It's what you want. It's what I want. Let the predictions begin. Cotto - PBF

[The Rookie Fan]

I was going to put all the names on but I'm a little lazy and there are just too many.

So far we got:

Mayweather => 28
Cotto => 4

I didn't count some for Cotto because, even though you were dabating very much in favor of Cotto, you never actually stated a prediction. So I suppose you are like me, and hope Cotto will win but would not put any money on it.

Those numbers kinda make me wonder why people wanna see it so bad, hardly anyone thinks he can win LOL.

I would like to see Cotto up against one of the other WW champions or maybe a big money fight with DLH first. But this fight needs to happend by the end of next year or the beginning of 2009.

[Mr140]

Well i have seen the fight and mayweather won by 2 or3 three rounds it was a close fight to me not a lopsided as people think it was close.

[ICB]

Well i have seen the fight and mayweather won by 2 or3 three rounds it was a close fight to me not a lopsided as people think it was close.

What fight ??

[Mr140]

The Oscar Fight i mean i had PBf 2 rounds ahead and i think he only won by 2 maybe 3 but no more then that.

[ICB]

The Oscar Fight i mean i had PBf 2 rounds ahead and i think he only won by 2 maybe 3 but no more then that.

I had Mayweather clearly ahead by at least 4 or 3 rounds, Mayweather was out landing Oscar De La Hoya in most rounds. And was landing the better quality blows, Oscar De La Hoya's flurries did not fool me one bit.

[The Rookie Fan]

The Oscar Fight i mean i had PBf 2 rounds ahead and i think he only won by 2 maybe 3 but no more then that.

Yes you are right. The fight was not that one sided. I felt it was PBF by 2 rounds. I think people exagerate because they are discusted, as I am, at the fact that one of the Judges actually had Oscar winning.

[ICB]

The Oscar Fight i mean i had PBf 2 rounds ahead and i think he only won by 2 maybe 3 but no more then that.

Yes you are right. The fight was not that one sided. I felt it was PBF by 2 rounds. I think people exagerate because they are discusted, as I am, at the fact that one of the Judges actually had Oscar winning.

It wasn't one sided but Mayweather did out box Oscar De La Hoya, and beat him by quite a wide margin by at least 4 or 3 rounds imo.

[Wasp]

I would go with Mayweather. Anyone would have to after the Hatton performance. However, Cotto is stronger at the weight than Ricky, and I think he hits harder. He also uses the jab better and more often, and is not as reckless. Regardless of any predictions, it would be a great fight for real boxing fans, and would not be hijacked by knobheads booing a national anthem.

You have to get over that mate.

That's the way some people in this country are. Basically there are some people in America who are total twats. The sames here in England, the people who got off work to go and get pissed in America and watch the fight are basically the scum of Manchester/England. LOL

[Wasp]

Basically, he's beaten more champions, more multiple time champions, and has been involved in more title fights and unification fights relative to his fights, than any other fighter currently active in the p4p top 10. I'd link you, but at the moment I can't get the thread search to work. If you search Statistical it'll come up. As for being echoed in history....I'm not sure they're Spartans y'know.

Fair comment, but depending on who's numbers you believe Junior Witter is in the top 40 of all time greatest light welter weights.

Junior Witter was beaten by a multipule world champion by 4 rounds to 8 on one score card.
I just think he should be given more credit. I mean no ones beaten him apart from "Super" Zab Judah when he was at his best.
They all say it will be easy, but they all say Hatton would give Mayweather a decent fight yet he only won 1 round.
I just think numbers arn't that cut and dry.

[Wasp]

Mayweather's figured out the best fighters of his generation, so I don't see why Cotto would be any different. He took the best Hatton had to offer in a long line of champions he's fought, and although I like Cotto, I can't see past Mayweather.

Point is Mayweather hasn't figured out the best fighters of his generation yet. Sure he has fought a few.
He even admitted to avoiding Shane Mosely. And only beating Delahoya with a SD.

He keeps saying he will retire and if he does he will be forever remembered as a nobody.

You also have to remeber Hatton is a light welter weight where as Cotto is a fully blown welter weight.

Just my opinion.

You don't actually believe the Oscar fight was properly scored an SD, do you? I saw it 9-3. Oscar couldn't land a punch on Floyd to save his life. Not a close fight at all.

Did you see the "Sweet Pea" Vs "Golden Boy" fight and the 2nd Sergo moran Vs manfredo fight.
Fights are rarely scored correctly. Lot's of money in boxing. It always pays to be a favourite.

Here in England in domestic fights the Referee can be the sole judge on who wins the fight.
That's not fair.

[Wasp]

He admitted to avoiding Shane Mosley ?? Mosley was Welterweight in 1999 to 2002, Mayweather wasn't even Welterweight until 2005, Mosley moved up to Lightmiddleweight in 2003 and was at Lightmiddleweight until 2006 i believe. So the fight could not have happened at anytime, Mosley moved back down to Welterweight in 2007 shutting out Collazo, then he was in line for his shot against Mayweather if he beat Cotto, but he lost and he isn't getting his shot simple as.
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Come on the fight could of been arranged. Mayweather didn't want it. You can read about it, it's on another thread somewhere. Mayweather basically said he didn't want Cotto or Mosely.

[ICB]

He admitted to avoiding Shane Mosley ?? Mosley was Welterweight in 1999 to 2002, Mayweather wasn't even Welterweight until 2005, Mosley moved up to Lightmiddleweight in 2003 and was at Lightmiddleweight until 2006 i believe. So the fight could not have happened at anytime, Mosley moved back down to Welterweight in 2007 shutting out Collazo, then he was in line for his shot against Mayweather if he beat Cotto, but he lost and he isn't getting his shot simple as.

Come on the fight could of been arranged. Mayweather didn't want it. You can read about it, it's on another thread somewhere. Mayweather basically said he didn't want Cotto or Mosely.
[/quote] No actually it couldn't have, based on the weight classes they were at. I already just gave you the facts above why it couldn't have happened, Mosley would have got his shot had he beat Cotto but he didn't so Cotto will more than likely be getting his shot which is 100 percent fair.

[Wasp]

Umm. Like i said if you can read on another thread that it has been stated Mayweather said he would not entertain a fight with Cotto. And also saying that he wanted to aviod fighting Mosely.

I thought it was common knowlage that Mayweather said he wanted to avoid Moesly.

Obviously not. LOL

[ICB]

Umm. Like i said if you can read on another thread that it has been stated Mayweather said he would not entertain a fight with Cotto. And also saying that he wanted to aviod fighting Mosely.

I thought it was common knowlage that Mayweather said he wanted to avoid Moesly.

Obviously not. LOL

I have never heard of Mayweather saying he would never fight Mosley, and i doubt someone with Mayweather's ego would admit to avoiding a fighter. The only time the fight really could of happened was in 2007, and like i said Mosley would have got his shot but he lost to Cotto how hard is that to understand ??

[Wasp]

I recall Mayweather saying Mosely was pretty much the last fighter he wanted. Or words to that effect.

As for Mayweather not being able to fight Mosely what are you on. Mosely takes 5 months to go up and down in weight, which is plenty of time.
The second Fernando Vargas fight could of been called off easily.

I just don't understand why you think it was impossible for the fight to happen. LOL