Am starting to get so angry about this sh*t!

[Lords Gym]

see sorted out with anyone being bombed.

#1 Ahminijad acted like he did yall a favor......when in all actuality the sailors should have never been caught anyways

#2 They also added insult to injury by dressing your guys up like Borat before sending them back!!!!

that quote got me a bit tickled . fukin Borat.. LOL .. funny movie that.. not for the faint hearted !

[El Kabong]

....but don't they look like him

[Lords Gym]

....but don't they look like him

spot on mate ...

[Lords Gym]

you know politics is funny with me Lyle.. I am a democrat on many issues. , but when it comes to a strong military I am Republican to the bone. I hate weakness, it makes my dick itch ! and Democrats are weak as shit on military.. The U.S is strapped cause of all the Clinton fuck all back when ..cutting military spending and such. does not look good in the future either, outside of Military views the republicans are a bit too hard line for me. can't stand that guy on fox..."the o rieely factor" .. he is such an arrogant cunt aint he ?

[El Kabong]

There are a lot of arrogant cunts in politics....but the ignorant people assume that the only arrogant cunts are republicans, when in actuality there are leftists that are just plain idiotic in their idealism.


I believe there is a middle ground on a lot of issues but when it comes to some country taking your troops which posed no threat and holding them basically for ransom, I am no softy! I figure England posed no threat to Iran, 15 sailors didn't mean anythign and they just used them to posture and grandstand and feed propaganda to their citizens.......which is why I suggested a very strong action taken against Iran to show the Mullahs and Ayatollah Kohmenie (sp?) that their citizens will only hate them for capturing INNOCENT troops.

Yes we are dependant on oil....for now. I am all for making cheap fuel and I think that is possible but let's take a second and realize that the Middle East would just be a dessert with a whole bunch of camel jockeys out there if it weren't for the money AND the technology of the western world!!!!



And here is a list of right and left wing idiots
Rush Limbaugh (he makes SOME good points but the 'us against them' nature of his arguments is very noticeable)
Anne Coulter......I'd still fuck her but she's a hardline bitch
Bill O'Riley (jackass)
Sean Hannity (jackass)

now the left
Allan Comes (giant pussy)
Janeane Garafolo (dumb cunt)
Al Franken (pussy)
Randi Rhodes (dumb cunt)
Rachel Maddow (dumb dyke)
Rosie O'Donnell (Dumb bull dyke)

I try not to think of myself as a Republican anymore....yes I do appreciate their views but I do not agree with 100% of their views and I know very few who do agree to theirs or the Democrat views.

I feel that there is ALWAYS a middle ground and you should ALWAYS at least consider other means of getting things accomplished. But then again it is easy to say these things, it is a lot harder to lead a country....I do know that if a COMMON GOAL is set for both the Democrats and Republicans everyone will be happier because we are working to achieve something together and politics will not play a part in it.

I support sending more troops to Iraq because we owe it to those people living there to stablize their government.....I don't support the Democrats right now because:
#1 They say "it's not worth 1 more drop of American blood"....but they set the pull out date at 2008....too far away

#2 they shy away from the sense of responsibility that led us into places like Somalia and Bosnia

#3 They make getting out of Iraq a POLITICAL STATEMENT......listen, only soldiers and military leaders like war and being in war is no picnic but sometimes the lives we lose are worth it in the long run


I am also of the belief that if duality in belief was created by man (as says The Bible, The Torah, The Q'ran) then world peace will never be an option. Because if you think of it on an individual basis then that would be like you loving everyone and everyone loving you, but then that means if everyone loves you then you have to measure how much and then compare them and chances are someone will love you less than someone else and without hate, that loving less becomes HATE because there is no other option. That being said, people will always hate each other, it is only the way in which we hate that we can change.


End of rant

[Lords Gym]

There are a lot of arrogant cunts in politics....but the ignorant people assume that the only arrogant cunts are republicans, when in actuality there are leftists that are just plain idiotic in their idealism.


I believe there is a middle ground on a lot of issues but when it comes to some country taking your troops which posed no threat and holding them basically for ransom, I am no softy! I figure England posed no threat to Iran, 15 sailors didn't mean anythign and they just used them to posture and grandstand and feed propaganda to their citizens.......which is why I suggested a very strong action taken against Iran to show the Mullahs and Ayatollah Kohmenie (sp?) that their citizens will only hate them for capturing INNOCENT troops.

Yes we are dependant on oil....for now. I am all for making cheap fuel and I think that is possible but let's take a second and realize that the Middle East would just be a dessert with a whole bunch of camel jockeys out there if it weren't for the money AND the technology of the western world!!!!



And here is a list of right and left wing idiots
Rush Limbaugh (he makes SOME good points but the 'us against them' nature of his arguments is very noticeable)
Anne Coulter......I'd still fuck her but she's a hardline bitch
Bill O'Riley (jackass)
Sean Hannity (jackass)

now the left
Allan Comes (giant pussy)
Janeane Garafolo (dumb cunt)
Al Franken (pussy)
Randi Rhodes (dumb cunt)
Rachel Maddow (dumb dyke)
Rosie O'Donnell (Dumb bull dyke)

I try not to think of myself as a Republican anymore....yes I do appreciate their views but I do not agree with 100% of their views and I know very few who do agree to theirs or the Democrat views.

I feel that there is ALWAYS a middle ground and you should ALWAYS at least consider other means of getting things accomplished. But then again it is easy to say these things, it is a lot harder to lead a country....I do know that if a COMMON GOAL is set for both the Democrats and Republicans everyone will be happier because we are working to achieve something together and politics will not play a part in it.

I support sending more troops to Iraq because we owe it to those people living there to stablize their government.....I don't support the Democrats right now because:
#1 They say "it's not worth 1 more drop of American blood"....but they set the pull out date at 2008....too far away

#2 they shy away from the sense of responsibility that led us into places like Somalia and Bosnia

#3 They make getting out of Iraq a POLITICAL STATEMENT......listen, only soldiers and military leaders like war and being in war is no picnic but sometimes the lives we lose are worth it in the long run


I am also of the belief that if duality in belief was created by man (as says The Bible, The Torah, The Q'ran) then world peace will never be an option. Because if you think of it on an individual basis then that would be like you loving everyone and everyone loving you, but then that means if everyone loves you then you have to measure how much and then compare them and chances are someone will love you less than someone else and without hate, that loving less becomes HATE because there is no other option. That being said, people will always hate each other, it is only the way in which we hate that we can change.


End of rant

interesting point of view,, I really enjoyed the read ! ... I can say I agree with you 100% on your left and right wing idiots. LOL trash the fukin lot ! in 24

[porkypara]

Well I hope my point has been proven.

Our forces are free and nobody had to die.

Before anyone says it ,no we should not be gratfull to Iran coz they were in the wrong from the start.


We just made the best from a bad situation in a very British way.

[El Kabong]

.....the sailors never should have been captured to begin with though....the way it ended makes England out to be weak with soldiers who would rather live and cooperate than fight back and that their government can be held by the balls because their 15 sailors are being held.

It's not my view, but it is simply a PERCEPTION which Iran will use to innundate their citizens with propaganda.


Think about it, no one is at war with Iran, so why capture troops whom the country SAYS they are willing to help The only reasons were to gain leverage and posture!

[Lords Gym]

The Americans pulled up in force , right off the Iran shore line with air craft carriers and gun ships and started Military exercises , funny how the revolutionary guard didn’t try to board that boat and take those sailors.. LMFAO ! I think that sped up the decision making by the Iranians to let them go. They had no other choice, The U.S. was ringside and very close to making their move. and the Iranian government knew that ..

[porkypara]

The Americans pulled up in force , right off the Iran shore line with air craft carriers and gun ships and started Military exercises , funny how the revolutionary guard didn’t try to board that boat and take those sailors.. LMFAO ! I think that sped up the decision making by the Iranians to let them go. They had no other choice, The U.S. was ringside and very close to making their move. and the Iranian government knew that ..

What do you mean they had no other choice?

What move was the US going to make?

[El Kabong]

...Well if Iran wanted to start a "conflict" which might escalate to a war it would have completely ignored the US's show of force.

That being said, England probably would have attacked first.



I just think it's shitty the sailors #1 got taken and #2 let themselves get taken

[porkypara]

...Well if Iran wanted to start a "conflict" which might escalate to a war it would have completely ignored the US's show of force.

That being said, England probably would have attacked first.



I just think it's shitty the sailors #1 got taken and #2 let themselves get taken

Well what would US sailors or you have done if they were out gunned in a similar situation?


Gone down with all guns blazeing!!!!!!!!!!

Die with hounor!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No retreat,no surender!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You watch to many films mate.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

.....the sailors never should have been captured to begin with though....the way it ended makes England out to be weak with soldiers who would rather live and cooperate than fight back and that their government can be held by the balls because their 15 sailors are being held.

It's not my view, but it is simply a PERCEPTION which Iran will use to innundate their citizens with propaganda.


Think about it, no one is at war with Iran, so why capture troops whom the country SAYS they are willing to help The only reasons were to gain leverage and posture!

this isn't hicksville, the people know their own government.

PP is right, we both called it from the start, they pomp about we let them, they don't want a war nor do we. Everyone home safe and sound. I think the media is making far too much fuss about it, trying to stir up some outrage (bit like what you're accusing the Iranians of doing).

If Lyle is so keen to sort them out I welcome Iran to come and kidnap some US sailors and see what happens I guarantee they'll be all over the tv crying.

[El Kabong]

I was talking about IRAN using propaganda Missy....of course England wouldn't use it AGAINST itself....would it?


Were there other British ships in the area when the sailors were taken....if there were other ships in the area then of course you wouldn't have been outgunned then would you


Don't hate on me, I'm simply trying to figure out what other options the sailors had that's all.

Our sailors won't be playing ping pong and smiling at the motherfucking cameras I can tell you that!!!!

[Howlin Mad Missy]

as I stated they'd be shitting their pants and crying in to the camera.