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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy





    He's also beat some very good underated fighters such Mger Miekirchan and Sakio Bika




    What mental institution let you out lately
    Super Middleweight also acknowledge as Kessler's Kingdom when Calzaghe has retire

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy


    The man who turned up and beat the then RED HOT Jeff Lacy is overated without taking without taking anything in return is overated ?

    Aye ?

    Anyone who knows Joe knows he has bollocks bigger than Wales he'd walk to New York ( no swim ) to fight any of the so called top contenders

    Joe has had injuries but i know he ooozes confidence and self belief like no fighter out there !

    Comparing him to James Toney the laziest waste of talent of the last 15
    years .

    You are having a laugh














    I am sorry are you Joe Calzaghe? Or Frank Warren??.....

    At superMiddleweight James Toney would have gave Calzaghe a beatdown that would have given him a permenant studder....Don't confuse thise heavyweight version of James Toney to that of the Super middleweight version....Two comletely different fighters...

    Only Roy Jones was able to beat that version.....

    And if you even attempt to put Joe Calzaghe anywhere near the super middleweight version of Roy Jones I suggest you enter a 28 day program to sober up
    most definitely i agree. Toney and Jones would have destroyed Joe and his "bollocks" whatever that means. And Jones would have had a much, much tougher time with Toney in that 1994(?) showdown had James Toney not lost nearly forty pounds in two weeks leading up to it. At light heavy I think James Toney would have taken him. But yeah, ur right either way about this Calzaghe dude. dont get me wrong he's a real good fighter who has beaten a lot of mediocre opponents (in Lacy, he beat another real good fighter, but that really is it. i guess chris Eubanks was pretty decent but he was old by then), but a legend that can be compared to a Roy Jones or a James "Lights Out" Toney? Not by a long shot.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe

    So you Calzaghe fans, question for you ok
    U think Joe could have stepped up to heavy and competed with a heavy champ ?
    no i didnt think so lol

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy


    I feel like crying when i read some of the shit that some of you lot write .


    Joe Calzaghe also bombed out Eubank , Mittchell , Viet twice and put on a clinic against Brewer .

    He's also beat some very good underated fighters such Mger Miekirchan and Sakio Bika

    He has been unlucky with injuries BUT when the bell of destiny sounded against Lacy , Calzaghe put all doubts to rest he stormed through the breech and did the business against a fully blown hard hitting RED HOT 4-1 ON FAVOURITE .

    Some of you talk so much bullplop its not funny.

    Kessler is a class act but has fought nobody near a Jeff Lacy .
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=016951

    Andrande is good but still unproven . Best name on his record ? Richard Grant . To suggest Calzaghe would risk it against an unproven fighter like him is ludicrous it makes no sense whatsoever
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=036961

    Mundine good on his night but has been exposed already . Best name on his record ? Danny Green ?
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=014646


    I aggree to a certain extent that FW has held Joe C back but he has also tried to make some big fights Hopkins BOTTLED IT with Calzaghe and that is stone Cold fact !!

    Lets look at Hopkins record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001414

    His biggest wins were against Light middles any time he fought a fully blown Middle Like Eastman and Taylor he put on wholy negative performences , and then he goes in with Tarver exposes him for what he is but was it a great peformence ?

    No way !

    Look at Winkys record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003600

    Some good wins again but against fighters who had already been exposed and who were moving up in weight and or not really explosive punchers .

    He's a quality operator but a safety 1st merchant.

    Joe has fought some shit but against the proven quality he as done it the old fashioned way not taking a backward step .

    And to whoever said they would take Tim Littles over Joe Calzaghe
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004594

    .............Please shut up you idiot
    Eubank, Mitchell and Brewer were all old fighters by the time Calzcrappy beat them. Veit was never any good. And Bika and Miekirchan are not underrated. They just fucking suck. Damn these Calzcrappy groupies. They just fucking ignore the facts.

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy


    I feel like crying when i read some of the S*** that some of you lot write .


    Joe Calzaghe also bombed out Eubank , Mittchell , Viet twice and put on a clinic against Brewer .

    He's also beat some very good underated fighters such Mger Miekirchan and Sakio Bika

    He has been unlucky with injuries BUT when the bell of destiny sounded against Lacy , Calzaghe put all doubts to rest he stormed through the breech and did the business against a fully blown hard hitting RED HOT 4-1 ON FAVOURITE .

    Some of you talk so much bullplop its not funny.

    Kessler is a class act but has fought nobody near a Jeff Lacy .
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=016951

    Andrande is good but still unproven . Best name on his record ? Richard Grant . To suggest Calzaghe would risk it against an unproven fighter like him is ludicrous it makes no sense whatsoever
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=036961

    Mundine good on his night but has been exposed already . Best name on his record ? Danny Green ?
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=014646


    I aggree to a certain extent that FW has held Joe C back but he has also tried to make some big fights Hopkins BOTTLED IT with Calzaghe and that is stone Cold fact !!

    Lets look at Hopkins record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001414

    His biggest wins were against Light middles any time he fought a fully blown Middle Like Eastman and Taylor he put on wholy negative performences , and then he goes in with Tarver exposes him for what he is but was it a great peformence ?

    No way !

    Look at Winkys record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003600

    Some good wins again but against fighters who had already been exposed and who were moving up in weight and or not really explosive punchers .

    He's a quality operator but a safety 1st merchant.

    Joe has fought some S*** but against the proven quality he as done it the old fashioned way not taking a backward step .

    And to whoever said they would take Tim Littles over Joe Calzaghe
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004594

    .............Please shut up you idiot
    Eubank, Mitchell and Brewer were all old fighters by the time Calzcrappy beat them. Veit was never any good. And Bika and Miekirchan are not underrated. They just F****** suck. Damn these Calzcrappy groupies. They just F****** ignore the facts.
    HEY DEMISE YOU ARE SPOT ON CALZAGHE TALKS ABOUT JONES / JOHNSON / TARVER / HOPKINS THEY ARE ALL OLD GUY HE SHOULD HAVE SHOWED AN INTEREST WHEN THEY WE IN THERE TWENTIES DONT YOU THINK ?

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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe

    Quote Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy


    I feel like crying when i read some of the S*** that some of you lot write .


    Joe Calzaghe also bombed out Eubank , Mittchell , Viet twice and put on a clinic against Brewer .

    He's also beat some very good underated fighters such Mger Miekirchan and Sakio Bika

    He has been unlucky with injuries BUT when the bell of destiny sounded against Lacy , Calzaghe put all doubts to rest he stormed through the breech and did the business against a fully blown hard hitting RED HOT 4-1 ON FAVOURITE .

    Some of you talk so much bullplop its not funny.

    Kessler is a class act but has fought nobody near a Jeff Lacy .
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=016951

    Andrande is good but still unproven . Best name on his record ? Richard Grant . To suggest Calzaghe would risk it against an unproven fighter like him is ludicrous it makes no sense whatsoever
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=036961

    Mundine good on his night but has been exposed already . Best name on his record ? Danny Green ?
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=014646


    I aggree to a certain extent that FW has held Joe C back but he has also tried to make some big fights Hopkins BOTTLED IT with Calzaghe and that is stone Cold fact !!

    Lets look at Hopkins record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001414

    His biggest wins were against Light middles any time he fought a fully blown Middle Like Eastman and Taylor he put on wholy negative performences , and then he goes in with Tarver exposes him for what he is but was it a great peformence ?

    No way !

    Look at Winkys record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003600

    Some good wins again but against fighters who had already been exposed and who were moving up in weight and or not really explosive punchers .

    He's a quality operator but a safety 1st merchant.

    Joe has fought some S*** but against the proven quality he as done it the old fashioned way not taking a backward step .

    And to whoever said they would take Tim Littles over Joe Calzaghe
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004594

    .............Please shut up you idiot
    Eubank, Mitchell and Brewer were all old fighters by the time Calzcrappy beat them. Veit was never any good. And Bika and Miekirchan are not underrated. They just F****** suck. Damn these Calzcrappy groupies. They just F****** ignore the facts.
    HEY DEMISE YOU ARE SPOT ON CALZAGHE TALKS ABOUT JONES / JOHNSON / TARVER / HOPKINS THEY ARE ALL OLD GUY HE SHOULD HAVE SHOWED AN INTEREST WHEN THEY WE IN THERE TWENTIES DONT YOU THINK ?
    That would mean taking chances. Which is something Calzaghe will never or has ever done. That's why he's facing Manfredo and not Kessler.

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    i cant believe he's fighting manfredo and jermaine taylor is going to fight sergio mora. this is gonna be the end for the "contenders". i wonder if Manfredo stands any chance at all of upsetting Calzaghe? that would be huge for him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
    i cant believe he's fighting manfredo and jermaine taylor is going to fight sergio mora. this is gonna be the end for the "contenders". i wonder if Manfredo stands any chance at all of upsetting Calzaghe? that would be huge for him...
    At 10/1 im gunna have a bet on Manfredo because upsets do happen and he looked good in his last 2 fights loads better than in the contender series and i know Pemberton and Spina are'nt in same class as Calzaghe but you never know. I was gunna go to wales and watch it theirs meant to be 30,000 people their but i did'nt fancy been the only one shouting for Peter and having 29,999 welsh blokes kicking me in.

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    Say what you want about Calzaghe, the Lacy victory was a great win. And he took a big chance in that fight. Of course it ended up that Lacy was completely out of his element but regardless...it was an awesome win for Calzaghe. One in 10 years though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amat
    Say what you want about Calzaghe, the Lacy victory was a great win. And he took a big chance in that fight. Of course it ended up that Lacy was completely out of his element but regardless...it was an awesome win for Calzaghe. One in 10 years though.
    1 good win in ten year is'nt good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy


    I feel like crying when i read some of the S*** that some of you lot write .


    Joe Calzaghe also bombed out Eubank , Mittchell , Viet twice and put on a clinic against Brewer .

    He's also beat some very good underated fighters such Mger Miekirchan and Sakio Bika

    He has been unlucky with injuries BUT when the bell of destiny sounded against Lacy , Calzaghe put all doubts to rest he stormed through the breech and did the business against a fully blown hard hitting RED HOT 4-1 ON FAVOURITE .

    Some of you talk so much bullplop its not funny.

    Kessler is a class act but has fought nobody near a Jeff Lacy .
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=016951

    Andrande is good but still unproven . Best name on his record ? Richard Grant . To suggest Calzaghe would risk it against an unproven fighter like him is ludicrous it makes no sense whatsoever
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=036961


    Mundine good on his night but has been exposed already . Best name on his record ? Danny Green ?
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=014646


    I aggree to a certain extent that FW has held Joe C back but he has also tried to make some big fights Hopkins BOTTLED IT with Calzaghe and that is stone Cold fact !!

    Lets look at Hopkins record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=001414

    His biggest wins were against Light middles any time he fought a fully blown Middle Like Eastman and Taylor he put on wholy negative performences , and then he goes in with Tarver exposes him for what he is but was it a great peformence ?

    No way !

    Look at Winkys record
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=003600

    Some good wins again but against fighters who had already been exposed and who were moving up in weight and or not really explosive punchers .

    He's a quality operator but a safety 1st merchant.


    And to whoever said they would take Tim Littles over Joe Calzaghe
    http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=004594

    .............Please shut up you idiot
    eubank was shot and had if i remember right 10 days notice to fight calzaghe and was weight drained why did he fight veit twice when he stopped him in 1st round 1st time

    hopkins may of not won em all but oscar dela hoya felix trinidad blow away who calzaghe has faced

    andrade oh so what your saying is he shouldnt risk it on underfeated prospect but should risk it on peter manfredo who lost on reality tv show to club fighter

    winky wright has beaten shane mosley twice felix trinidad a draw against underfeated and considered best middleweight at moment winky has fought much much better opponents than calzaghe


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    Can I just ask what risks Bernard Hopkins or Roy Jones Jnr took during their primes?

    I reckon I can name a lot more people that both of them should have fought and didn't that anybody can name that Calzaghe should've fought and didn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIG H
    Can I just ask what risks Bernard Hopkins or Roy Jones Jnr took during their primes?

    I reckon I can name a lot more people that both of them should have fought and didn't that anybody can name that Calzaghe should've fought and didn't
    ill do list for you mate

    roy jones

    james toney
    bernard hopkins
    clinton woods
    thulani malinga who had beaten benn and lost sd to chris eubank
    montel griffin
    virgil hill
    reggie johnson lost close decision to james toney also was first man to floor toney

    all of these fights were risks

    bernard hopkins

    howard eastman
    felix trinidad 40-0 at that time
    oscar dela hoya

    all risky fights

    hopkins may of not had as many risky fights but eastman trinidad and oscar are twice as good as calzaghe opponents shame calzaghe wernt born few years later he would of been in era of benn eubank collins

    but i will say this calzaghe was bit unlucky aswell to be fair i mean he offered hopkins fight and he priced himself out and then he was going to fight steve collins and he pulled out due to injury


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    Default Re: Joe Calzaghe

    Joe is 2nd best supermiddle now in my opinion Kesslers number 1 he's doing more than Joe and he wants to fight Joe and as done for a while Joe has to step up Kessler is 10 times better than Lacy.His last 3 fights have been top opposition aswell Mundine UD12,Lucas TKO10 and Beyer KO3 and next he's fighting Andrade who is a dangerous kid 24-0 compare that to what joe's been fighting and Kessler has to be number 1

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    Give it a few months and I might agree with you, Joe is holding on to top spot by the skin of his teeth. That said Beyer was cooked and Lucas was always average. Fair play to him for going over to Oz and beating Mundine handily though, Mundine is apparently really good now?
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