Dissecting Ali hate

[El Kabong]

So....... in the United States south of the 50's and 60's...... Ali was NEVER discriminated against because of being black.

Hmmm....



(BTW, that was a lousy ghetto impersonation).

Say what you want about Ali, say what you want about Bill, but I'll be God damned if you DARE call Kentucky Southern!

Hey don't fight ME.
Fight these guys.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

Did they secede?

No


And THEREFORE they aren't Southern...neither is West Virginia

[Master]

The only thing the bothers me about Ali is the way he treated Fraizer man in fact the way he was tried in those times by everyone kinda erks me. That being said there is not much else i mean the draft well they did not want him then when he is champ all the sudden he is drafted. I mean how do you feel about a country who does not see you as a person really i mean the man wins a gold medal for this country and the fuckers wont serve him food. I mean Ali was no saint but to be black in the 60's was pretty fucked i mean did he do the right thing all the time no but i can understand some of his choices.

1960

Cassius Clay didn't win the Gold Medal for the United States Boxing Team or America, he won it for

"Himself"

Of course he won it for himself boxing in a ring is not a team sport.Bill, you get stupider everyday.

[brocktonblockbust]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

[Master]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.

[brocktonblockbust]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.

A mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?

[Master]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.

A mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?

He has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.

[TitoFan]

So....... in the United States south of the 50's and 60's...... Ali was NEVER discriminated against because of being black.

Hmmm....



(BTW, that was a lousy ghetto impersonation).

Say what you want about Ali, say what you want about Bill, but I'll be God damned if you DARE call Kentucky Southern!

Hey don't fight ME.
Fight these guys.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

Did they secede?

No


And THEREFORE they aren't Southern...neither is West Virginia

Ok, whatever. You'll have to take that up with the U.S. Census Bureau.
Meanwhile, I'll fix it.......


So....... in the United States south Kentucky of the 50's and 60's...... Ali was NEVER discriminated against because of being black.

Hmmm.......

[Master]

I have watched the film Happy and people were discriminated against.

[Bill Paxtom]

The only thing the bothers me about Ali is the way he treated Fraizer man in fact the way he was tried in those times by everyone kinda erks me. That being said there is not much else i mean the draft well they did not want him then when he is champ all the sudden he is drafted. I mean how do you feel about a country who does not see you as a person really i mean the man wins a gold medal for this country and the fuckers wont serve him food. I mean Ali was no saint but to be black in the 60's was pretty fucked i mean did he do the right thing all the time no but i can understand some of his choices.

1960

Cassius Clay didn't win the Gold Medal for the United States Boxing Team or America, he won it for

"Himself"

Of course he won it for himself boxing in a ring is not a team sport.Bill, you get stupider everyday.

It was 'you' Master, who said Cassius Clay 'won' a Gold Medal for his Country.

WOW, aren't you the Pot calling Cassius Clay 'Black'.

I was merely correcting you .......................... Again As Usual !!!

[beenKOed]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.

A mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?

He has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.

We honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.

[Master]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.

A mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?

He has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.

We honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.

Human beings are only human.

[Bill Paxtom]

~ What Are Friends For ~

Malcolm X > "Can I count on you Brother Cassius."

Cassius X > "Brother Malcolm, I'll be right next to you, every step of the way."

Malcom X > "I want you with me Brother Cassius. Side by side."

Cassisu X > "But you go first, right.

[Master]

~ What Are Friends For ~

Malcolm X > "Can I count on you Brother Cassius."

Cassius X > "Brother Malcolm, I'll be right with you, every step of the way."

Malcom X > "I want you with me Brother Cassius. Side by side, and every step of the way."

Cassisu X > "But you go first, right.

Like you would take a bullet for Malcolm X.

[Beanz]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.

A mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?

He has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.

We honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.

Not really. It's more like both all three of you , have some kind of fixation. So the guy is/was a hypocrite. You think he was the first and last ? He had a big mouth. You think that is something rare in boxing ? He treated Joe Frazier abysmally. I and countless others love Joe precisely because he showed what kind of man he was by rising above such bullshit. It just gold plates his bravery and fortitude inside and outside the ring refusing to bite back when Ali dangled such a clumsy twisted hook in front of him.

This is not just your local boozer, it's a boxing forum. How many interviews, fights, reports, interviews and biographies do you think we have all seen? You are preaching to the choir. Even those who (IMHO) wrongly rate him too highly inside the ring are all quick to acknowledge his shortcomings outside of it. We get it, you don't like the guy, but nobody deserves to struggle physically like he does for every minute of every day. Yes the general public and the media get sentimental and mawkish but how pointless and irrelevant is it when he is suffering like he is to get hung up about him changing his name 51 friggin years ago. Thread after thread after thread. Nobody speaks more about Ali than those who apparently have no time for him.

Bloody hell it gets boring.

[beenKOed]

Bill does not like Ali very much because Ali was led around like a donkey and spouted bullcrap that NOI fed him/ was cruel to fellow blacks at a time when blacks were having a difficult enough time as it was. They sure didn't need him to run them down even further with racial slurs and insulting language

Yes the second part is true for which he has apologised, everyone makes mistakes.

A mistake is something we make once or twice like an error. But Muhammad Ali continue to run down fellow black fighters for a great number of years. If he was supposed to champion black rights how could he in the same breath be calling fellow blacks monkeys and gorillas and ugly bears??. Do you not see a conflict of principle there?

He has apologised for his behaviour. Give it a rest.

We honestly can't help it because many of you keep telling us what an outstanding human being Muhammad Ali is.

Not really. It's more like both all three of you , have some kind of fixation. So the guy is/was a hypocrite. You think he was the first and last ? He had a big mouth. You think that is something rare in boxing ? He treated Joe Frazier abysmally. I and countless others love Joe precisely because he showed what kind of man he was by rising above such bullshit. It just gold plates his bravery and fortitude inside and outside the ring refusing to bite back when Ali dangled such a clumsy twisted hook in front of him.

This is not just your local boozer, it's a boxing forum. How many interviews, fights, reports, interviews and biographies do you think we have all seen? You are preaching to the choir. Even those who (IMHO) wrongly rate him too highly inside the ring are all quick to acknowledge his shortcomings outside of it. We get it, you don't like the guy, but nobody deserves to struggle physically like he does for every minute of every day. Yes the general public and the media get sentimental and mawkish but how pointless and irrelevant is it when he is suffering like he is to get hung up about him changing his name 51 friggin years ago. Thread after thread after thread. Nobody speaks more about Ali than those who apparently have no time for him.

Bloody hell it gets boring.

Everything you just said is pure BS. You sir, are a bullshit artist. Speak truly or don't talk to me.