US inequality of wealth....shocking statistics

[Master]

You can't put a giant word salad on toast.Jam on the other hand is great on toast. Jam toasts companion and friend like a long term gay couple without a dog.Jam.

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Green is obsessed with toast in all of his posts.

[Kirkland Laing]

Alright Cunty McCunterson, how's about you explain how Obamacare deincentivizing people going to work is going to "fix" this wealth gap issue you seem to be so fucking worried about?

Lots more people will have health care. The difference between being covered when you have a medical emergency and losing what little you have obviously is the singlemost thing that can be done to narrow the wealth gap. There'll still be about 50 million Americans, mostly working poor, with zero health coverage but Obamacare is better than nothing.

People are disincentivised to work because once they go over a certain amount of earnings they fail to qualify for Obamacare. So they'll stay under a certain earnings threshold by cutting some hours, and most of these people we're talking about second or third low-paid jobs. So Obamacare will create vacancies for lots of low-paying part-time jobs. Unfortunately in modern-day America employers will have no problem finding replacements and for the replacements at least their new second or third jobs will help brisge their individual wealth inequality gap.

[Kirkland Laing]

Teen unemployment 21%, black teen unemployment 38%....that's got to be great for "income disparity" eh comrade?

It's good to see you so concerned about those black teens Lyle. Obama hasn't done nearly as much as he could do for unemployed people but that's partly due to the fact that everything he's tried has been blocked by the GOP. The GOP are currently blocking the continued payment of unemployment benefits to all the people their policies were making unemployed at the rate of nearly a million people a month when Obama took office.

[El Kabong]

People are disincentivised to work because once they go over a certain amount of earnings they fail to qualify for Obamacare.

They would fail to qualify for SUBSIDIES not "Obamacare"....how that would decrease an INCOME or WEALTH gap is beyond me. I am happy that you believe people will leave their jobs flipping burgers at minimum wage and magically make millions of dollars, but it's not going to happen that way....in fact some citizens STILL won't be covered by any kind of healthcare, but heck it's only the CBO that says that.

It's good to see you so concerned about those black teens Lyle. Obama hasn't done nearly as much as he could do for unemployed people but that's partly due to the fact that everything he's tried has been blocked by the GOP. The GOP are currently blocking the continued payment of unemployment benefits to all the people their policies were making unemployed at the rate of nearly a million people a month when Obama took office.

Yes blocked by the GOP. Why who knew the GOP could be so fucking powerful when they only held 1 house of Congress. You are fucking pathetic, "He could have done more without the GOP" oh I'm sorry I thought President Obama was going to be Mr. "Bring Both Parties together" I thought he was going to HAPPILY reach across the isle and get deals done........but when President Obama HIMSELF (ooooh capitalized words, hear that dog whistle yet?) says he "Will NOT compromise" and he "will NOT negotiate" well I guess he's showing what a true leader is right? W worked with the democrats a lot more than Barry has worked with the GOP but that's probably because racism you know....not because he's just trying to get his way all the time and being petulant about it. No wonder YOU like him.


And I worry about unemployment especially among at risk teens because if there are more teens who are unemployed then the likelihood they fall into ooooh I don't know some kind of gang activity increases and crime is a burden on society not something that drives an economy.


Yeah Obama is really growing the economy at a frightening pace isn't he? Does that water you tote for Barry ever get heavy?

[Kirkland Laing]

If you've got no health insurance but then you've suddenly got insurance you're effectively a lot wealthier.

The GOP have been blocking everything Obama has tried to do since he took office.

McConnell The Master | New Republic

The New New Deal: Why the GOP Became the Party of No | TIME.com

You only need to hold one house to block everything you want to block, other than crucial things like the debt limit where the GOP just caved again today thankfully.

Now Obama hasn't been able to do very much due to obstructionism but he could at least have been talking about what he wanted to do to try and explain to the public why the economy is so fucked up right now. He didn't do it in his first term to avoid being painted as a socialist, he was like every first term prez primarily concerned with getting re-elected. Now he can start to talk about it even if he can't do anything about it, hopefully he'll keep talking about inequality.

[El Kabong]

Obama hasn't been able to do much? Executive Orders anyone? He's rolled out Obamacare in an unconstitutional way.

Sing yourself another lullaby baby kirkland

[Kirkland Laing]

Obama hasn't been able to do much? Executive Orders anyone? He's rolled out Obamacare in an unconstitutional way.

Sing yourself another lullaby baby kirkland

Ah right, so you now want him to turn into a socialist dictator and unilaterally decide to overrule both houses of congress and the judiciary and borrow trillions of dollars to put Americans back to work, effectively re-regulate the financial sector, massively raise taxes on top earners and corporations etc etc. I can only guess what you'd be saying if he'd attempted something like that.

Obamacare hasn't been done unconstitutionally.

[El Kabong]

Ah right, so you now want him to turn into a socialist dictator and unilaterally decide to overrule both houses of congress and the judiciary and borrow trillions of dollars to put Americans back to work, effectively re-regulate the financial sector, massively raise taxes on top earners and corporations etc etc. I can only guess what you'd be saying if he'd attempted something like that.

Obamacare hasn't been done unconstitutionally.

He doesn't have to "turn into" a socialist dictator, I'm telling you that's what he is.

The random changes to when Obamare is to be the law of the land is unconstitutional.
The House and Senate passed The Affordable Care Act and Obama signed off on it to make it law....the changes made to it were NOT the agreed upon legislation, the delays enforced were NOT agreed upon in the passing of the bill and have only been brought about because it's politically advantageous to Democrats at risk to not have to suffer from voters who don't care for Obamacare.


You have no fucking clue about our Constitution apparently

[Kirkland Laing]

Ah right, so you now want him to turn into a socialist dictator and unilaterally decide to overrule both houses of congress and the judiciary and borrow trillions of dollars to put Americans back to work, effectively re-regulate the financial sector, massively raise taxes on top earners and corporations etc etc. I can only guess what you'd be saying if he'd attempted something like that.

Obamacare hasn't been done unconstitutionally.

He doesn't have to "turn into" a socialist dictator, I'm telling you that's what he is.

The random changes to when Obamare is to be the law of the land is unconstitutional.
The House and Senate passed The Affordable Care Act and Obama signed off on it to make it law....the changes made to it were NOT the agreed upon legislation, the delays enforced were NOT agreed upon in the passing of the bill and have only been brought about because it's politically advantageous to Democrats at risk to not have to suffer from voters who don't care for Obamacare.


You have no fucking clue about our Constitution apparently

You eventually agreed a while ago that Obama was actualy a centre right prez. Every example you provided to prove his socialist credentials turned out to be completely wrong. Go back and look the thread up, it's one of the endless threads over the years where you demonstrate the impressive scope and breadth of stuff you haven't got a clue about.

Every single prez has used executive orders to tweak legislation. In recent years they've used it to ratchet up the national security state too.

This has all been explained to you before along with the fact that Obama has used less executive orders than almost any other prez for over a hundred years but all this information has fallen off the little shelf in your head that functions as your brain.

Also, too, politics. It's been explained to you endlessly that there's no real difference between either of the two parties. If you think there are huge differences between the two groups of corporate servants then you're being fooled. Of course as has been endlessly documented you're one of the people they can fool all of the time.

[El Kabong]

It's not the AMOUNT of executive orders it's what it covers.


When did I ever say Obama was "Center Right"?

[Master]

It's not the AMOUNT of executive orders it's what it covers.


When did I ever say Obama was "Center Right"?

Kirkland will show you a pie chart just exactly when you said it.

[walrus]

Obama has been overstepping his executive powers for years. He changes legislation passed by congress at will. One should not say, well that guy did it as well. Obama operated on its Bushes fault for five years.

[Kirkland Laing]

WASHINGTON -- President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution. (Full article: 3648 words)


Bush challenges hundreds of laws - The Boston Globe




The latest manufactured outrage in America created to fool the people you can fool all/some of the time is that Obama put back part of a law that affects 2% of US small busnesses by 12 months. This is apparently evidence that America has become a tyranny.


No.


This is exactly the kind of thing executive orders are for, as determined by various Supreme Court precedents.

[Kirkland Laing]

It's not the AMOUNT of executive orders it's what it covers.


When did I ever say Obama was "Center Right"?

You made the hilarious claim that Obama was a socialist dictator. I asked you to back the claim up and every claim you made turned out to be laughable. It's fallen off your little shelf mate.

[Kirkland Laing]

It's not the AMOUNT of executive orders it's what it covers.


When did I ever say Obama was "Center Right"?

Kirkland will show you a pie chart just exactly when you said it.

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