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    Default Re: Pac Vs Tsysu in their primes at 140

    Do you always have to be so sarcastic? I've read Lee's Jeet Kune Do book and his style is very similar to what Bruce described in his techniques, so role your eyes all you want, but do a little research before your next post please. By the way if you knew anything about Jeet Kune Do you would know that it orriginates from no where. Lee studied western boxing, fencing as well with all the various asian forms of martial arts. Jeet Kune Do is not a certain standard of moves, those become predictable, its ever changing, adapting to the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    Do you always have to be so sarcastic? I've read Lee's Jeet Kune Do book and his style is very similar to what Bruce described in his techniques, so role your eyes all you want, but do a little research before your next post please. By the way if you knew anything about Jeet Kune Do you would know that it orriginates from no where. Lee studied western boxing, fencing as well with all the various asian forms of martial arts. Jeet Kune Do is not a certain standard of moves, those become predictable, its ever changing, adapting to the moment.
    Jeet Kune Do is not a fighting style, said so by Bruce Lee himself, it's a mentality, self growth, breaking all boundaries to any "laws" or "rules" in specific fighting styles, basically do whatever is needed to get the job done, i don't have to research what i already know bud

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    Quote Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan View Post
    I think its kinda ridiculous how theres like a feudal system on this forum. Some people (not all) with a few thousand posts beleive they have infinite knowledge.....uhcoughJaz.....like thats makes a difference or something? Jaz I don't need to hear your new vocabulary words you learned in class today, try making a point with them next please. The longer Manny's career goes on the more people will agree with me oon how much better Manny is than Kostya, I told JT Rock the same thing when Manny was fighting Hatton and I havnt seen him on here since. Have a great Day!
    Yes JT Rock must be terrified. As a matter of fact you weren't on here for months were you on a Pacquiao pilgrimmage or somethin? There's no feudal system, posters who make good points get props regardless of how many posts they've got, posters who come on here and behave like they've recently had a personality bypass such as yourself don't. Why do you think people are neg-repping you? I have made points it just seems you're unable to comprehend a paragraph that doesn't have words 'Manny' or 'Pacquiao' in at least 3 times

    Oh yeah, and the Bruce Lee comparisom DEFINITELY shows your infinite boxing knowledge, I bow in awe

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    Ahh I see you have studied it, I take back my comments. As for my negative rep points I could really care less, I've learned to embrace those when people like Jaz spew out their verbal diarea about my posts. Jaz if you think the only person I have commented on is Pacquiao threads than thats the only threads you've been on. It seems the Pacquiao threads are the most debatable and interesting and I have commented on them more than the others but I comment on just about everything but lame heavyweights. And about me not being on here for a few months? Well Jaz I do a little thing called "Work" and I get busy sometimes. I'm sure you might have a hard time realizing what that is being that you sit in front of your cp with your bag of hot fries and Diet coke putting fake pictures of yourself on e-harmony!

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    Im leaning even more so to Tzsyu knocking Pacquiao out in a somewhat sloppy but physical battle.Just dont see Manny has ever been faced with the inside strength and sturdiness,accurate power punching of a Tzsyu.Manny has in all fairness faced exactly two fighters at the 140 range.In one he had total domination and in the later half a shadow of a DLH sitting on the outside soaking up damage,very little if any resistance.Hatton brought the apperance of a inside strength factor and body attack going in but was prone to collecting left hooks and while I like the guy,respect his moxie...the cat was out of the bag as far as him being there to be countered,especially with left hooks.Sensational win for Manny,but 2 rounds at 140 does not make you a sure thing to defeat one of the best jr.Welt has seen.He never got going,and that credit has to be given to Manny.Barrera,2nd Morales and heated flip of a coin mutual battles with JMM were great feats & superb talents but at lighterweight and just could not match the power of body and hands of a natural 140 in Tzsyu,who had faced much diversity in styles from the outset of career,from rugged types,to fast handed-mover types.Manny would attack and his increased footwork and fast hands would suite him well early,but Kostya was a very smart calculator and I think he slows Manny down with short shots and rights & after some bristling early rounds,gets him standing in front of him for a TKO late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Im leaning even more so to Tzsyu knocking Pacquiao out in a somewhat sloppy but physical battle.Just dont see Manny has ever been faced with the inside strength and sturdiness,accurate power punching of a Tzsyu.Manny has in all fairness faced exactly two fighters at the 140 range.In one he had total domination and in the later half a shadow of a DLH sitting on the outside soaking up damage,very little if any resistance.Hatton brought the apperance of a inside strength factor and body attack going in but was prone to collecting left hooks and while I like the guy,respect his moxie...the cat was out of the bag as far as him being there to be countered,especially with left hooks.Sensational win for Manny,but 2 rounds at 140 does not make you a sure thing to defeat one of the best jr.Welt has seen.He never got going,and that credit has to be given to Manny.Barrera,2nd Morales and heated flip of a coin mutual battles with JMM were great feats & superb talents but at lighterweight and just could not match the power of body and hands of a natural 140 in Tzsyu,who had faced much diversity in styles from the outset of career,from rugged types,to fast handed-mover types.Manny would attack and his increased footwork and fast hands would suite him well early,but Kostya was a very smart calculator and I think he slows Manny down with short shots and rights & after some bristling early rounds,gets him standing in front of him for a TKO late.
    Earlier I commented I didn't want to see this fight but I have been thinkiing about it.

    I bolded where you said 2 rounds is sensational but it is just 2 rounds at 140. I had this in mind too and I think your right. koysta is one of the best lightwelterweight ever and manny has only fought 2 rounds at 140.

    IMO koysta had one of the best right straight I have ever seen, and I think the best weapon to fight pac with is exactly that. I disagree with you though on the part you said koysta will slow pac down. I just dont think koysta throws quantity and is very active to slow pac down to the later rounds. I think he could catch pac with a few big shots to make pac double think but physically I think pac is more likey to slow koysta down if koysta doesn't land enough big straight rights.

    I would make koysta the favorite.

    Hey just realize koysta knock zab out with seconds left in the second round just like how pac knock hatton out in the second.

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