Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

[Gandalf]

I have said it a few times , Pac is great at what he does and what he is good at which is coming forward. However as Miles points out he is no defensive genius, whenever he is on the back foot he just doesn't look that special. there's no real power and he just waits for the assualt to end, big question is can he work off the back foot with someone like Hatton pressing him constantly.

Exactly, who has Pac fought that had the ability to push him back? Morales showed glimpses of how to do it. Opponents like Marquez and Barrera like to fight going back, which plays to Manny's strengths somewhat (though Marquez made him look a bit silly on occasions). It all worked against Oscar who was throwing nothing back and how could it not work against Diaz!

Hatton has a style that Manny really hasn't faced before, despite Saddoboxers ludicrous David Diaz comparisons! Hatton has great footwork and gets close quickly, so he can do what he does best. No opponent has been able to get away from Hatton faster than he comes to them. Even Floyd found himself in a wrestling match and seemed to be initiating a lot of the holding after potshotting. All of Hattons opponents get shocked by his fleetness of foot and how physically he fights. And here is this little man about to tame Hatton! Come on now, Pac can be cut, he can be hurt to the body, and even an old Barrera had him reeling from an illegal blow. Think what Hatton will do to him, and he will be coming forward and closing the ring off and throwing hard punches which will take their toll.

[XaduBoxer]

It's all getting very lively now that we only have a couple of weeks to go!

You can say that Kostya and Castillo were old, which is true. But let's not forget that Manny's biggest wins have come against older fighters who have been reaching the end too. Oscar and Morales were no spring chickens and had been in a lot of fights too. Oscar was a dead man at the weight. Hatton has been doing this for a long time against big fighters and walked through everything at 140. Pac has been in lower divisions and met his match in Morales and Marquez. If I recall correctly, Morales like Oscar, killed himself to make weight for that final fight. Shot and famished too.

The very fact that you are making a mockery of Mayweather, the most skilled fighter of our generation shows you up too. I can't stand Mayweather, but you have to admire what he can do, just from the boxing fan viewpoint.

Pac might have some fast hands and an awkward stance, but can Pac hit and move against Hatton for 12 without getting caught and roughed up? Of course he can't. Pac is not a big man, and he isn't a defensive wizard. Once the first big one lands, Pac will be having second thoughts and doing an awful lot of that making the sign of the cross business between rounds. Pac doesn't belong in this weight class and it's time for the delusion to stop. Pac is great at what he does, but he's out of his league with this one. There's no shame in losing though, as he will put up a valiant fight.

Tszyu and Castillo were older than Morales and Hoya...

PBF is a very good boxer, a very skilled one but he's not the type that terrorizing his opponents... PBF is happy to potshot his opponents to a UD win that makes his fights somewhat boring...

PAC been in different weight classes from 106 to 147 lbs... So far he didn't look being undersized (aside from Hoya) in any of those weight classes... PAC just fit in right... The same thing will be my expectation at 140, Hatton doesn't have a massive size advantage over PAC as what many Hattonites were banking on... Hatton bullying PAC is a situation you can't really rely on in this fight...
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[Gandalf]

It's all getting very lively now that we only have a couple of weeks to go!

You can say that Kostya and Castillo were old, which is true. But let's not forget that Manny's biggest wins have come against older fighters who have been reaching the end too. Oscar and Morales were no spring chickens and had been in a lot of fights too. Oscar was a dead man at the weight. Hatton has been doing this for a long time against big fighters and walked through everything at 140. Pac has been in lower divisions and met his match in Morales and Marquez. If I recall correctly, Morales like Oscar, killed himself to make weight for that final fight. Shot and famished too.

The very fact that you are making a mockery of Mayweather, the most skilled fighter of our generation shows you up too. I can't stand Mayweather, but you have to admire what he can do, just from the boxing fan viewpoint.

Pac might have some fast hands and an awkward stance, but can Pac hit and move against Hatton for 12 without getting caught and roughed up? Of course he can't. Pac is not a big man, and he isn't a defensive wizard. Once the first big one lands, Pac will be having second thoughts and doing an awful lot of that making the sign of the cross business between rounds. Pac doesn't belong in this weight class and it's time for the delusion to stop. Pac is great at what he does, but he's out of his league with this one. There's no shame in losing though, as he will put up a valiant fight.

Tszyu and Castillo were older than Morales and Hoya...

PBF is a very good boxer, a very skilled one but he's not the type that terrorizing his opponents... PBF is happy to potshot his opponents to a UD win that makes his fights somewhat boring...

PAC been in different weight classes from 106 to 147 lbs... So far he didn't look being undersized (aside from Hoya) in any of those weight classes... PAC just fit in right... The same thing will be my expectation at 140, Hatton doesn't have a massive size advantage over PAC as what many Hattonites were banking on... Hatton bullying PAC is a situation you can't really rely on in this fight...
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Hatton has bullied everyone at 140, it's where he has always been comfortable. Pac hasn't even fought there yet, we know what Hatton is like at 140, we don't have any idea how Pac will fare at this weight. If you want to base things on Diaz and Oscar then that's your call, but Diaz is a mediocre smaller man and the Oscar fight was just plain odd. And I know I keep on bringing it up but Marquez did a number on Manny at a far smaller weight not too long ago. But I know you don't like talking about that because you know deep down Marquez won. If Marquez can stop Manny in his tracks, you have to wonder if Manny has lost his marbles taking this fight because Hatton pressures much harder and hits a lot harder. You seem to be saying that Manny's speed will carry him through, but if Hatton has his timing down to a tee you can bet your bottom dollar Manny will taste the canvas at least once. Balance has never been Manny's strongest quality has it now?

[XaduBoxer]

It's all getting very lively now that we only have a couple of weeks to go!

You can say that Kostya and Castillo were old, which is true. But let's not forget that Manny's biggest wins have come against older fighters who have been reaching the end too. Oscar and Morales were no spring chickens and had been in a lot of fights too. Oscar was a dead man at the weight. Hatton has been doing this for a long time against big fighters and walked through everything at 140. Pac has been in lower divisions and met his match in Morales and Marquez. If I recall correctly, Morales like Oscar, killed himself to make weight for that final fight. Shot and famished too.

The very fact that you are making a mockery of Mayweather, the most skilled fighter of our generation shows you up too. I can't stand Mayweather, but you have to admire what he can do, just from the boxing fan viewpoint.

Pac might have some fast hands and an awkward stance, but can Pac hit and move against Hatton for 12 without getting caught and roughed up? Of course he can't. Pac is not a big man, and he isn't a defensive wizard. Once the first big one lands, Pac will be having second thoughts and doing an awful lot of that making the sign of the cross business between rounds. Pac doesn't belong in this weight class and it's time for the delusion to stop. Pac is great at what he does, but he's out of his league with this one. There's no shame in losing though, as he will put up a valiant fight.

Tszyu and Castillo were older than Morales and Hoya...

PBF is a very good boxer, a very skilled one but he's not the type that terrorizing his opponents... PBF is happy to potshot his opponents to a UD win that makes his fights somewhat boring...

PAC been in different weight classes from 106 to 147 lbs... So far he didn't look being undersized (aside from Hoya) in any of those weight classes... PAC just fit in right... The same thing will be my expectation at 140, Hatton doesn't have a massive size advantage over PAC as what many Hattonites were banking on... Hatton bullying PAC is a situation you can't really rely on in this fight...
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Hatton has bullied everyone at 140, it's where he has always been comfortable. Pac hasn't even fought there yet, we know what Hatton is like at 140, we don't have any idea how Pac will fare at this weight. If you want to base things on Diaz and Oscar then that's your call, but Diaz is a mediocre smaller man and the Oscar fight was just plain odd. And I know I keep on bringing it up but Marquez did a number on Manny at a far smaller weight not too long ago. But I know you don't like talking about that because you know deep down Marquez won. If Marquez can stop Manny in his tracks, you have to wonder if Manny has lost his marbles taking this fight because Hatton pressures much harder and hits a lot harder. You seem to be saying that Manny's speed will carry him through, but if Hatton has his timing down to a tee you can bet your bottom dollar Manny will taste the canvas at least once. Balance has never been Manny's strongest quality has it now?

PAC was not knockdown for how many years now and Hatton been knockout cold just 3 fights ago by a boxer not really known as a puncher... Go figure...

PAC being criticized for being out of balance sometimes in a fight, this resulted when PAC firing from odd angles to land his bombs on the enemy... This out of balance thing give more advantages to PAC than being a disadvantage... In this fight, I still expect PAC to have more movement, more angles, turning Hatton alot ('til Hatton gets dizzy ), firing whizzing, slashing punches... Hatton in dire straits...

then goodnight Richard...
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[Gandalf]

Hatton was knocked out by a fighter who was attuned to 147. Pac is only recently up from fighting at 130 pounds. There is a big disparity there. It went wrong for Hatton one time only, let's not forget that.

We are seeing completely different fights. You seem to have an idealised vision of how this is going to turn out. I struggle to see either man being unmarked by this, you say Pac will have more of everything, but have you not thought that Hatton firing back as hard as he does is going to make Pac become more cautious? I don't recall Manny being such a dazzler against Marquez. Barrera fought a very gunshy Manny last time out. And here is Manny all razzle, dazzle and shine, going to be popping Hatton from all angles!!?? I'm just not seeing it like that.

Not to say that I'm right, because it's boxing. But we will see.

[XaduBoxer]

Hatton was knocked out by a fighter who was attuned to 147. Pac is only recently up from fighting at 130 pounds. There is a big disparity there. It went wrong for Hatton one time only, let's not forget that.

We are seeing completely different fights. You seem to have an idealised vision of how this is going to turn out. I struggle to see either man being unmarked by this, you say Pac will have more of everything, but have you not thought that Hatton firing back as hard as he does is going to make Pac become more cautious? I don't recall Manny being such a dazzler against Marquez. Barrera fought a very gunshy Manny last time out. And here is Manny all razzle, dazzle and shine, going to be popping Hatton from all angles!!?? I'm just not seeing it like that.

Not to say that I'm right, because it's boxing. But we will see.

Yeah, we will see...

But can anyone of you Hattonites tell Hatton that beating PAC, the current best boxer P4P, won't make him instantly as the new P4P no. 1 ?? I don't think Hatton is this dumb?? Please mates, do me some favor...

link --> Boxing: Hatton on P4P | Setanta

"Ricky Hatton says his greatest motivation when he faces Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd comes from the prospect of being crowned the world's best pound for pound boxer."

[Dean Duke]

Hatton's footwork is very fast for a light welter, I cant see Manny keeping away for more than a couple of rounds before Rick starts to unload on him with some regularity, Manny won't clinch, use elbows or duck below the waist to avoid Hattons on slaught and that will be his downfall, he will try and trade like the warrior he is and unfortunately will find out that he is not fighting a 130lb guy who he can blow away with ease, he will be fighting a monster @ 140 who has prepared as if his life depends on it, who is faster, fitter and better schooled than he has ever been. Roll on may2nd when the truth will be revealed in stunning fashion.

[Gandalf]

Hatton was knocked out by a fighter who was attuned to 147. Pac is only recently up from fighting at 130 pounds. There is a big disparity there. It went wrong for Hatton one time only, let's not forget that.

We are seeing completely different fights. You seem to have an idealised vision of how this is going to turn out. I struggle to see either man being unmarked by this, you say Pac will have more of everything, but have you not thought that Hatton firing back as hard as he does is going to make Pac become more cautious? I don't recall Manny being such a dazzler against Marquez. Barrera fought a very gunshy Manny last time out. And here is Manny all razzle, dazzle and shine, going to be popping Hatton from all angles!!?? I'm just not seeing it like that.

Not to say that I'm right, because it's boxing. But we will see.

Yeah, we will see...

But can anyone of you Hattonites tell Hatton that beating PAC, the current best boxer P4P, won't make him instantly as the new P4P no. 1 ?? I don't think Hatton is this dumb?? Please mates, do me some favor...

link --> Boxing: Hatton on P4P | Setanta

"Ricky Hatton says his greatest motivation when he faces Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd comes from the prospect of being crowned the world's best pound for pound boxer."

Yeah, I cringe when I hear that. Personally, I think he needs to beat Manny and then one more quality opponent to get that honour. He should stop saying it because he says it all the time now.

[leftylee]

Hatton was knocked out by a fighter who was attuned to 147. Pac is only recently up from fighting at 130 pounds. There is a big disparity there. It went wrong for Hatton one time only, let's not forget that.

We are seeing completely different fights. You seem to have an idealised vision of how this is going to turn out. I struggle to see either man being unmarked by this, you say Pac will have more of everything, but have you not thought that Hatton firing back as hard as he does is going to make Pac become more cautious? I don't recall Manny being such a dazzler against Marquez. Barrera fought a very gunshy Manny last time out. And here is Manny all razzle, dazzle and shine, going to be popping Hatton from all angles!!?? I'm just not seeing it like that.

Not to say that I'm right, because it's boxing. But we will see.

Yeah, we will see...

But can anyone of you Hattonites tell Hatton that beating PAC, the current best boxer P4P, won't make him instantly as the new P4P no. 1 ?? I don't think Hatton is this dumb?? Please mates, do me some favor...

link --> Boxing: Hatton on P4P | Setanta

"Ricky Hatton says his greatest motivation when he faces Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd comes from the prospect of being crowned the world's best pound for pound boxer."

Yeah, I cringe when I hear that. Personally, I think he needs to beat Manny and then one more quality opponent to get that honour. He should stop saying it because he says it all the time now.

Actually that video link you posted a few days ago, that comes up P4P. And he says "I'ld like to think I would be P4P number 1 but it's upto the fans".

[Gandalf]

Hatton's footwork is very fast for a light welter, I cant see Manny keeping away for more than a couple of rounds before Rick starts to unload on him with some regularity, Manny won't clinch, use elbows or duck below the waist to avoid Hattons on slaught and that will be his downfall, he will try and trade like the warrior he is and unfortunately will find out that he is not fighting a 130lb guy who he can blow away with ease, he will be fighting a monster @ 140 who has prepared as if his life depends on it, who is faster, fitter and better schooled than he has ever been. Roll on may2nd when the truth will be revealed in stunning fashion.

Totally agree. Manny has never been one to clinch, and I can't see him evading Hatton for 12 rounds going on the back foot. Hattons footwork is really good and I cannot believe Roach would say that it's slow. It's one of Hattons big strengths really. Hatton will get close no doubt, and then we will see if Pac can bang with Hatton. He certainly won't punch as effectively being pushed back.

We haven't seen Hatton look as determined in a long time, and he has got his camp worked out to a tee now. Seems to be in a really good place mentally, certainly none of the pre Mayweather stuff going on.

[Gandalf]

Yeah, we will see...

But can anyone of you Hattonites tell Hatton that beating PAC, the current best boxer P4P, won't make him instantly as the new P4P no. 1 ?? I don't think Hatton is this dumb?? Please mates, do me some favor...

link --> Boxing: Hatton on P4P | Setanta

"Ricky Hatton says his greatest motivation when he faces Manny Pacquiao on May 2nd comes from the prospect of being crowned the world's best pound for pound boxer."

Yeah, I cringe when I hear that. Personally, I think he needs to beat Manny and then one more quality opponent to get that honour. He should stop saying it because he says it all the time now.

Actually that video link you posted a few days ago, that comes up P4P. And he says "I'ld like to think I would be P4P number 1 but it's upto the fans".

Yes, he did. I think that's what he truly thinks too. He knows beating Manny won't take him to number 1. He just keeps talking about the "P4P belt" for the sake of interviews and hype. But he has said it quite a lot.

[leftylee]

Yeah, I cringe when I hear that. Personally, I think he needs to beat Manny and then one more quality opponent to get that honour. He should stop saying it because he says it all the time now.

Actually that video link you posted a few days ago, that comes up P4P. And he says "I'ld like to think I would be P4P number 1 but it's upto the fans".

Yes, he did. I think that's what he truly thinks too. He knows beating Manny won't take him to number 1. He just keeps talking about the "P4P belt" for the sake of interviews and hype. But he has said it quite a lot.

He must be taking after David Haye then

[leftylee]

Tszyu and Castillo were older than Morales and Hoya...

PBF is a very good boxer, a very skilled one but he's not the type that terrorizing his opponents... PBF is happy to potshot his opponents to a UD win that makes his fights somewhat boring...

PAC been in different weight classes from 106 to 147 lbs... So far he didn't look being undersized (aside from Hoya) in any of those weight classes... PAC just fit in right... The same thing will be my expectation at 140, Hatton doesn't have a massive size advantage over PAC as what many Hattonites were banking on... Hatton bullying PAC is a situation you can't really rely on in this fight...
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Hatton has bullied everyone at 140, it's where he has always been comfortable. Pac hasn't even fought there yet, we know what Hatton is like at 140, we don't have any idea how Pac will fare at this weight. If you want to base things on Diaz and Oscar then that's your call, but Diaz is a mediocre smaller man and the Oscar fight was just plain odd. And I know I keep on bringing it up but Marquez did a number on Manny at a far smaller weight not too long ago. But I know you don't like talking about that because you know deep down Marquez won. If Marquez can stop Manny in his tracks, you have to wonder if Manny has lost his marbles taking this fight because Hatton pressures much harder and hits a lot harder. You seem to be saying that Manny's speed will carry him through, but if Hatton has his timing down to a tee you can bet your bottom dollar Manny will taste the canvas at least once. Balance has never been Manny's strongest quality has it now?

PAC was not knockdown for how many years now and Hatton been knockout cold just 3 fights ago by a boxer not really known as a puncher... Go figure...

PAC being criticized for being out of balance sometimes in a fight, this resulted when PAC firing from odd angles to land his bombs on the enemy... This out of balance thing give more advantages to PAC than being a disadvantage... In this fight, I still expect PAC to have more movement, more angles, turning Hatton alot ('til Hatton gets dizzy ), firing whizzing, slashing punches... Hatton in dire straits...

then goodnight Richard...
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This is the same guy that said he can be sure of nothing in Boxing. Yet you make out that Ricky Hatton (Who has never lost at 140 pounds) will get blown out with ease. WTF ?

[Killa From Manila]

I have said it a few times , Pac is great at what he does and what he is good at which is coming forward. However as Miles points out he is no defensive genius, whenever he is on the back foot he just doesn't look that special. there's no real power and he just waits for the assualt to end, big question is can he work off the back foot with someone like Hatton pressing him constantly.

Hatton has great footwork

[XaduBoxer]

“FAILURE IS THE ONLY OPTION FOR THE MANCUNIAN CANDIDATE!” - World-Famous Freddie Roach



HOLLYWOOD, CALIF. (April 20, 2009) – With just seven day left before the beginning of Fight Week, three-time BWAA Trainer of the Year World-Famous Freddie Roach is extremely confident that boxing’s No. 1 attraction and pound for pound fighter MANNY “Pac Man” PACQUIAO will exit the ring at the MGM Grand Garden on May 2 with a victory over RICKY “Hitman” HATTON and a record-tying sixth world title in as many weight divisions.

“Ricky Hatton is like the Manchurian Candidate, but since he is from Manchester, England I’ll call him the Mancunian Candidate,” said Roach after watching Pacquiao go through another marathon training session at the Wild Card Boxing Club in Hollywood, Calif.

“I know Floyd is trying to deprogram Ricky from being a one-dimensional puncher, but it’s too late to try and brainwash a fighter who has close to 50 fights during a 12-year professional career. The fact is Floyd couldn’t program a VCR much less a fighter with so many bad habits ingrained into him.

“Hitman” is an accurate ring name for Hatton because on May 2, Hatton is going to get hit, man, and a lot! I told Manny I would be disappointed if the fight lasts longer than three rounds.”


"Hitman" will turn to "Sh!tman"....
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