Roy Jones vs. Tyson Fury

[johnsebastianmiran]

There is an old saying that I personally had a hard time with until the calender brought visions of Father Time sitting on a Harley. Roy had his day and he's over forty and the last time he was any good was when he beat The Octopus John Ruiz. You can be the Lightweight Champion on the world and have a truck driver of two hundred fiftty pounds or more sit on your head during a street fight but like some people say, size matters. The last time I saw skill overcome bulk before Roy Jones and Ruiz, there was Larry Holmes and Mike Spinks. Some people thought the Larry won the rematch but he never should have said anything about the icon Rocky Marciano not being good enough to carry his jock strap. The most important comment I can make here is not about size but severely diminished skills of Roy Jones Jr. and the fact that time forgives nobody and I'm still a fan and even someone as untested as Fury can hurt Roy.

[ross]

I think more people on this forum are starting to twig that Fury likes to get a response and that him stating he wants to fight Jones was done just to annoy people.

Beating Jones holds no value to anyone of any level at any weight now.

[johnsebastianmiran]

Ross you may not hear this as often as you should but you are absolutely right.

[Master]

Ross you may not hear this as often as you should but you are absolutely right.

I keep telling everyone Ross is right but they do not listen to me either.

[AdamGB]

This is why Ross is so retarded. He's comparing a clearly weak chinned Fury (who has been hurt pretty much with every punch landed on him) to the granite chin o Ali. He is a fucking retard who is so biased to fighters he likes.

And yes Jones probably stops Huck. Particularly a Huck at the time he fought Cunningham. Huck is getting better but as a boxer his skills are so limited. I love watching him and he as been in battles but Jones was too slick and would hurt Huck with counters and combos

Before Ali fought Liston he was dropped hard by 180lb british journeyman Henry Cooper who had a less than 50% KO ratio and 195lb Sonny Banks.

Fury has been dropped by an ripped 210lb former world champ fighter and another weighing 232lb both 6,3" not light heavyweight journeymen.

Im not comparing Fury to Ali you fucking morons! Like you said, Ali had a granite chin but he was thought to be very vulnerable as he was getting hurt and dropped and awarded gift decisions against very small heavyweights that werent even punchers.

'Ripped'? So what? Ripped? Like Jeff Lacy?
If a heavyweight weighs in at 210lbs then it means he is just a cruiserweight that didn't sweat the 10lbs of water

Yea the kid really rates Cunningham , wonder if its because he was mauled into submission by fury ?

Why are you discrediting that victory? Fury beat him with a clean punch,fair and square

You must be talking about a different fight?

[ross]

Ross you may not hear this as often as you should but you are absolutely right.

Ross you may not hear this as often as you should but you are absolutely right.

I keep telling everyone Ross is right but they do not listen to me either.

They will see

[Hulk]

I didn't think this thread would have such legs. 5 pages now. Damn!


Thanks Ross! lol

[ross]

I didn't think this thread would have such legs. 5 pages now. Damn!


Thanks Ross! lol

If you want pages and pages just keep putting Tyson Fury in the title and you will get all the sissy sulkers coming in and telling you how crap Fury is.

[Silkeyjoe]

I didn't think this thread would have such legs. 5 pages now. Damn!


Thanks Ross! lol

If you want pages and pages just keep putting Tyson Fury in the title and you will get all the sissy sulkers coming in and telling you how crap Fury is.

And Furys bum buddy defending him

[ross]

I didn't think this thread would have such legs. 5 pages now. Damn!


Thanks Ross! lol

If you want pages and pages just keep putting Tyson Fury in the title and you will get all the sissy sulkers coming in and telling you how crap Fury is.

And Furys bum buddy defending him

Defending?

Grow the fuck up! You lot are like little kids in a playground in here. Its popular to bash Fury but what for?

Come on. As a boxer,in his career what has he really done to upset you lot of little bitches?

Has he pulled out of 3 fights in a sngle year costing fans thousands? Has he conned idiots in to paying for a pay per view to fight Harrison

Has he slapped anyone at a staredown, spat water in someones face, or even bitten anyone?

Been found buying HGH and headbutting the shit out of opponents?

Has he bored us all to fucking death and held the titles ransom while fighting complete nobodies?

I could go on but am genuinely now fucking fed up of reading such pathetic shit by such a bunch of piss face wankers. Getting called a dick head etc just for saying I think you lot are big time underestimating someone who is doing his best to actually fight and actually entertain. You'v all now even managed to accuse Fury of not fighting often enough when you know full fucking well that was Hayes fault and that Fury had the busiest schedule of any of the top ten heavies up to the point he beat Cunningham.

[Silkeyjoe]

I didn't think this thread would have such legs. 5 pages now. Damn!


Thanks Ross! lol

If you want pages and pages just keep putting Tyson Fury in the title and you will get all the sissy sulkers coming in and telling you how crap Fury is.

And Furys bum buddy defending him

Defending?

Grow the fuck up! You lot are like little kids in a playground in here. Its popular to bash Fury but what for?

Come on. As a boxer,in his career what has he really done to upset you lot of little bitches?

Has he pulled out of 3 fights in a sngle year costing fans thousands? Has he conned idiots in to paying for a pay per view to fight Harrison

Has he slapped anyone at a staredown, spat water in someones face, or even bitten anyone?

Been found buying HGH and headbutting the shit out of opponents?

Has he bored us all to fucking death and held the titles ransom while fighting complete nobodies?

I could go on but am genuinely now fucking fed up of reading such pathetic shit by such a bunch of piss face wankers. Getting called a dick head etc just for saying I think you lot are big time underestimating someone who is doing his best to actually fight and actually entertain. You'v all now even managed to accuse Fury of not fighting often enough when you know full fucking well that was Hayes fault and that Fury had the busiest schedule of any of the top ten heavies up to the point he beat Cunningham.

A fighter who talks shite is gonna get criticised, especially if he backs it up with shite performances. He labels himself the best heavyweight ever of course people are gonna call him on it and judging by his performances hes a long way off. How do you not get that? Are you just completely retarded? Hes like a big fat white version of broner.

[p4pking]

I don't care about Fury talking smack, I think he's pretty entertaining and has a sort of self deprecating quality to his persona, which is cool. He has a lot more sense and class than Broner despite also being an idiot imo. My feeling is that he just isn't great, there are at least 5 or 6 guys who aren't champions that I'd pick to flatten him, and it would be nice to see him fight one of them. Having said that, you've got to feel for the guy being dicked around by Haye for the better part of a year.

[Dark Lord Al]

I didn't think this thread would have such legs. 5 pages now. Damn!


Thanks Ross! lol

If you want pages and pages just keep putting Tyson Fury in the title and you will get all the sissy sulkers coming in and telling you how crap Fury is.

And Furys bum buddy defending him

Defending?

Grow the fuck up! You lot are like little kids in a playground in here. Its popular to bash Fury but what for?

Come on. As a boxer,in his career what has he really done to upset you lot of little bitches?

Has he pulled out of 3 fights in a sngle year costing fans thousands? Has he conned idiots in to paying for a pay per view to fight Harrison

Has he slapped anyone at a staredown, spat water in someones face, or even bitten anyone?

Been found buying HGH and headbutting the shit out of opponents?

Has he bored us all to fucking death and held the titles ransom while fighting complete nobodies?

I could go on but am genuinely now fucking fed up of reading such pathetic shit by such a bunch of piss face wankers. Getting called a dick head etc just for saying I think you lot are big time underestimating someone who is doing his best to actually fight and actually entertain. You'v all now even managed to accuse Fury of not fighting often enough when you know full fucking well that was Hayes fault and that Fury had the busiest schedule of any of the top ten heavies up to the point he beat Cunningham.

Firstly son , you are the childish one which is pretty much the general opinion here , but you fail to take any notice. You blindly defend anything fury says or does like a fanboy.
The reason I find fault with fury is simple , he has a big mouth and in my opinion and many others here we with he has no power and a glass jaw.
If fury ends up as master of the boxing world then I for one will happily say that you where right and I was wrong.
But trying to big up fighters like Cunningham and Johnson , is well pathetic , yes fury won the fights and he may learn from them , but as far as logic goes the evidence is - fury got dropped by a light punching former CW , dropped by a relative novice earlier in his career , and has show little punch power , so its not bias is just most peoples opinions here that when he fights a big puncher at top level he will be knocked out.
You call the guy childish then hurl you rattle out of your pram.
You rate fury which is fine , most here don't , so lets see who is right when the chips are down , that seems fair doesn't it ?

[ross]

So why do you not throw the same shit at the other "contenders"?

The two fat lumps who are scheduled to fight for the vacant WBC both have major flaws. Areola has been beaten by a former cruiser weight, got beat up. Stiverne has already struggled with journemen, getting held to a draw and being stopped. Haye got stopped and dropped by cruisers and super middles and looked shite against Wlad (why anyone thinks we need him back is a joke). Wilder has been dropped by light punching journeymen, got dropped by the first fucking jab in his last fight, which was his 30th fighting someone Fury beat in his 16th! Pulev also just got dropped by a complete nobody in his last fight and looked very mediocre against Thompson who was even fatter than hed ever been. Wlad has just fought probably the most boring heavyweight fight ever and to me looks terrified now. Chisora is getting hurt and wobbled by absolute nobodies now. Adamek got a gift decision against the same former cruiserweight that Fury sparked!

What I am saying is there is far more to complain about the other heavies around than there is Fury. What you dont like is his gob. Fair enough but the criticism he gets for wanting big fights and fighting like he wants to win is not fair. It took Fury to create the first massive pay per view heavyweight fight in years.

I dont think hes unbeatable I am just fed up reading the same shit all the time. If Fury wasnt in the division the division would be utter shit. For those who have complained for years that the division is boring you finally have an entertaining fighter that is going to be hard to beat, yes because of his size but he can also fight and has proven heart. Whats wrong with that?

[Dark Lord Al]

So why do you not throw the same shit at the other "contenders"?

The two fat lumps who are scheduled to fight for the vacant WBC both have major flaws. Areola has been beaten by a former cruiser weight, got beat up. Stiverne has already struggled with journemen, getting held to a draw and being stopped. Haye got stopped and dropped by cruisers and super middles and looked shite against Wlad (why anyone thinks we need him back is a joke). Wilder has been dropped by light punching journeymen, got dropped by the first fucking jab in his last fight, which was his 30th fighting someone Fury beat in his 16th! Pulev also just got dropped by a complete nobody in his last fight and looked very mediocre against Thompson who was even fatter than hed ever been. Wlad has just fought probably the most boring heavyweight fight ever and to me looks terrified now. Chisora is getting hurt and wobbled by absolute nobodies now. Adamek got a gift decision against the same former cruiserweight that Fury sparked!

What I am saying is there is far more to complain about the other heavies around than there is Fury. What you dont like is his gob. Fair enough but the criticism he gets for wanting big fights and fighting like he wants to win is not fair. It took Fury to create the first massive pay per view heavyweight fight in years.

I dont think hes unbeatable I am just fed up reading the same shit all the time. If Fury wasnt in the division the division would be utter shit. For those who have complained for years that the division is boring you finally have an entertaining fighter that is going to be hard to beat, yes because of his size but he can also fight and has proven heart. Whats wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with it at all , I am basing my opinion on what I see , I don't think the division has great depth , but I just don't see it in fury , he has a weak chin and no power , yes he get us all talking , however that's all we are doing.
So lets just see what unfolds.
You shouldn't take it so personally , you are not in the majority with you view but life would be dull if we all agreed.
Also ross if you want to start a thread about any other contenders please do , and im sure we all will be happy to discuss their weak and strong points , you take the fury stuff so personally , he is just a fighter who is being judged based on what we see.