How about Hagler vs RJJ ?

**Mr140** · 11-12-2007 12:45 AM

Yet again what i was saying those two names alone i believe make his resume better then Roys welcome to disagree.

**Mr140** · 11-12-2007 12:56 AM

And ice no offence but come on you can not take away a guys best wins that what define them.

**Mr140** · 11-12-2007 02:44 AM

And i have not seen the first Griffen fight but he gave Roy problems by the look of it and not sure why the second fight. Griffen is not a good name either besides a win over Roy by Dq he did not do much for his career. So then there is Bernard which he won but it was no blow out and Tony was weight drained but no excuse he was owned. Then there is MaCallum who was best weight was 154 and he fought roy at 175 and at 40 went all 12 rounds with him and you may make funt of duran being at Lightweight at prime but you do not Bring up that MaCullam fought at a lower weight to and he lost a big fight so he was below the big guys in the 1980s guess what i am saying is that Hagler will win a UD and i will leave it at that i guess.

ICB · 11-12-2007 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by Mr140

And i have not seen the first Griffen fight but he gave Roy problems by the look of it and not sure why the second fight. Griffen is not a good name either besides a win over Roy by Dq he did not do much for his career. So then there is Bernard which he won but it was no blow out and Tony was weight drained but no excuse he was owned. Then there is MaCallum who was best weight was 154 and he fought roy at 175 and at 40 went all 12 rounds with him and you may make funt of duran being at Lightweight at prime but you do not Bring up that MaCullam fought at a lower weight to and he lost a big fight so he was below the big guys in the 1980s guess what i am saying is that Hagler will win a UD and i will leave it at that i guess.

The DQ was BS Jones knocked down Griffin and landed a punch when Griffin was on the floor but Griffin was already gone so there was no need for the DQ and as for Griffin not being good name ?? he beat James Toney twice thats nothing to shabby.

Toney has always had weight problems his loss to Jones was because he was flat out owned by superb fighter plus alot of people forget Toney was P4P number 2 in the world at that time.

McCallum also won Lightheavyweight championship off Jeff Harding he was still very good at Lightheavyweight just compare Hagler's and Jones record on all the best fighters they beat plus what they achieved and Jones wins it.

ICB · 11-12-2007 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Mr140

And ice no offence but come on you can not take away a guys best wins that what define them.

Im not taking away anything im pointing out the facts Jones had better overall career than Hagler after Ruiz fight people were comparing Jones to SRR if Jones would have retired after Ruiz fight this debate would not even be happening.

**Mr140** · 11-12-2007 07:55 PM

Yea but he did not he ended up getting destroyed and if Hagler stop fighting before fighting SRL i think Hagler would be looked at differently as well.