Lee v Saunders 'head to head'

[Batman]

anyone looking forward to Lee v Saunders? I hear that they are fighting soon.

[ross]

anyone looking forward to Lee v Saunders? I hear that they are fighting soon.

Apparently not.

[p4pking]

People are forgetting to ignore Ross when he's had to much sugar.

Basically, nobody may dare critique any fighter if they never had the balls to become one, is his argument, save your time.

Not critique. Deride!

You deride fighters you don't like all the time, I suppose you honestly think it's different since they are your peers It's just such a weak argument imo, and you could make it about literally anything, boxing perhaps isn't as unique as you like to think. This is elite sports we are talking about, people don't have to have given it a go themselves in order to weigh in, the athletes do make a very good living on the backs of fans after all.

Boxing is very much different to any other sport. Boxing or fighting is the pinnacle that all men want to be good at and dont want to be known to be shit at. Basically it seperates the men from the boys. Not everyone likes getting hit or risking losing a fight thats fine but to deride fighters that take the risk when you have never risked it yourself is wrong. Boxing is different from other sports in this respect because you would not feel as low as a fighter who has been beaten does if you lose in any other sport. Its a real pride killer to lose a fight.

So you've gone from speaking for boxers, to ALL men I really meant as far as the dedication required, all sports, and many professions in general, are exceedingly difficult to excel in and some as much as boxing. The notion that you can't criticize someone who makes millions of dollars to do something for peoples entertainment, if you haven't personally tried to do it, is just a bit backwards and juvenile imo. Where would the market be for pro sports if everyone was Usain bolt? Nobody would watch anything and no athletes would make a bean.

[Primo Carnera]

People are forgetting to ignore Ross when he's had to much sugar.

Basically, nobody may dare critique any fighter if they never had the balls to become one, is his argument, save your time.

Not critique. Deride!

You deride fighters you don't like all the time, I suppose you honestly think it's different since they are your peers It's just such a weak argument imo, and you could make it about literally anything, boxing perhaps isn't as unique as you like to think. This is elite sports we are talking about, people don't have to have given it a go themselves in order to weigh in, the athletes do make a very good living on the backs of fans after all.

Boxing is very much different to any other sport. Boxing or fighting is the pinnacle that all men want to be good at and dont want to be known to be shit at. Basically it seperates the men from the boys. Not everyone likes getting hit or risking losing a fight thats fine but to deride fighters that take the risk when you have never risked it yourself is wrong. Boxing is different from other sports in this respect because you would not feel as low as a fighter who has been beaten does if you lose in any other sport. Its a real pride killer to lose a fight.

So now you're an expert on all sports? How do you know what it feels like to lose in other sports you Plum? Like I said before, very few are actually deriding Fury, it is YOU THAT PEOPLE ARE DERIDING!
However , because you've had a few amateur fights, it's ok for YOU to call Haye and Klitschko , a World Champion and a former World champion, cowards?
I've never heard anyone blatantly talk such hypocritical nonsense in all my life!
If anything, because YOU KNOW how they feel, because you're "one of them", surely you would never call one of your compadres a coward? Is that not the worst thing you can call a fighter?
If these questions are familiar, that's because you couldn't answer them the last time I asked you.........as per!!!
You truly are laughable.
What was your nickname when you judged? Oh yeah, Clueless Ross! 😂😂😂

[El Kabong]

anyone looking forward to Lee v Saunders? I hear that they are fighting soon.

Apparently not.

Well I'm not allowed an opinion on it sooooo.....

[Beanz]

anyone looking forward to Lee v Saunders? I hear that they are fighting soon.

Apparently not.

I am. Nice clash of styles.


Saunders (Proper (Romani) Gypsy but proud to represent England at the Olympics) against Andy Lee (London Born Fake Paddy but all round nice fella with an aerobics instructor as coach)

[El Kabong]

anyone looking forward to Lee v Saunders? I hear that they are fighting soon.

Apparently not.

I am. Nice clash of styles.


Saunders (Proper (Romani) Gypsy but proud to represent England at the Olympics) against Andy Lee (London Born Fake Paddy but all round nice fella with an aerobics instructor as coach)

Say....ummm.....Beanz......






Have you ever boxed?

[p4pking]

Or tried to become an aerobics instructor? How dare you deride them like that.

[Dark Lord Al]

I'm looking forward to the fight Lee just has the edge for me with his power ,but you know the ironic thing about if you have boxed your opinion is more valid ?
Well for instance Johnny Nelson and Barry McGuigan both former world belt holders , think Wlad will knockout fury.

FACT!

You see the whole world of boxing is about balanced opinions , only children and fools let emotion dictate their thoughts on a fights outcome.

[ross]

I'm looking forward to the fight Lee just has the edge for me with his power ,but you know the ironic thing about if you have boxed your opinion is more valid ?
Well for instance Johnny Nelson and Barry McGuigan both former world belt holders , think Wlad will knockout fury.

FACT!

You see the whole world of boxing is about balanced opinions , only children and fools let emotion dictate their thoughts on a fights outcome.

I never said you cant have an opinion, dont exagerate ladies

Im not the one that comes shooting down anyone who thinks Tyson Fury will win by deriding him for instance. Calling him a fat, useless gypsy who will tarmac your drive is not constructive criticism its deriding and it gets tiresome from those who have never had the balls to box themselves.

Me criticising Haye, yes, he deserves it. Hes cost lots of people lots of money over the years, fans, fighters and promoters with pull outs. Whenever a camp is hard going for him regarding sparring he pulls out. Its well known.

An interview with Mark Hobson

“F**king David Haye what a total w*nk stain. We had two fights lined up, the first time I'd trained for three months but it was just like recently (when he pulled out against Tyson Fury). He just pulled out and wasted everyone's time.”

“I was in the final stages of training for the first fight date and I was on fire. Sky Sports' Ed Robinson came down to watch me train and he told me he thought beforehand Haye would beat me but after watching me train he said wasn't so sure. I was flying at that time, I'm not stupid I could have been caught but I think I had a great chance of beating Haye.”

What has the official reason the future world champion pulled out?

“He said it was because he pulled a hamstring but that's total bulls**it. I heard afterwards he'd gone to spar Tony Bellew and David Price and they both banged the living sh*t out of him THAT is why he cancelled our fight. It's been the same way all through his career; if he's had anything like a bad camp he just pulls out he's done it loads of times now.”

Hobson also reveals he had been angered by Haye, who was 11-1 (11) entering 2005, in a press conference before the fight and admits he fell for the famous “Hayemaker” mind-games.

“We'd sparred previously and got on alright but at the press conference he swaggers in an hour late, doesn't even look at me and starts talking sh*t about me. I tried to make a bet with him with ten grand on the line but he would only go 50/50 odds, I said I could get 3-1 with Ladbrokes and he didn't understand betting so we got into a big argument.”

“I didn't understand until afterwards that it was all a big game to him but I was really angry as I thought we had been mates. I know he became a two-weight world champion but he just caught Enzo early, Mormeck was beating him and then he faces the worst world heavyweight champion ever and defends against Audley. He's an ok fighter but whenever he fights anyone good he gets beat. Wladimir Klitschko didn't fall for any of his sh*t and beat him soundly.”

“I think Haye is probably a nice guy once he stops sucking his own c**k.”

The second date with Haye would scupper the bout forever after Hobson was ruled out with a bout of shingles. The disappointed fighter would thus face his most dangerous foe to date in March 2006 with over a year of inactivity behind him.

[Primo Carnera]

I'm looking forward to the fight Lee just has the edge for me with his power ,but you know the ironic thing about if you have boxed your opinion is more valid ?
Well for instance Johnny Nelson and Barry McGuigan both former world belt holders , think Wlad will knockout fury.

FACT!

You see the whole world of boxing is about balanced opinions , only children and fools let emotion dictate their thoughts on a fights outcome.

I never said you cant have an opinion, dont exagerate ladies

Im not the one that comes shooting down anyone who thinks Tyson Fury will win by deriding him for instance. Calling him a fat, useless gypsy who will tarmac your drive is not constructive criticism its deriding and it gets tiresome from those who have never had the balls to box themselves.

Me criticising Haye, yes, he deserves it. Hes cost lots of people lots of money over the years, fans, fighters and promoters with pull outs. Whenever a camp is hard going for him regarding sparring he pulls out. Its well known.

An interview with Mark Hobson

“F**king David Haye what a total w*nk stain. We had two fights lined up, the first time I'd trained for three months but it was just like recently (when he pulled out against Tyson Fury). He just pulled out and wasted everyone's time.”

“I was in the final stages of training for the first fight date and I was on fire. Sky Sports' Ed Robinson came down to watch me train and he told me he thought beforehand Haye would beat me but after watching me train he said wasn't so sure. I was flying at that time, I'm not stupid I could have been caught but I think I had a great chance of beating Haye.”

What has the official reason the future world champion pulled out?

“He said it was because he pulled a hamstring but that's total bulls**it. I heard afterwards he'd gone to spar Tony Bellew and David Price and they both banged the living sh*t out of him THAT is why he cancelled our fight. It's been the same way all through his career; if he's had anything like a bad camp he just pulls out he's done it loads of times now.”

Hobson also reveals he had been angered by Haye, who was 11-1 (11) entering 2005, in a press conference before the fight and admits he fell for the famous “Hayemaker” mind-games.

“We'd sparred previously and got on alright but at the press conference he swaggers in an hour late, doesn't even look at me and starts talking sh*t about me. I tried to make a bet with him with ten grand on the line but he would only go 50/50 odds, I said I could get 3-1 with Ladbrokes and he didn't understand betting so we got into a big argument.”

“I didn't understand until afterwards that it was all a big game to him but I was really angry as I thought we had been mates. I know he became a two-weight world champion but he just caught Enzo early, Mormeck was beating him and then he faces the worst world heavyweight champion ever and defends against Audley. He's an ok fighter but whenever he fights anyone good he gets beat. Wladimir Klitschko didn't fall for any of his sh*t and beat him soundly.”

“I think Haye is probably a nice guy once he stops sucking his own c**k.”

The second date with Haye would scupper the bout forever after Hobson was ruled out with a bout of shingles. The disappointed fighter would thus face his most dangerous foe to date in March 2006 with over a year of inactivity behind him.

Yep , typical Ross! Despite being this ultra knowledgeable "ex-fighter with an insight", you always base your point on a "he said, she said" basis. Examples:
1. Mark Hobson said this , that and the other, so it must be right.
2. 3 experts said Fury will win, so it must be right, yeah? But 3 million tipped Wlad? Doh!
3. Eubank Jr. Beat BJS ! Even 3 or 4 Pikeys that were stood by me said Eubank won, so he must've!
And let's get this straight, you can still call Haye and Wlad cowards, right?
You're not convincing anyone here.

[Dark Lord Al]

Haye is a wanker , who does nothing but talk hmmmm like someone else I can think of.
Mind you I'm not a unbeaten pro boxer or a teenager , so is my opinion relevant ?
If you asked Haye who is a pro boxer his opinion would that be relevant ?

Does this person remind you of a guy who posts here who name start with "R" ?

[Beanz]

anyone looking forward to Lee v Saunders? I hear that they are fighting soon.

Apparently not.

I am. Nice clash of styles.


Saunders (Proper (Romani) Gypsy but proud to represent England at the Olympics) against Andy Lee (London Born Fake Paddy but all round nice fella with an aerobics instructor as coach)

Say....ummm.....Beanz......






Have you ever boxed?

Only on grass fields and on tarmac.


With gloves, only in school.

[El Kabong]

anyone looking forward to Lee v Saunders? I hear that they are fighting soon.

Apparently not.

I am. Nice clash of styles.


Saunders (Proper (Romani) Gypsy but proud to represent England at the Olympics) against Andy Lee (London Born Fake Paddy but all round nice fella with an aerobics instructor as coach)

Say....ummm.....Beanz......






Have you ever boxed?

Only on grass fields and on tarmac.


With gloves, only in school.

Sorry. ....you just don't have the experience we're looking for.

[ross]

It's not true to say Fury's antics offer nothing. Yes Wlad sells 50,000 tickets in Germany but that is not the only market. This fight is SKY PPV in Britain. There's a reason why K2 promotions sold the TV rights to Sky PPV in the UK, because Fury will bring a whole load of extra dough to them because of his antics. Likewise HBO have bought the fight for America (they don't buy every Wlad fight).

Fury being a big nutter, with a big mouth and turning up to press conferences in batman costumes is the main reason why Wlad is facing him. It's absolute gold for promoters and TV companies.

Looks like its going to be Wlads biggest pay day! Also, Tyson is earning amazing money for a first time world title challenger!

Thats the pulling power of Tyson Fury!

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