Today in Trump

[Master]

The harder Trump is attacked by the state the stronger he becomes within the Republican party to win their vote but the weaker he becomes in becoming president again as the floating voters are less likely to support such a divisive figure.

That is why the Democrats are going after him now with anything and everything.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The harder Trump is attacked by the state the stronger he becomes within the Republican party to win their vote but the weaker he becomes in becoming president again as the floating voters are less likely to support such a divisive figure.

That is why the Democrats are going after him now with anything and everything.

Good points.

[Kirkland Laing]

The harder Trump is attacked by the state the stronger he becomes within the Republican party to win their vote but the weaker he becomes in becoming president again as the floating voters are less likely to support such a divisive figure.

That is why the Democrats are going after him now with anything and everything.

It's not really the Democrats attacking Trump at the minute, the DOJ are doing all the work here. But it isn't political, they're just doing their job which is investigating and prosecuting criminals. You're right about the politics of it though. Trump is ahead and his support is actually increasing:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...57779944828928

and he's far more popular with Republicans than he was at this point in the 2016 election:

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/st...57249625501696



This has to sting a little though. Nobody trusts this fucker to pay his bills, his reputation for honesty and probity is nonexistent yet there are all these foreign governments desperate to give huge deals to his company (which has also recently been convicted of felonies). It's hard to understand:

https://twitter.com/openargs/status/1672330448016654336



Liz Cheney makes a good point:

https://www.rawstory.com/liz-cheney-2661928535/



Not just idiots though, lots of criminals. Here's the CEO of a firm convicted of running the biggest Medicare fraud in history. Instead of still being in jail he's apparently going to run for prez:

https://twitter.com/ScottforFlorida/...62921652551680

Ironically if you took all the huge Social Security and Medicare socialist payments to Florida over the years of it being America's retirement centre, not to mention various federal hurricane etc insurance schemes it would be as poor as West Virginia.

This guy is currently a Florida Senator and the head of the GOP national committee which is a great look for the party of law and order. If he does run for prez he must think the Meatball is toast.





Why would you do this? Seriously? It's too much to give people ten minute breaks in heatwaves?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...reaks-heatwave

[Master]

That is why I said the State is going after Trump but where the Democrats have some influence they will use it but your point is true if Trump is committing crimes then he is giving them the ammunition to take action against him.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The harder Trump is attacked by the state the stronger he becomes within the Republican party to win their vote but the weaker he becomes in becoming president again as the floating voters are less likely to support such a divisive figure.

That is why the Democrats are going after him now with anything and everything.

It's not really the Democrats attacking Trump at the minute, the DOJ are doing all the work here. But it isn't political, they're just doing their job which is investigating and prosecuting criminals. You're right about the politics of it though. Trump is ahead and his support is actually increasing:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...57779944828928

and he's far more popular with Republicans than he was at this point in the 2016 election:

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/st...57249625501696



This has to sting a little though. Nobody trusts this fucker to pay his bills, his reputation for honesty and probity is nonexistent yet there are all these foreign governments desperate to give huge deals to his company (which has also recently been convicted of felonies). It's hard to understand:

https://twitter.com/openargs/status/1672330448016654336



Liz Cheney makes a good point:

https://www.rawstory.com/liz-cheney-2661928535/



Not just idiots though, lots of criminals. Here's the CEO of a firm convicted of running the biggest Medicare fraud in history. Instead of still being in jail he's apparently going to run for prez:

https://twitter.com/ScottforFlorida/...62921652551680

Ironically if you took all the huge Social Security and Medicare socialist payments to Florida over the years of it being America's retirement centre, not to mention various federal hurricane etc insurance schemes it would be as poor as West Virginia.

This guy is currently a Florida Senator and the head of the GOP national committee which is a great look for the party of law and order. If he does run for prez he must think the Meatball is toast.





Why would you do this? Seriously? It's too much to give people ten minute breaks in heatwaves?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...reaks-heatwave

Just doing their job haha yeah when it suits them

[Kirkland Laing]

The harder Trump is attacked by the state the stronger he becomes within the Republican party to win their vote but the weaker he becomes in becoming president again as the floating voters are less likely to support such a divisive figure.

That is why the Democrats are going after him now with anything and everything.

It's not really the Democrats attacking Trump at the minute, the DOJ are doing all the work here. But it isn't political, they're just doing their job which is investigating and prosecuting criminals. You're right about the politics of it though. Trump is ahead and his support is actually increasing:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...57779944828928

and he's far more popular with Republicans than he was at this point in the 2016 election:

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/st...57249625501696



This has to sting a little though. Nobody trusts this fucker to pay his bills, his reputation for honesty and probity is nonexistent yet there are all these foreign governments desperate to give huge deals to his company (which has also recently been convicted of felonies). It's hard to understand:

https://twitter.com/openargs/status/1672330448016654336



Liz Cheney makes a good point:

https://www.rawstory.com/liz-cheney-2661928535/



Not just idiots though, lots of criminals. Here's the CEO of a firm convicted of running the biggest Medicare fraud in history. Instead of still being in jail he's apparently going to run for prez:

https://twitter.com/ScottforFlorida/...62921652551680

Ironically if you took all the huge Social Security and Medicare socialist payments to Florida over the years of it being America's retirement centre, not to mention various federal hurricane etc insurance schemes it would be as poor as West Virginia.

This guy is currently a Florida Senator and the head of the GOP national committee which is a great look for the party of law and order. If he does run for prez he must think the Meatball is toast.





Why would you do this? Seriously? It's too much to give people ten minute breaks in heatwaves?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...reaks-heatwave

Just doing their job haha yeah when it suits them

This is just off the top of my head and I'm sure I'm going to miss a bunch of stuff but Trump's AG Bill Barr declined to prosecute the half dozen instances of obstruction of justice by Trump that Mueller found, attacked mail in voting as fraudulent in the runup to the election with zero evidence and tried to restrict it nationally, set up a special counsel to investigate Mueller (which is done to take away interference by the DOJ in investigations that have a political element) and then travelled with the special counsel to Italy and Britain to berate their intelligence services into giving them information, refused to stop interfering in the investigation, interfered in prosecutions in a bunch of blue states to try anddeflect the blame from Trump for the Trump crime wave, sacked prosecutors in New York for investigating Trump and appointed his own guys, set another appointee after John Kerry on a bullshit investigation and when he came up with nothing appointed another prosecutor to investigate it again, tried to block the Ukraine whistleblower from testifying which led to Trump's first impeachment, had the charges against Michael Flynn dropped even though he'd pled guilty, had Roger Stone's sentence cut and then commuted, blocked several criminal investigations into Trump and Kushner for accepting various sources of foreign money.

Oh and several dozen prosecutors and senior DOJ staff resigned at various points because they didn't want to be involved in decisions they knew were corrupt.

The current Biden guy has so far got a spotless record. There's a bunch of bullshit being thrown at him, all of it to do with the possibility he might have interfered with the investigation of Biden's son but even if that turns out to be true and I'll bet it doesn't just compare it to the list above. Barr blocked or tried to block half a dozen investigations into Trump and the same number into Kushner and all for actual serious stuff. Trump and Kushner walked away with billions with a b of dollars in payments from a range of dictatorships they did favours for while in office and all investigations into them were blocked.

Oh yeah Barr created a special intake system for Giuliani bullshit claims a year before the election. One of these claims about a five million bribe to Biden was investigated by the Trump DOJ in 2020 and is currently being recycled by the GOP because they have nothing else on him.

[Kirkland Laing]

While I am watching Domingo Germán five innings into a perfect game look at this:

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1674227493673267201

Mr. Creosote making a good point about Kushner. There are all sorts of ethics laws preventing Kushner doing what he was doing in the Middle East. Add on the fact that he was part of Kushner Inc. and representing the Trump Organisation which are also huge conflicts of interest, taking money at the time from various regimes to prop up Kushner Inc. which he'd bankrupted by making the worst real estate deal in history and the fact that he'd been denied a security clearance because he was a walking violation of various laws in a senior government position and then add on the various laws broken by him "brokering" a hundred billion Saudi arms deal with various US firms it was unethical and unlawful for them to have him representing them.

But Hunter Biden.

Six innings.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

The harder Trump is attacked by the state the stronger he becomes within the Republican party to win their vote but the weaker he becomes in becoming president again as the floating voters are less likely to support such a divisive figure.

That is why the Democrats are going after him now with anything and everything.

It's not really the Democrats attacking Trump at the minute, the DOJ are doing all the work here. But it isn't political, they're just doing their job which is investigating and prosecuting criminals. You're right about the politics of it though. Trump is ahead and his support is actually increasing:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...57779944828928

and he's far more popular with Republicans than he was at this point in the 2016 election:

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/st...57249625501696



This has to sting a little though. Nobody trusts this fucker to pay his bills, his reputation for honesty and probity is nonexistent yet there are all these foreign governments desperate to give huge deals to his company (which has also recently been convicted of felonies). It's hard to understand:

https://twitter.com/openargs/status/1672330448016654336



Liz Cheney makes a good point:

https://www.rawstory.com/liz-cheney-2661928535/



Not just idiots though, lots of criminals. Here's the CEO of a firm convicted of running the biggest Medicare fraud in history. Instead of still being in jail he's apparently going to run for prez:

https://twitter.com/ScottforFlorida/...62921652551680

Ironically if you took all the huge Social Security and Medicare socialist payments to Florida over the years of it being America's retirement centre, not to mention various federal hurricane etc insurance schemes it would be as poor as West Virginia.

This guy is currently a Florida Senator and the head of the GOP national committee which is a great look for the party of law and order. If he does run for prez he must think the Meatball is toast.





Why would you do this? Seriously? It's too much to give people ten minute breaks in heatwaves?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...reaks-heatwave

Just doing their job haha yeah when it suits them

This is just off the top of my head and I'm sure I'm going to miss a bunch of stuff but Trump's AG Bill Barr declined to prosecute the half dozen instances of obstruction of justice by Trump that Mueller found, attacked mail in voting as fraudulent in the runup to the election with zero evidence and tried to restrict it nationally, set up a special counsel to investigate Mueller (which is done to take away interference by the DOJ in investigations that have a political element) and then travelled with the special counsel to Italy and Britain to berate their intelligence services into giving them information, refused to stop interfering in the investigation, interfered in prosecutions in a bunch of blue states to try anddeflect the blame from Trump for the Trump crime wave, sacked prosecutors in New York for investigating Trump and appointed his own guys, set another appointee after John Kerry on a bullshit investigation and when he came up with nothing appointed another prosecutor to investigate it again, tried to block the Ukraine whistleblower from testifying which led to Trump's first impeachment, had the charges against Michael Flynn dropped even though he'd pled guilty, had Roger Stone's sentence cut and then commuted, blocked several criminal investigations into Trump and Kushner for accepting various sources of foreign money.

Oh and several dozen prosecutors and senior DOJ staff resigned at various points because they didn't want to be involved in decisions they knew were corrupt.

The current Biden guy has so far got a spotless record. There's a bunch of bullshit being thrown at him, all of it to do with the possibility he might have interfered with the investigation of Biden's son but even if that turns out to be true and I'll bet it doesn't just compare it to the list above. Barr blocked or tried to block half a dozen investigations into Trump and the same number into Kushner and all for actual serious stuff. Trump and Kushner walked away with billions with a b of dollars in payments from a range of dictatorships they did favours for while in office and all investigations into them were blocked.

Oh yeah Barr created a special intake system for Giuliani bullshit claims a year before the election. One of these claims about a five million bribe to Biden was investigated by the Trump DOJ in 2020 and is currently being recycled by the GOP because they have nothing else on him.

All true. That's why I said they just do their job when it suits them. I am a political atheist. I don't support either party. It is one big club and you are not on it. They will just do their job when it suits them no matter which side is in there. Try not to be so political. Take a 300,000 ft view and see that both sides are just putting on an act for us to stay divided. Divide and conquer. It is just one big club of elites with a few minor differences. It's one big club and you are not on it. Join the club of political atheists and stop arguing one side over the other. They are all laughing at us and pretending to fight like hulk Hogan and championship wrestling. Are you seriously going to cheer for hulk Hogan as opposed to Jesse Ventura as opposed to The moondogs? It's one big club of Elites they all do business with each other with a few minor differences and squabbling but in the end they stick together to keep the general population fighting and arguing and squabbling in order to keep themselves in power.

[Master]

Trump is part of the one big club you despise yet put him as your saviour Brock.

You should see that from your high up view.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Trump is part of the one big club you despise yet put him as your saviour Brock.

You should see that from your high up view.

I know he is a filthy rich billionaire but he is not part of that same club he is an outsider he was never in politics his entire life how can he be part of the same Washington political group of elites? People like Bill Clinton and George Bush and Obama and Joe Biden are part of the Washington DC elite political group since the 1960s and 1970s. Donald Trump was never part of that group that's why they hate him so much and attack him so much. Even though he is a billionaire he is definitely an outsider in terms of politics. But in terms of being a billionaire I agree he is part of the billionaires club. But there is a difference there and that's why they attacked him so viciously. He doesn't care about the special interests the way they do and that's why they hate him.

[NoSavingByTheBell]

Trump is part of the one big club you despise yet put him as your saviour Brock.

You should see that from your high up view.

And I hate him for going along with the operation warp speed and developing the clot shots to try to look like the savior and cure covid-19 when in fact Pfizer and moderna did not do the proper amount of clinical trials and they all rushed it through because he gave emergency authorization and he also gave the pharmaceutical companies a free pass so that they were not liable for any debts and primitive vaccine injuries. I hated him for that and I still do. Thanks to him we have operation warp speed and these clot shots. He is a total idiot for that

[TitoFan]

I dislike him because he's nothing like what a leader should be. A true leader leads by example and respect... not by fear. A true leader encourages individual thought, even when those thoughts contradict his own. A true leader is secure enough in his own skin to know when to yield the floor to the real experts... not crow about knowing more about everything than anybody else. A true leader, especially the leader of a country, seeks to unify, knowing that a unified people create a more perfect union. A true leader is typically also a good human being. They're not always mutually exclusive terms. A true leader knows to give credit to others as warranted... not constantly seek glorification. A true leader does not disparage other peoples, no matter how tempted he may be.

He sold himself as "not a politician." Given the choice between him and the unlikable and untrustworthy Hillary in 2016, I would've probably voted for Trump had I been able to vote. He promised to "drain the swamp." Quickly it became evident that Americans had elected a thin-skinned, vindictive, petty, narcissist, who enjoys nothing more than adulation from an army of Yes-Men.

Seven years later, it's painfully obvious that Trump is a major P.O.S.

[Kirkland Laing]

The harder Trump is attacked by the state the stronger he becomes within the Republican party to win their vote but the weaker he becomes in becoming president again as the floating voters are less likely to support such a divisive figure.

That is why the Democrats are going after him now with anything and everything.

It's not really the Democrats attacking Trump at the minute, the DOJ are doing all the work here. But it isn't political, they're just doing their job which is investigating and prosecuting criminals. You're right about the politics of it though. Trump is ahead and his support is actually increasing:

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...57779944828928

and he's far more popular with Republicans than he was at this point in the 2016 election:

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/st...57249625501696



This has to sting a little though. Nobody trusts this fucker to pay his bills, his reputation for honesty and probity is nonexistent yet there are all these foreign governments desperate to give huge deals to his company (which has also recently been convicted of felonies). It's hard to understand:

https://twitter.com/openargs/status/1672330448016654336



Liz Cheney makes a good point:

https://www.rawstory.com/liz-cheney-2661928535/



Not just idiots though, lots of criminals. Here's the CEO of a firm convicted of running the biggest Medicare fraud in history. Instead of still being in jail he's apparently going to run for prez:

https://twitter.com/ScottforFlorida/...62921652551680

Ironically if you took all the huge Social Security and Medicare socialist payments to Florida over the years of it being America's retirement centre, not to mention various federal hurricane etc insurance schemes it would be as poor as West Virginia.

This guy is currently a Florida Senator and the head of the GOP national committee which is a great look for the party of law and order. If he does run for prez he must think the Meatball is toast.





Why would you do this? Seriously? It's too much to give people ten minute breaks in heatwaves?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...reaks-heatwave

Just doing their job haha yeah when it suits them

This is just off the top of my head and I'm sure I'm going to miss a bunch of stuff but Trump's AG Bill Barr declined to prosecute the half dozen instances of obstruction of justice by Trump that Mueller found, attacked mail in voting as fraudulent in the runup to the election with zero evidence and tried to restrict it nationally, set up a special counsel to investigate Mueller (which is done to take away interference by the DOJ in investigations that have a political element) and then travelled with the special counsel to Italy and Britain to berate their intelligence services into giving them information, refused to stop interfering in the investigation, interfered in prosecutions in a bunch of blue states to try anddeflect the blame from Trump for the Trump crime wave, sacked prosecutors in New York for investigating Trump and appointed his own guys, set another appointee after John Kerry on a bullshit investigation and when he came up with nothing appointed another prosecutor to investigate it again, tried to block the Ukraine whistleblower from testifying which led to Trump's first impeachment, had the charges against Michael Flynn dropped even though he'd pled guilty, had Roger Stone's sentence cut and then commuted, blocked several criminal investigations into Trump and Kushner for accepting various sources of foreign money.

Oh and several dozen prosecutors and senior DOJ staff resigned at various points because they didn't want to be involved in decisions they knew were corrupt.

The current Biden guy has so far got a spotless record. There's a bunch of bullshit being thrown at him, all of it to do with the possibility he might have interfered with the investigation of Biden's son but even if that turns out to be true and I'll bet it doesn't just compare it to the list above. Barr blocked or tried to block half a dozen investigations into Trump and the same number into Kushner and all for actual serious stuff. Trump and Kushner walked away with billions with a b of dollars in payments from a range of dictatorships they did favours for while in office and all investigations into them were blocked.

Oh yeah Barr created a special intake system for Giuliani bullshit claims a year before the election. One of these claims about a five million bribe to Biden was investigated by the Trump DOJ in 2020 and is currently being recycled by the GOP because they have nothing else on him.

All true. That's why I said they just do their job when it suits them. I am a political atheist. I don't support either party. It is one big club and you are not on it. They will just do their job when it suits them no matter which side is in there. Try not to be so political. Take a 300,000 ft view and see that both sides are just putting on an act for us to stay divided. Divide and conquer. It is just one big club of elites with a few minor differences. It's one big club and you are not on it. Join the club of political atheists and stop arguing one side over the other. They are all laughing at us and pretending to fight like hulk Hogan and championship wrestling. Are you seriously going to cheer for hulk Hogan as opposed to Jesse Ventura as opposed to The moondogs? It's one big club of Elites they all do business with each other with a few minor differences and squabbling but in the end they stick together to keep the general population fighting and arguing and squabbling in order to keep themselves in power.

Trump is actually a minor member of the furthest right section of the elite. But in the great scheme of things he's a clown who is manna from heaven for those people. He's basically a lab grown wrecking ball for the existing system which these right wing elites hate. He's single handedly destroying Americans' belief in democracy, the US system of justice, the rule of law, the democratic system and so on. The critical mass of right wing elitists in America are people whose families were the elite back when FDR packed the courts and brought what they considered socialism to America. They want an end to income taxes of all kinds and the end of every major government programme particularly Social Secirity and Medicare. They have no interest in a democracy that looks to be heading away from their interests. They've been able to keep enough control over government policy via getting their politicians and Supreme Court judges over the years but now they can see their grip on power eroding. In 1980 Reagan won a landslide with 58% of the white vote. In 2008 McCain lost quite badly with 58% of the white vote. These elites can see the writing on the wall and that's why Trump is their number one guy. He's preparing the way for them to wreck the democratic system and impose minority rule.



If Trump is an outsider why is a huge chunk of the right wing elite holding fundraisers for him and donating millions to get him elected again? The only members of the right wing elite who aren't are people who don't think he can win again and want an alternative candidate with the same policies but no baggage. Once it becomes clear to them that he's going to win the nomination every single one of them will jump back on board again. They're not giving him a couple of billion dollars in donations because he's going to act against their interests. They didn't give him a billion plus for the 2016 election because he was going to act against their interests either.

[TitoFan]

The thing about Trump is he's singlehandedly ruining a perfectly good political party. There's good people out there with Republican ideals, who are just as frustrated as anyone else that Trump has hijacked their party. Unfortunately, as soon as they speak their mind or dare make a run at him... they get scorned and abused to no end. It's comically tragic how no one with individual thought and a backbone has any chance to survive in today's political landscape. Republicans are either flip-flopping, spineless jellyfish (ala Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz)... closet Republicans who privately hate Trump but won't dare say it publicly (ala Mitt Romney)... burnt out martyrs (ala Liz Cheney)... or Trump clone muppets who have taken the bar and lowered it by a dozen feet (ala MTG and other such clowns).

[Master]

The thing about Trump is he's singlehandedly ruining a perfectly good political party. There's good people out there with Republican ideals, who are just as frustrated as anyone else that Trump has hijacked their party. Unfortunately, as soon as they speak their mind or dare make a run at him... they get scorned and abused to no end. It's comically tragic how no one with individual thought and a backbone has any chance to survive in today's political landscape. Republicans are either flip-flopping, spineless jellyfish (ala Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz)... closet Republicans who privately hate Trump but won't dare say it publicly (ala Mitt Romney)... burnt out martyrs (ala Liz Cheney)... or Trump clone muppets who have taken the bar and lowered it by a dozen feet (ala MTG and other such clowns).

Trump will damage the Republican party for many years to come which the Democrats love now they have worked out what mess he will make of their opposition. Bad for US democracy to have a one party state but until the Republicans can learn to let go of the idiot you all will suffer.

It is never good to have one party in power for a long time.