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    WVU said it New member, trying to make a statement I think.I beleive its I dont know anything about Boxing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap
    WVU said it New member, trying to make a statement I think.I beleive its I dont know anything about Boxing.
    Well said that man!!

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    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....

    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....

    He will go down as one of the 5 best Heavies of all time and is a HALL OF FAMER there hasnt been a HEAVY like him since!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....

    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....

    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"
    How am I in a losing battle NEW GUY Answer That IS he a Hall of famer Yes or No Lets here your answer Mister Big Balls?? Let me Answer that YES!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....

    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"
    How am I in a losing battle NEW GUY Answer That IS he a Hall of famer Yes or No Lets here your answer Mister Big Balls?? Let me Answer that YES!!!!!!

    NEW GUY!!?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........this is a boxing forum you nerd, not 3rd grade at a new school
    you still didnt address the facts though
    again hes hof cuz i said earlier that he is THE BEST CRUISER WEIGHT fighter ever.....
    but....way over rated as a hw
    and once again you didnt address the FACTS
    hmmmmm............. i wonder why that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....




    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"
    How am I in a losing battle NEW GUY Answer That IS he a Hall of famer Yes or No Lets here your answer Mister Big Balls?? Let me Answer that  YES!!!!!!

    NEW GUY!!??  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........this is a boxing forum you nerd, not 3rd grade at a new school
    you still didnt address the facts though
    again hes hof cuz i said earlier that he is THE BEST CRUISER WEIGHT fighter ever.....
    but....way over rated as a hw
    and once again you didnt address the FACTS
    hmmmmm............. i wonder why that is
    Highly doubt it My man it Will be cause he is a heavy!!! He beat Bowe,Stewart,Dokes,Mercer,Thomas Tyson 2x Moorer Drew with Lewis....Fought with Hepatitis...ALI lost to Holmes and Leon Spinks,Trevor Berbick and it didnt taint his legacy....I'll play your game Name a contempary Heavyweight  of Holyfields time that was better(Lewis Not as Good but hall of fame) and is going to the Hall Of Fame

    By the way I dont know many nerds that can ground and pound either

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....




    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"
    How am I in a losing battle NEW GUY Answer That IS he a Hall of famer Yes or No Lets here your answer Mister Big Balls?? Let me Answer that YES!!!!!!

    NEW GUY!!?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........this is a boxing forum you nerd, not 3rd grade at a new school
    you still didnt address the facts though
    again hes hof cuz i said earlier that he is THE BEST CRUISER WEIGHT fighter ever.....
    but....way over rated as a hw
    and once again you didnt address the FACTS
    hmmmmm............. i wonder why that is
    Highly doubt it My man it Will be cause he is a heavy!!! He beat Bowe,Stewart,Dokes,Mercer,Thomas Tyson 2x Moorer Drew with Lewis....Fought with Hepatitis...ALI lost to Holmes and Leon Spinks,Trevor Berbick and it didnt taint his legacy....I'll play your game Name a contempary Heavyweight of Holyfields time that was better(Lewis Not as Good but hall of fame) and is going to the Hall Of Fame

    By the way I dont know many nerds that can ground and pound either

    yo trock don't worry about it..this says holy is overrated but but when i asked if tyson was overrated and gave holyfield credit for beating him..he replied "so tyson didn't lose a step while in prison"

    this guy is obviously and i really dislike using the word but this guy is a text book "hater" he has some issues with holyfield...that's all...and comparing holyfield to gatti is just ridiculous..gatti ain't shit never was and too bad it took floyd to add his 7th loss for people to notice it..
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    Quote Originally Posted by gbrandon


    Jeff "left hook" Lacy
    Hector Camancho
    Vernon Forrest
    Antonio Tarver
    Virgil Hill
    Micheal Moore

    are all honorable mentions
    Naseem Hamed should be in anyone's top 5!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    ....Fought with Hepatitis...
    Wasn't he a tennis player? I don't think Evander fought him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....




    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"
    How am I in a losing battle NEW GUY Answer That IS he a Hall of famer Yes or No Lets here your answer Mister Big Balls?? Let me Answer that YES!!!!!!

    NEW GUY!!?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........this is a boxing forum you nerd, not 3rd grade at a new school
    you still didnt address the facts though
    again hes hof cuz i said earlier that he is THE BEST CRUISER WEIGHT fighter ever.....
    but....way over rated as a hw
    and once again you didnt address the FACTS
    hmmmmm............. i wonder why that is
    Highly doubt it My man it Will be cause he is a heavy!!! He beat Bowe,Stewart,Dokes,Mercer,Thomas Tyson 2x Moorer Drew with Lewis....Fought with Hepatitis...ALI lost to Holmes and Leon Spinks,Trevor Berbick and it didnt taint his legacy....I'll play your game Name a contempary Heavyweight of Holyfields time that was better(Lewis Not as Good but hall of fame) and is going to the Hall Of Fame

    By the way I dont know many nerds that can ground and pound either

    yo trock don't worry about it..this says holy is overrated but but when i asked if tyson was overrated and gave holyfield credit for beating him..he replied "so tyson didn't lose a step while in prison"

    this guy is obviously and i really dislike using the word but this guy is a text book "hater" he has some issues with holyfield...that's all...and comparing holyfield to gatti is just ridiculous..gatti ain't S*** never was and too bad it took floyd to add his 7th loss for people to notice it..
    Evander rocks ! You can’t help but like what he did in his prime! at 208 Evander gave a 6"5 235 lb Bowe all he wanted. Evander's threat level made the other guys get in shape so the by product was Evander's fights were competitive and fun to watch. He brought the Best out of his opponents. As for Gatti..I love the guy ! What he lacks in technical skill he makes up in Determination factor. Hell he's fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....




    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"
    How am I in a losing battle NEW GUY Answer That IS he a Hall of famer Yes or No Lets here your answer Mister Big Balls?? Let me Answer that YES!!!!!!

    NEW GUY!!?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........this is a boxing forum you nerd, not 3rd grade at a new school
    you still didnt address the facts though
    again hes hof cuz i said earlier that he is THE BEST CRUISER WEIGHT fighter ever.....
    but....way over rated as a hw
    and once again you didnt address the FACTS
    hmmmmm............. i wonder why that is
    Highly doubt it My man it Will be cause he is a heavy!!! He beat Bowe,Stewart,Dokes,Mercer,Thomas Tyson 2x Moorer Drew with Lewis....Fought with Hepatitis...ALI lost to Holmes and Leon Spinks,Trevor Berbick and it didnt taint his legacy....I'll play your game Name a contempary Heavyweight of Holyfields time that was better(Lewis Not as Good but hall of fame) and is going to the Hall Of Fame

    By the way I dont know many nerds that can ground and pound either

    yo trock don't worry about it..this says holy is overrated but but when i asked if tyson was overrated and gave holyfield credit for beating him..he replied "so tyson didn't lose a step while in prison"

    this guy is obviously and i really dislike using the word but this guy is a text book "hater" he has some issues with holyfield...that's all...and comparing holyfield to gatti is just ridiculous..gatti ain't S*** never was and too bad it took floyd to add his 7th loss for people to notice it..
    I know it man, this guy is an Idiot plain and simple....

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    He's right though
    Holyfield was very inconsistent throughout his whole career and fortunetly for Bowe and Moorer, they fought Evander when he was at his weakest. via Hepatitus.
    I would rate him as the second best of his generation as far as the heavyweights are concerned, just behind Lewis.

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    I think this guy Hepatitus was the most overrated. Everybody here is acting like it is a big deal that he was beaten - but I've never heard of him and who did he ever beat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Quote Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
    Quote Originally Posted by jtrock
    Frozen solid in a nutshell you are ridiculous bottom line!!!!!!Evander had 300lb heart in a 215lb body 3 OF YOU COULDNT FIT INTO HIS JOCKSTRAP!!! the man was a gracious and crowd pleasing champion who NEVER ducked anybody...He was always the small man in the ring but would run through hell in back if he had to...HE WAS A WARRIOR and never wilted in the face of adversity!!!!

    For you to suggest he is the ovehyped fighter of all time is a FUKING ignorant statement...Overhyped and Holyfield arent even in the same statement.....




    He was a Champion after his 12th pro fight...last time I checked DWIGHT QAWI was no slouch and was the best cruiser in the world at the time....


    why dont you read what i posted before you start talkin smack
    i never said anything about his heart and determination......he is in a different class as far as that (the same one as gatti)
    you want to keep on this and talkin without addressing the most important points ive been making.
    what is evanders record in title defense fights?
    1 out of 3 vs. bowe?
    1 out of 3 aginst RUIZ?
    1 and 1 against michael moorer?
    are those 3 also legends of the sport? or do you disregard that?
    again look at the tail end of his career........he lost to EVERYBODY old or not
    before you start talking about age being a factor, look at the age of foreman and holmes when he fought them
    you are fighting a losing battle..............evander was a great fighter but not even close to an all time great
    he lost too much when he was in his so called "prime"
    How am I in a losing battle NEW GUY Answer That IS he a Hall of famer Yes or No Lets here your answer Mister Big Balls?? Let me Answer that YES!!!!!!

    NEW GUY!!?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........this is a boxing forum you nerd, not 3rd grade at a new school
    you still didnt address the facts though
    again hes hof cuz i said earlier that he is THE BEST CRUISER WEIGHT fighter ever.....
    but....way over rated as a hw
    and once again you didnt address the FACTS
    hmmmmm............. i wonder why that is
    Highly doubt it My man it Will be cause he is a heavy!!! He beat Bowe,Stewart,Dokes,Mercer,Thomas Tyson 2x Moorer Drew with Lewis....Fought with Hepatitis...ALI lost to Holmes and Leon Spinks,Trevor Berbick and it didnt taint his legacy....I'll play your game Name a contempary Heavyweight of Holyfields time that was better(Lewis Not as Good but hall of fame) and is going to the Hall Of Fame

    By the way I dont know many nerds that can ground and pound either

    yo trock don't worry about it..this says holy is overrated but but when i asked if tyson was overrated and gave holyfield credit for beating him..he replied "so tyson didn't lose a step while in prison"

    this guy is obviously and i really dislike using the word but this guy is a text book "hater" he has some issues with holyfield...that's all...and comparing holyfield to gatti is just ridiculous..gatti ain't S*** never was and too bad it took floyd to add his 7th loss for people to notice it..
    how do you figure im hating when i said that he was/is the best cruiser weight ever??
    its just like "the one" said, he was very inconsistent as a hw and seemed prone to losing his title as soon as he got it

    i have no issues with evander, he was great and exciting to watch and yes he did beat tyson but tyson was on the tail end of his career as was evander when he lost to larry donald and everybody else he was fighting those last few fights.

    and jt rock...you are a total idiot, bringing up ,mercer, dokes, and stewart(legends right? )
    yes he beat bowe.....but lost twice
    yes he beat moorer......but also lost
    how old were foreman and holmes when he fought them??
    how many times did evander defend his title successfullyand how many did he lose

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