understand the angle people are coming from

Uhh.... you forgot to add "Fact" there, sport.

Seriously tho, this has become a very heated and emotional feeding frenzy here. Look back at the title of my thread. It says very clearly: "Froch easier to like than was Calzaghe." No more... no less. So spewing out all of Calzaghe's stats is truly unnecessary here, don't you think? And I stand by my statement, as I'm sure lots of other Calzaghe non-sympathizers will agree.

And you seemed to have an issue with my point regarding Calzaghe's style of fighting, whereupon you immediately brought up his "however-many-stoppages" he's had. If you were truly being objective about it, I'm sure you'd agree with my point regarding Calzaghe's pitty-patter style, and how it makes for ugly, non-crowd-pleasing fights. But since you're a "big bad MOD", and like to spew out all your opinions with your signature "Fact" line..... you think you can ramrod your opinion down people's throats. By the way... that IS a fact. Thankfully, not everyone backs down from your overbearing style.



But hey.... no problem. That's what this forum's all about. People disagreeing all the time. Otherwise, where would the fun be? Hell, if I had a dollar for everytime I got into an argument with someone around here, I'd be retired by now.

Oh...... and Calzaghe's undefeated record doesn't mean shit to me, as I'm sure it doesn't mean shit to most true boxing fans. Why? Because it does not include the plethora of career-defining and/or great opponents that really define a fighter's career. Sorry Calzaghe fans. No hate involved here. Just an honest opinion. Slapping the shit out of Peter Manfredo doesn't do it for me.

Carry on.

[Kirkland Laing]

He apparently never learned the proper way to throw a punch, where you put your whole body into it, and turn it over.

Watch some of his early fights. He used to knock everybody out in his early career. he punched just fine back then but he kept breaking bones in his hands and developed serious problems with both of them, especially the left hand. So he changed his style and threw punches to score points, not KO people. Sop really he deserves extra credit for going from a knockout artist to a different style of fighting.

[Fenster]

TitoFan,

I honestly have no idea how ending a sentence with "fact" could upset someone so much? Just a week ago I let you in on the JOKE that it stems from a HUMOROUS thread, and yet once again you bring it up.

People like you deserve to be ridiculed. Fact.

What issue did I have with you? It's IRONIC (look that up) that YOU could coach a man that won 200 fights that he is punching INCORRECTLY!!! Even if he was it certainly didn't harm him did it?

Fact.

Fact.

Fact.

[TitoFan]

He apparently never learned the proper way to throw a punch, where you put your whole body into it, and turn it over.

Watch some of his early fights. He used to knock everybody out in his early career. he punched just fine back then but he kept breaking bones in his hands and developed serious problems with both of them, especially the left hand. So he changed his style and threw punches to score points, not KO people. Sop really he deserves extra credit for going from a knockout artist to a different style of fighting.

Wow... didn't know that, thanks. While it's admirable that he would adapt his fighting style to his brittle hands, the fact is he went on to what you could call Olympic-style boxing, where nothing else matters other than the amount of punches landed. Except in the Olympics they don't count slaps, either. The punch must be delivered with the white portion of the glove. So Calzaghe managed to continue his pro boxing career while adapting to brittle hands. Admirable, but not fan-friendly.

[TitoFan]

TitoFan,

I honestly have no idea how ending a sentence with "fact" could upset someone so much? Just a week ago I let you in on the JOKE that it stems from a HUMOROUS thread, and yet once again you bring it up.

People like you deserve to be ridiculed. Fact.

What issue did I have with you? It's IRONIC (look that up) that YOU could coach a man that won 200 fights that he is punching INCORRECTLY!!! Even if he was it certainly didn't harm him did it?

Fact.

Fact.

Fact.

It doesn't upset me, sport. You're giving yourself WAY too much credit.
Fact.