Calzagher vs Kessler off. Calzaghe vs Mundine on!!

[superheavyrhun]

Calzaghe's volume would eclipse Mundine, who...again in Snakey's defense, has indeed improved...but IWO, Kessler gave him a gotdam fit & he was injured during the match.

Mundine's not strong enough to stop Joe either...if he did...I'd be shocked.

Joe is not given enough credit for what he has done & whom he has done it against. As I stated somewhere else on another MGT post (Mundane Glory Thread), Anthony has done little more than falter when he stepped in against the elite competition...I just don't think that he should be lacing up anything more than soccer/feet ball shoes.

Mich as I hate it, once again my views have already been posted by another, but I agree with the Wackemeister, even if you're not quite a local fan. You coming Australia/Denmark to watch wee Joe's next attempt at greatness, cause if you is, i got a big ole pitcher of beer headed your way !!!!

You better find me a gotdam "li-coor sto" instead of that beer mess babe...but if I head that way...I will call.

As I myself am kept awake sheerly by the motivation of finishing a bottle of horrible vodka, just so I don't have to drink the damn stuff again, I agree that we shall get in some spirits, I got a good range of scotch whiskies ready if you do pal

[Snakey]

HAHAHA "Whos are green and soliman" .....hahaha who the fuck is sakio bika, who the fuck is manfredo hahaha. God calzaghe has fought as much or more bums then mundine so lets not play the "whos this fighter" game. Calzaghe has proven nothin to me, he is a protected champion! He has fought no one good on the exception of lacy and that was his only big fight! And thats sad for a champion whos reigned for as long as he had. Maybe mundine wouldnt beat calzaghe but fuck its worth a try considering bika gave him a tough fight.

[chum112]

From the mod ice!!
[/quote] Well what has Mundine proved that he would stand a chance he holds his left incredibly low and i see the clips that this Mundine fan boy was showing and he was throwing wild and sloppy punches and he didn't impress me at all and i have watched full fights of Mundine and he has never once impressed me.
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This comment shows you that you know absolutely nothing about boxing. Mundine has impressed against Kessler, Soliman, Green and Ottke. For the first ten rounds Mundine was on top against Ottke. Watch the fight again. That was only after ten pro fights and Ottke had more title defences then that.

This comment shows your judgement is cloudy because of two reasons. 1)you hate Mundine. 2) your a calzaghe fan. After he gets beaten run into his changing room and give him a rub down.

Even S*** boxers impress atleast once over their career. And to say a boxer like Mundine hasn't is total trash. Shows how dumb you are. Do you want me to send you videos, of him ending fights with body punchers, uppercutts, speedy rights. He is the quickest in the division and probably the second most powerful to kessler. Stop looking at pictures of Calzaghe naked and watch his last two trash fights, then watch mundines last two master classes.

[chum112]

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Snakey i'll say it again Mundine has a very little if no chance of beating Calzaghe, fair enough you like to support your home country boys, but all this Mundine has improved so much?? I dont buy it?? Improved against who Danny Green and Sam Soliman?? As i said previously who exactly are these two guys?? Ill tell you who average boxers people will bring up the Winky fight for Soliman but Winly had the flu.Soliman was soundly beaton by Howard Eastman?? Yes the same guy who has had 3 world title shots and been beaton in all of them, Soliman is now back down at Middleweight, he fought Mundine at 168.

Calzaghe would be a 1/8 shot if this fight happened so in my books that means that Mundine has a 12.5% chance of winning, given its not exactly Lottery odds but come on, to me that means that he has a very small chance of winning in the majority of peoples minds, and odds are generated through peoples perceptions. Im sorry Snakey you can support your man all you want but he has a small chance of a big upset if this fight was to happen.
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Another Calzaghe nuthugger. And your probably going to say who has Mundine beat to come to fame. I think Green, Soliman and Echolls are bigger names than Joe just beating Lacy and Mitchell. Calzaghe has fought bums for the last 4 years. The way your going on about him would make me think that he has KO'd Tyson, Ali, Roy Jones Junior, De La Hoya, Tzyu and the rest of the boxing world. Calzaghe turns down fights because hes scared and you dumbarses believe in his legacy of beating two good fighters and retiring undefeated. Once again wake up and smell the coffee he aint that good. Mundine is a genuine threat and will beat him.

[superheavyrhun]

Another Calzaghe fan. And your probably going to say who has Mundine beat to come to fame. I think Green, Soliman and Echolls are bigger names than Joe just beating Lacy and Mitchell. Calzaghe has fought bums for the last 4 years. The way your going on about him would make me think that he has KO'd Tyson, Ali, Roy Jones Junior, De La Hoya, Tzyu and the rest of the boxing world. Calzaghe turns down fights because hes scared and you dumbarses believe in his legacy of beating two good fighters and retiring undefeated. Once again wake up and smell the coffee he aint that good. Mundine is a genuine threat and will beat him.

Sorry bro, would you mind reminding all of us ignorant brits of all of those fantastic fighters in the SMW division that Joe Calzaghe has failed to beat. We all know about Ottke's unwillingness to fight, and Mr Jones' Jr's view's on a potential fight, so what about all the realistic contenders JC has ignored?

[chum112]

Okay so heres where im at. Im confident Mundine will beat Calzaghe. Because Calzaghe is old and probably has ring rust aswell. He fights bumbs lacks balls, just to hold on to the crown, avoiding genuine opposition. Mundines speed is greater than that of Calzaghe. His power is the same if not better. His defence is solid, hard to hit, can't hit his body cause of his mayweather impersonated defence as as proven by the Kessler fight he can take punches now. Yes Calzaghe is a good combination fighter but Mundine will use the same fight plan he used against Green, aka Calzaghe won't be able to deploy his combinations. Mundine will outbox him. When Joe gets frustrated by the 7th he will start throwing wild ones. Mundine will utilize this and land his heft right which will lay Calzaghe out on the floor cold.

Mundine TKO in the 8th.

Mundine has fought better opponents than Calzaghe. Calzaghe has fought nothing but bums, spiralling away from real competitors, his only decent defence was againt Lacy. But all you dumb fck calzaghe nuthuggers here carry on like he is better than Ali.

Face it the guy was great, but is past his peak so is now good. Mundine is reaching his stride. And that stride is better than Joe ever was.

[yoitsdan]

As most of you probably know, Kesslers manager is sick. But another important thing is he wants the fight to happen in November on the anniversary of his 50 years of promoting boxing. Calzaghe and his manager are really pissed at this and are set to be on the verge of cancelling.

The next likely fight is vs Anthony Mundine. And the talk here across radio and television is they will fight each other in September. Calzaghe is getting old, and even waiting till November can be to long for him. Even a couple of months could be detrimental. This fight with Mundine is going ahead.

I don't care what any of you say. Because most of you hate Mundine. But Mundine is gonna win UD. Calzaghe has been fighting bums for four years. Mundine is gonna show him for the bum he is.

Heres a few interesting articles you should read before you reply:
-http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/choc-demands-calzaghe-come-clean/2007/06/07/1181089238360.html
-http://www.AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com/?m=show&id=8971

A lot of you will call me fans and a mundine fan who's judgement is clouded, but i will go out on a limb on my thoughts of Mundine winning this. If it happens, we all know Calzaghe is a bitch and fights bums.

No hates Mundine at all its just you are a blinded fan and no matter what you say the topics you have been doing people will agree aswell and you makeout as if Calzaghe is like 45 a couple of months isn't going to change much and if this fight comes through and Calzaghe wins i bet you won't comeback to this forum.

Thats not going to be a problem. Mundine is not going to loose. Its time for America and the world to wake up and smell the coffee he is the real deal.

Not being funny mate, but Mundine really is a fucking joke.

[chum112]

Another Calzaghe fan. And your probably going to say who has Mundine beat to come to fame. I think Green, Soliman and Echolls are bigger names than Joe just beating Lacy and Mitchell. Calzaghe has fought bums for the last 4 years. The way your going on about him would make me think that he has KO'd Tyson, Ali, Roy Jones Junior, De La Hoya, Tzyu and the rest of the boxing world. Calzaghe turns down fights because hes scared and you dumbarses believe in his legacy of beating two good fighters and retiring undefeated. Once again wake up and smell the coffee he aint that good. Mundine is a genuine threat and will beat him.

Sorry bro, would you mind reminding all of us ignorant brits of all of those fantastic fighters in the SMW division that Joe Calzaghe has failed to beat. We all know about Ottke's unwillingness to fight, and Mr Jones' Jr's view's on a potential fight, so what about all the realistic contenders JC has ignored?

Its not about who he has ignored. Nothing about that goes down in history. Its who he fought? and i can't answer anyone decent other than Lacy. Simply by that it shows you the guy is a bum. But you Calzaghe nuthuggers will find any way to love the guy. Hes not a true champion. Ali was, he fought the best, same with Oscar and Tzyu. Calzaghe isn't

[chum112]

As most of you probably know, Kesslers manager is sick. But another important thing is he wants the fight to happen in November on the anniversary of his 50 years of promoting boxing. Calzaghe and his manager are really pissed at this and are set to be on the verge of cancelling.

The next likely fight is vs Anthony Mundine. And the talk here across radio and television is they will fight each other in September. Calzaghe is getting old, and even waiting till November can be to long for him. Even a couple of months could be detrimental. This fight with Mundine is going ahead.

I don't care what any of you say. Because most of you hate Mundine. But Mundine is gonna win UD. Calzaghe has been fighting bums for four years. Mundine is gonna show him for the bum he is.

Heres a few interesting articles you should read before you reply:
-http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/choc-demands-calzaghe-come-clean/2007/06/07/1181089238360.html
-http://www.AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com/?m=show&id=8971

A lot of you will call me fans and a mundine fan who's judgement is clouded, but i will go out on a limb on my thoughts of Mundine winning this. If it happens, we all know Calzaghe is a bitch and fights bums.

No hates Mundine at all its just you are a blinded fan and no matter what you say the topics you have been doing people will agree aswell and you makeout as if Calzaghe is like 45 a couple of months isn't going to change much and if this fight comes through and Calzaghe wins i bet you won't comeback to this forum.

Thats not going to be a problem. Mundine is not going to loose. Its time for America and the world to wake up and smell the coffee he is the real deal.

Not being funny mate, but Mundine really is a F****** joke.

Obviously your the joke. Go watch the first 9 rounds of the Ottke fight and then take into account this is only after 10 pro fights. The go watch his demolition of Green and Soliman. If Soliman was so shit why did winky go the distance with him. And if Green was so shit why did he go 12 with Ottke. Both are world class opponents. Your blind, because of your hatred to Mundine. Taking his comments that attract fans seriously. Obviously you don't know boxing. Because Calzaghe is ordinary now, hes past it, fights bums etc etc. But your a calzaghe nuthugger so its no debate for you its programmed in your head.

[superheavyrhun]

Another Calzaghe fan. And your probably going to say who has Mundine beat to come to fame. I think Green, Soliman and Echolls are bigger names than Joe just beating Lacy and Mitchell. Calzaghe has fought bums for the last 4 years. The way your going on about him would make me think that he has KO'd Tyson, Ali, Roy Jones Junior, De La Hoya, Tzyu and the rest of the boxing world. Calzaghe turns down fights because hes scared and you dumbarses believe in his legacy of beating two good fighters and retiring undefeated. Once again wake up and smell the coffee he aint that good. Mundine is a genuine threat and will beat him.

Sorry bro, would you mind reminding all of us ignorant brits of all of those fantastic fighters in the SMW division that Joe Calzaghe has failed to beat. We all know about Ottke's unwillingness to fight, and Mr Jones' Jr's view's on a potential fight, so what about all the realistic contenders JC has ignored?

Its not about who he has ignored. Nothing about that goes down in history. Its who he fought? and i can't answer anyone decent other than Lacy. Simply by that it shows you the guy is a bum. But you Calzaghe fans will find any way to love the guy. Hes not a true champion. Ali was, he fought the best, same with Oscar and Tzyu. Calzaghe isn't

So if he didn't ignore anyone in the division, yet managed to scare off anyone wanting to fight in the division....are you having a go at him for not stepping up to fight Lennox Lewis? Or maybe have an operation to concede his coxcix (spelling?) so he can make middleweight? Without leaving the division, what more could he do?

[chum112]

Another Calzaghe fan. And your probably going to say who has Mundine beat to come to fame. I think Green, Soliman and Echolls are bigger names than Joe just beating Lacy and Mitchell. Calzaghe has fought bums for the last 4 years. The way your going on about him would make me think that he has KO'd Tyson, Ali, Roy Jones Junior, De La Hoya, Tzyu and the rest of the boxing world. Calzaghe turns down fights because hes scared and you dumbarses believe in his legacy of beating two good fighters and retiring undefeated. Once again wake up and smell the coffee he aint that good. Mundine is a genuine threat and will beat him.

If hes such a man why has he fought no one in the last 4 years. Don't get on to this bullshit that everyone was scared because he has been fighting bums. Im not even arguing the point with you. Calzaghe nuthugger. Even if a few were scared then why not go after the other top fighters, instead of fighting bums. Idiot
Sorry bro, would you mind reminding all of us ignorant brits of all of those fantastic fighters in the SMW division that Joe Calzaghe has failed to beat. We all know about Ottke's unwillingness to fight, and Mr Jones' Jr's view's on a potential fight, so what about all the realistic contenders JC has ignored?

Its not about who he has ignored. Nothing about that goes down in history. Its who he fought? and i can't answer anyone decent other than Lacy. Simply by that it shows you the guy is a bum. But you Calzaghe fans will find any way to love the guy. Hes not a true champion. Ali was, he fought the best, same with Oscar and Tzyu. Calzaghe isn't

So if he didn't ignore anyone in the division, yet managed to scare off anyone wanting to fight in the division....are you having a go at him for not stepping up to fight Lennox Lewis? Or maybe have an operation to concede his coxcix (spelling?) so he can make middleweight? Without leaving the division, what more could he do?

[THE THIRD MAN]

This will be a solid win for Joe balls i'm afraid, Mundine deserves credit if he takes up the challenge, but he won't win and then he will retire and go back to rugby league. While Calzaghe and Kessler are around Mundine will always be no.3!
I here what you are saying Chum but Green and Soliman are not in JC's and Kessler's class. Should go the distance though.

[superheavyrhun]

This will be a solid win for Joe balls i'm afraid, Mundine deserves credit if he takes up the challenge, but he won't win and then he will retire and go back to rugby league. While Calzaghe and Kessler are around Mundine will always be no.3!
I here what you are saying Chum but Green and Soliman are not in JC's and Kessler's class. Should go the distance though.

Cheers for some valuable views Third, good to see that not everyone thinks that Joe C v Mundine will see Joe C getting a good shoeing by former rugby leaguer Mundine. Even if he finds Joe's back, I can't see any further evidence to convince me, but if you do have then it would be appreciated.

[THE THIRD MAN]

This will be a solid win for Joe balls i'm afraid, Mundine deserves credit if he takes up the challenge, but he won't win and then he will retire and go back to rugby league. While Calzaghe and Kessler are around Mundine will always be no.3!
I here what you are saying Chum but Green and Soliman are not in JC's and Kessler's class. Should go the distance though.

Cheers for some valuable views Third, good to see that not everyone thinks that Joe C v Mundine will see Joe C getting a good shoeing by former rugby leaguer Mundine. Even if he finds Joe's back, I can't see any further evidence to convince me, but if you do have then it would be appreciated.

No further evidence available other than what Joe balls has already shown us. He will be to good for Mundine, this will be a good fight for JC and a perfect fight pre Kessler. Mundine will give him a solid 12 rounds.

[chum112]

Okay but how is Calzaghe going to evade mundines speed? and how is Calzaghe going to land combinations when mundine fights from the outside?