Hatton is handpicked by PBF... this is blasphemy, but please hear me out.

[El Gamo]

Interesting post Gyro and for all intents and purposes,I agree. Mayweather is a phenomenal talent,I am a huge fan of his skills BUT he is also,as he has stated on NUMEROUS occasions,a businessman. He fights for the most $$$..and usualy for the least risk. His career,from a very early stage as designed so that he could secure a fight with Oscar De La Hoya. Even after some of his fights at 135,he would mention Oscar and he made sure he stayed undefeated until he fought De La Hoya.

This can be seen from his fights at 140 and 147 where he most of his opponents were either old,unknown or coming off losses. ANYONE who disagrees with this notion,please by all means,disprove it. He beat Oscar and actually wanted a rematch with the guy he just beat, a part time fighter/promoter, WTF was that about? 147 is super hot right now and he was calling out Oscar again?!?

Anyway,Hatton beats JLC and now wants Floyd,I'll give Floyd credit for fighting him but it's a smart BUSINESS move. Hatton is less dangerous than Margarito,Cotto and Mosley. Mayweather knows he can beat Hatton,make big $$$ and its relatively low risk compared to the other guys calling him out. The only point I THINK I disagree with Gyro,is that Hatton is a good fighter and Floyd deserves credit for taking the fight.

HOWEVER,he would get more credit for cleaning out 147,I mean that would cement his legacy forever,and he would be a top 15 ATG imo.He was amazing at 130/135 but if you look at his resume at 140 and 147 it's been far from impressive. THAT'S why he has critics.

A win over Hatton would be impressive,but I still want him to fight the Cotto/Margarito/Mosley's etc. How the hell will he deny the winner of the WW tournament?

So,I agree with most of what have you said Gyro.Good posting,it was original,refreshing.

[Dorfmeister]

Interesting post Gyro and for all intents and purposes,I agree. Mayweather is a phenomenal talent,I am a huge fan of his skills BUT he is also,as he has stated on NUMEROUS occasions,a businessman. He fights for the most $$$..and usualy for the least risk. His career,from a very early stage as designed so that he could secure a fight with Oscar De La Hoya. Even after some of his fights at 135,he would mention Oscar and he made sure he stayed undefeated until he fought De La Hoya.

This can be seen from his fights at 140 and 147 where he most of his opponents were either old,unknown or coming off losses. ANYONE who disagrees with this notion,please by all means,disprove it. He beat Oscar and actually wanted a rematch with the guy he just beat, a part time fighter/promoter, WTF was that about? 147 is super hot right now and he was calling out Oscar again?!?

Anyway,Hatton beats JLC and now wants Floyd,I'll give Floyd credit for fighting him but it's a smart BUSINESS move. Hatton is less dangerous than Margarito,Cotto and Mosley. Mayweather knows he can beat Hatton,make big $$$ and its relatively low risk compared to the other guys calling him out. The only point I THINK I disagree with Gyro,is that Hatton is a good fighter and Floyd deserves credit for taking the fight.

HOWEVER,he would get more credit for cleaning out 147,I mean that would cement his legacy forever,and he would be a top 15 ATG imo.He was amazing at 130/135 but if you look at his resume at 140 and 147 it's been far from impressive. THAT'S why he has critics.

A win over Hatton would be impressive,but I still want him to fight the Cotto/Margarito/Mosley's etc. How the hell will he deny the winner of the WW tournament?

So,I agree with most of what have you said Gyro.Good posting,it was original,refreshing.

Very interesting Gyro post and most realistic Gamo's reply. I just would like to add that Floyd was looking for that Hoya fight ever since he was fighting in Fresno, CA for the WBC Lightweight Title and strugglin with Victoriano Sosa. He somehow lost the logical sequence of fights he was having such as against Phillip NDou ( marvellous Floyd display of sharpness and ability) and started travelling fast through the intermediate weight classes to build the weight and conserve his skills and thus reach that goal or business plan... Even though he was able to take all what his opponents delivered, I guess it is clear he came too fast and still doesn't have the genuine strength he showed under 140 lbs... He'll have to use those hit and move tactics always against natural welters and dangerous hitters, maybe against lighter Ricky he can com'on a lil bit more just like he did against Chop Chop and not just hit him with blazing counters from mid-range, that would prepare him more to fight the welters next in 2008...

[JT Rock]

Yea well, I guess this all just becomes mute when Floyd beats Hatton and then whomever wins the Welterweight Tournament...

Then you guys will find something else to pick apart... and then the story will be repeated over and over just like you guys will proclaim The Latest And Greatest Next Mayweather Slayer who will fall like the rest 


The thing I love the best, is that your bitching lines Mayweather's pockets with cash, the man is highly publicized and name is brought up more and more whether its negative or not.... So while the keyboard warriors Boo Hoo about his career, he is busy counting his money, enjoying his family and living the dream.....

I think Floyd should have an appreciation day for the detractors, for help making him famous 

[Punisher136]

Yea well, I guess thi all just becomes mute when Floyd beats Hatton and then whomever wins the Welterweight Tournament...

Then you guys will find something else to pick apart... and then the story will be repeated over and over just like The Latest And Greatest Next Mayweather Slayer who will fall like the rest


The thing I lover the best, is that your bitching lines Mayweather's pockets with cash, the man is highly publicized and name is brought up more and more whether its negative or not.... So while the keyboard warriors Boo Hoo about his career, he is busy counting his money, enjoying his family and living the dream.....

I think Floyd should have an appreciation day for the detractors, for help making him famous

Floyd's been ducking wlad for years now and i don't wanna hear the excuses. "He weighs 100 pounds more than me" What a joke and an utter waste of talent.

[warreng]

Although i think margarito would be to big for hatton id give hatton a better chance against mayweather also i give mosely the best chance of beating floyd

[Dorfmeister]

Yea well, I guess this all just becomes mute when Floyd beats Hatton and then whomever wins the Welterweight Tournament...

Then you guys will find something else to pick apart... and then the story will be repeated over and over just like you guys will proclaim The Latest And Greatest Next Mayweather Slayer who will fall like the rest


The thing I love the best, is that your bitching lines Mayweather's pockets with cash, the man is highly publicized and name is brought up more and more whether its negative or not.... So while the keyboard warriors Boo Hoo about his career, he is busy counting his money, enjoying his family and living the dream.....

I think Floyd should have an appreciation day for the detractors, for help making him famous

I would like to understand why JT Rock thinks I/We want to pick with, find someone to slay Mayweather or just write "bitching" lines about the guy... If there are persons who criticize Mayweather for fighting Hatton or for any of the many reasons he has given us, he and his supporters should look into that and adjust... But then maybe not cause in Floyd's and his fans minds, this is all about having Floyd defeated - remember Larry asking about people leaving the building in round ten Baldomir's post fight interview and Floyd exploding about Larry keeping fingers crossed, then crying out lout and announcing retirement? And how come he is filling his pockets if before the fight Hoya granted him with, he was sucking tiny tit in places like Fresno, California? He can't fight Hoya back and back again so he better find some other good idea or else his dream may not last long?!... This is all about PBF fanatics firing back at his so-called "detractors" or so it seems...

[El Gamo]

If Floyd beats Hatton and the winner of the WW tournament,he totally has my respect. If he fights Hatton,will Ricky not become the best name on his resume with Oscar? And then the WW winner will be added to that. Leading to the question,WTF did he fight at 140/147.

[Eli_jr24]

Here is what is going to happen.

(1) (july) Margarito beats Williams. (KO)
(2) (this year) Cotto defeats Margarito (UD)
(3) (Nov) Mayweather defeats Hatton. (UD) I see the same fight PBF had with Oscar. Run, run hit run.
(4) (Nov) Tito defeats RJJ (KO) late round stoppage. I wanted to give it RJ, but I don't think he can take Tito's punch.
(4) (Jun 0 Cotto defeats Mosley (KO) Fight of the Year!! (Yankee stadium?) Why not!!!
(6) (Fall 0 Tito defeats Mosley (KO) Retirement bout! Winner goes out on top in style!
(5) (Fall 0 Cotto defeats Mayweather (SD). Cotto throws way more than Hatton and that will bring PBF trouble.
(7) (Spring 09) Oscar defeats Cotto (SD) Oscar goes out in style by defeat 147's best or 154?!
( (spring 09) Mosley defeats Mayweather (UD) Too difficult to call! Mosley finally retires!
(9) (winter 09) Tito defeats Cotto KO) Non-deffesinsive Cotto will not be able to hold Tito's punch.
(10) (Summer 2010) Mayweather defeats Tito (UD). Wow! So who will be our P4P then?

Hatton stays at 140 after he looses to PBF. I like hatton alot as a fighter but PBF is going to run and not let Hatton do his thing. Cotto is deffinately the strongest at 147 and Top rank - Golden Boy Pr. have alreayd been talking about an agreement for next year from the winner of Cotto-Maragrito against Sugar Shane. Why not yankee stadium? right? Boxing needs 2 toe to toe fighters in a stadium! This will sell big!!! Escially if they do it the night before the PR parade. Wow! Tito then fights Mosley at 154 and Destroys him. Cotto then pulls a close decision on Mayweather giving Mayweather his 1st defeat. Oscar then seeks the oppertunity and challenges Cotto and beats him in a slugfest. Tito then Ko's Cotto in the biggest PPV bout in Puerto Rico History. Then Mayweather calls it quits after a remarkable display of boxing when he defeats Tito.

Boxing needs a 12 man tournament. At least an 8. from 140-154. The best of the best for the P4P title. Why not?

Tito, Oscar, Cotto,PBF, Hatton, Mosley, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Simms etc.

[Dorfmeister]

If Floyd beats Hatton and the winner of the WW tournament,he totally has my respect. If he fights Hatton,will Ricky not become the best name on his resume with Oscar? And then the WW winner will be added to that. Leading to the question,WTF did he fight at 140/147.

Gamo, he already has my respect and all other fighter's so what's the point of disrespecting them, yo know, Hoya is a bitch, Shane is a sparring partner and need to put money on the table, Tony is not in his plateau, Cotto is a good "little" fighter, Hatton has a beer tub, Gatti is a C+ fighter, what's the point in all this? Like he needs to be an ass-hole and say stupid childish stuff to get attention like a lil brat? I think Floyd beats Hatton easy, would beat Shane and Tony on the back pedal and would totally out-class Cotto but he's sooooo worried about the risk of losing and that claim of him being a "legend" he may well not take any top welter in fact, this is my last post to this subject - Floyd doesn't deserve any more attention!!!

[gyrokai]

So while the keyboard warriors Boo Hoo about his career, he is busy counting his money, ...

I've thought about that. Being a keyboad warrior. But right now I need this site more than it needs me.
If that makes sense. It's a place I can make my thoughts clear. One day, you never know ... I'm going to leave this place and become an amatuer trainer. But in the meantime, I'm defining my time to maybe work me into that. Hey, I love boxing. I think I have a nose for smelling out good fighters. I smelled Valero even before Doug Fischer's articles, but Dougie is the best writer, so he's the man. Mayweather can keep counting his money, while I enjoy my favorite sport. But he ain't foolin' me. haha

heheheh

[JonesJrMayweather]

Here is what is going to happen.

(1) (july) Margarito beats Williams. (KO)
(2) (this year) Cotto defeats Margarito (UD)
(3) (Nov) Mayweather defeats Hatton. (UD) I see the same fight PBF had with Oscar. Run, run hit run.
(4) (Nov) Tito defeats RJJ (KO) late round stoppage. I wanted to give it RJ, but I don't think he can take Tito's punch.
(4) (Jun 0 Cotto defeats Mosley (KO) Fight of the Year!! (Yankee stadium?) Why not!!!
(6) (Fall 0 Tito defeats Mosley (KO) Retirement bout! Winner goes out on top in style!
(5) (Fall 0 Cotto defeats Mayweather (SD). Cotto throws way more than Hatton and that will bring PBF trouble.
(7) (Spring 09) Oscar defeats Cotto (SD) Oscar goes out in style by defeat 147's best or 154?!
( (spring 09) Mosley defeats Mayweather (UD) Too difficult to call! Mosley finally retires!
(9) (winter 09) Tito defeats Cotto KO) Non-deffesinsive Cotto will not be able to hold Tito's punch.
(10) (Summer 2010) Mayweather defeats Tito (UD). Wow! So who will be our P4P then?

Hatton stays at 140 after he looses to PBF. I like hatton alot as a fighter but PBF is going to run and not let Hatton do his thing. Cotto is deffinately the strongest at 147 and Top rank - Golden Boy Pr. have alreayd been talking about an agreement for next year from the winner of Cotto-Maragrito against Sugar Shane. Why not yankee stadium? right? Boxing needs 2 toe to toe fighters in a stadium! This will sell big!!! Escially if they do it the night before the PR parade. Wow! Tito then fights Mosley at 154 and Destroys him. Cotto then pulls a close decision on Mayweather giving Mayweather his 1st defeat. Oscar then seeks the oppertunity and challenges Cotto and beats him in a slugfest. Tito then Ko's Cotto in the biggest PPV bout in Puerto Rico History. Then Mayweather calls it quits after a remarkable display of boxing when he defeats Tito.

Boxing needs a 12 man tournament. At least an 8. from 140-154. The best of the best for the P4P title. Why not?

Tito, Oscar, Cotto,PBF, Hatton, Mosley, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Simms etc.

you must be a cotto fan...because he'd beat delahoya and tito on the same night before he beats mayweather or shane....

[Dorfmeister]

Here is what is going to happen.

(1) (july) Margarito beats Williams. (KO)
(2) (this year) Cotto defeats Margarito (UD)
(3) (Nov) Mayweather defeats Hatton. (UD) I see the same fight PBF had with Oscar. Run, run hit run.
(4) (Nov) Tito defeats RJJ (KO) late round stoppage. I wanted to give it RJ, but I don't think he can take Tito's punch.
(4) (Jun 0 Cotto defeats Mosley (KO) Fight of the Year!! (Yankee stadium?) Why not!!!
(6) (Fall 0 Tito defeats Mosley (KO) Retirement bout! Winner goes out on top in style!
(5) (Fall 0 Cotto defeats Mayweather (SD). Cotto throws way more than Hatton and that will bring PBF trouble.
(7) (Spring 09) Oscar defeats Cotto (SD) Oscar goes out in style by defeat 147's best or 154?!
( (spring 09) Mosley defeats Mayweather (UD) Too difficult to call! Mosley finally retires!
(9) (winter 09) Tito defeats Cotto KO) Non-deffesinsive Cotto will not be able to hold Tito's punch.
(10) (Summer 2010) Mayweather defeats Tito (UD). Wow! So who will be our P4P then?

Hatton stays at 140 after he looses to PBF. I like hatton alot as a fighter but PBF is going to run and not let Hatton do his thing. Cotto is deffinately the strongest at 147 and Top rank - Golden Boy Pr. have alreayd been talking about an agreement for next year from the winner of Cotto-Maragrito against Sugar Shane. Why not yankee stadium? right? Boxing needs 2 toe to toe fighters in a stadium! This will sell big!!! Escially if they do it the night before the PR parade. Wow! Tito then fights Mosley at 154 and Destroys him. Cotto then pulls a close decision on Mayweather giving Mayweather his 1st defeat. Oscar then seeks the oppertunity and challenges Cotto and beats him in a slugfest. Tito then Ko's Cotto in the biggest PPV bout in Puerto Rico History. Then Mayweather calls it quits after a remarkable display of boxing when he defeats Tito.

Boxing needs a 12 man tournament. At least an 8. from 140-154. The best of the best for the P4P title. Why not?

Tito, Oscar, Cotto,PBF, Hatton, Mosley, Margarito, Judah, Williams, Simms etc.

you must be a cotto fan...because he'd beat delahoya and tito on the same night before he beats mayweather or shane....

I second that, Tony is the most menacing snatcher out there and it doesn't take Floyd or Shane, Margarito will came in bursting up and twisting Paul Williams entire mid section with fists, forearms and elbows and then will be shaking Miguel's big head like he's shaking eggs - I definitely feel Tony is very, very dangerous...