Who is the best and worst of britains 12 world champions?

[Primo Carnera]

Not sure about any of those answers, but I can't be fucked to copy all those quotes in and make a 3 million word post.
Out of Curiousity Ross, what are your thoughts on the rumour doing the rounds in Europe that Wlad threw the fight?

[Silkeyjoe]

Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.

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Its easier for a fighter to land a jab when he has a height advantage. Furys movement is based on being able to land from distance. Being the same size as his opponent makes this harder. If he was shorter then Wlad he would have to get inside as Wlad would likely land the punches from outside making it harder for Fury to win.

Its not degrading him, hes trained his abilities to suit his physical attributes. Its like saying Whittaker wouldnt be as good as he was if he didnt have good reflexes!

David Haye moves better then Fury in my opinion and has better boxing skills. In saying that he wont beat Wlad (and possibly Fury) because hes too small.

Haye would never beat Wlad because he's not good enough not because hes too small. He managedto get a decision against 7,2" Valuev!! Because Valuev was awfull!

[IamInuit]

It really is a sort of British invasion not seen since perhaps the late 80’s and early 90’s and perhaps more dominant an invasion with a pretty deep pool in waiting.

These will come in no real order but I do think Brook is the best of the lot.


Brook-In my view the class of the field. The whole field not just Britain. Once again though he’s just not being active enough. He might be a little lazy and in it for the money. He could also just be a victim of this getting a belt is enough era. Can’t even get a Khan fight done. Could be more about Khan knowing he gets messed up. Talent wasting away sitting around. Thanks for the blue print Floyd.

[IamInuit]

Degale-Eye test wise he might be the most talented but I think he’s a little vacant upstairs and maybe a little prone to melt down and as a result could get beat by guys he shouldn’t get beat by. Having said that he sure showed up against Dirrell. Perhaps that loss to Groves did have some long term effects upstairs. I have visions of him falling apart though. Its still a fairly deep division but again with champions that do not seem keen on sorting it out. Definitely a division top 5.

[IamInuit]

Quigg-Tidy fighter in my view and I reckon he stops Frampton. . I’d love to see Rigo and him tie one on. Quigg reminds me of Roman Gonzalez a little with his offense and punch selection. I think he makes Rigo fight and opens it up. Nice style clash imo. Would also like to see a Santa Cruz showdown. Scott is in the top 3 in the world at 122

[IamInuit]

Saunders-I was really impressed with the Lee fight. I saw a side of Saunders I was a little blinded by which was his solid D. Head movement, slipping punches, lateral movement, shoulder rolling etc* etc and some real tricky shots and counters delivered. I hope he fights the Kazak but he has to want to or its all for not. If he wants to wait and milk it a bit so be it. That kid with the famous dad is going to come callin.He's also a top 3 in the world guy at 160. Love to see him and Jacobs. Wide open division outside of Genghis Golovkin.

[IamInuit]

Smith-He’s a pretty good fighter but he’s in a fairly top heavy division. He may beat the Trouts and Clotteys of the world but I don’t see him sticking with the Charlo's, Andrade or Lara. He’s in tough over the long haul. Tough solid guy but I don't see him as a world beater

[IamInuit]

Crolla-An overachiever. Lightweight looks competitive but its not all that deep. Another British showdown between him and Flanagan beckons but he’s got an optional I think so that’s one that could build. I'd go with Terry in a unification. The top 5 or so are pretty steady at 135 and really it’s a division that could change title holders a lot.

[IamInuit]

Selby- Diamond in the ruff this kid. Power is not imperative but he looks like a guy that should have more of it. Skills pay the bills though and he's pretty savvy in that ring. Pretty deep weight area. We want to see the best fight the best and sort it out. Loma, Cruz(assuming he does not go back down), Russell Jr, whoever. Its another fairly good div that seems dormant.

[IamInuit]

Frampton-He's in the top 3 to 5 of his division I believe but he kind of hangs his face in front of his body and he has not looked like the same guy as he was pre Martinez. He looked a little befuddled against Gonzalez but in fairness, that kid would trouble anyone in the division. I don't think he gets off the floor twice against Quigg to win on points. I think Quigg gets him in trouble and stops him. I'm pleasantly surprised that they were able to pull this one off. Its got the makings of a great trilogy.

[IamInuit]

Flanagan-I think he beats Anthony and likewise probably anybody else at 135 presently. He's a big kid and I'd wager he has issues making weight. He might be the toughest guy in the division also but he's beatable too. I doubt Matthews holds out in February but he's a live spoiler fighting in his home town.

[IamInuit]

McDonnell-I believe him to be the best bantam out there including Payano and Haskins. Not sure how he maintains 118 on that lanky frame but its certainly an advantage. A unification and rematch with Haskins is another natural.

[IamInuit]

Haskins-I think he's a top 3 to 5 guy and already beat McDonnell once but what he has against him is age. 32 isn't old these days given the activity levels but its a candle burning at both ends weight class. Maybe he's got Jamies number over 12 rounds. Their previous fight was pretty close.

[IamInuit]

Fury-We can’t downplay what he accomplished but we can’t take it into the stratosphere either. Yes he beat the REAL heavyweight champion but it’s the same heavyweight champion that has been ridiculed for both his legacy and how he attained it for the last 10 years. Yes on paper he’s the heavyweight champion of the world but he most likely gets beat by half of the men Wlad beat because their size and movement won’t be a perfect storm like Wlad was for his body type and style. It’s that simple. If he fought like the guy he just beat, he might beat those shorter busier guys that Wlad did. I don't think he beats Povetkin or Haye. He's as tailor made for them as Wlad was for him. He has the tin but he’s not the best heavyweight. You also have to consider the division itself. He gets bonus points for breathing life into the festivities that’s for sure. That might be the most historic thing about it. Its fragmentation. He says what he means and means what he says and that's refreshing. No party line for this fella. I look forward to see if he's a one hit wonder or not.