Delray Raines V.S. Tarvis Simms

[XaduBoxer]

No,I have yet to begin insulting his manager

You know very well how it feels if your boxer will be looked down... Or your efforts to promote your boxer will be ridiculed...

You're a trainer, right?
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Please do me a favor and don't come "save the day"... Raines went above and beyond how he was expected to... Congrats to him as to fight above your level and to perform well is a great contribution to his character as well as his career...

But...

To even attempt to call this sideshow a "promoter" is a farce... This kid did it on training, will and heart...

Congrats to him and all the best to his career in the future. Simms is a good fighter. He proved his medal!

I was here when this thread started and I even gave this Delray guy 33% chance of winning purely based on his manager's/trainer's pronouncements here... I believed on what his manager said about the guy earlier...
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[Ghost]

[boozeboxer]

Delray might as well be Juilious Raines.

[SOB]

You know very well how it feels if your boxer will be looked down... Or your efforts to promote your boxer will be ridiculed...

You're a trainer, right?
.

Well thanks Saddo Boxer ! I appreciate the cool words.And these
guys don't like me being here. Is why the talk the kid down. I know
what I did in boxing and I know what I am doing. I love the sport
that has become my life !And I come here to tell about my kid and
how good I think he did , They try to get me to flame at them so
they can try and get me banned because they think as long as I am
here , they feel their boxing knowledge is threatened.But I was
banned here before for putting up my fight posters about my charity
fights for Autism , because my youngest two sons were diagnosed
with it about 4 years ago. After getting ran out ,I Never came back
until the one Known as Boston Pride was ripping on a friend of mine
on his Trailer Park Radio show , I thought it was NOT cool so I lashed
back at him , So a few of the haters got me banned ! I since
then talked to the Administrator ! And have promised only to come here in
peace ! But I will throw a few stones back on occasion !And as
far as their mean statements its fun to listen to their side of the
story of boxing and what they think of me and whats goes on,
In the real world of boxing based on something they read or heard
on T.V. But I think they know I give it very little consideration
as being anything to take to serious , Or least I would think
they wouldn't

[XaduBoxer]

You know very well how it feels if your boxer will be looked down... Or your efforts to promote your boxer will be ridiculed...

You're a trainer, right?
.

Well thanks Saddo Boxer ! I appreciate the cool words.And these
guys don't like me being here. Is why the talk the kid down. I know
what I did in boxing and I know what I am doing. I love the sport
that has become my life !And I come here to tell about my kid and
how good I think he did , They try to get me to flame at them so
they can try and get me banned because they think as long as I am
here , they feel their boxing knowledge is threatened.But I was
banned here before for putting up my fight posters about my charity
fights for Autism , because my youngest two sons were diagnosed
with it about 4 years ago. After getting ran out ,I Never came back
until the one Known as Boston Pride was ripping on a friend of mine
on his Trailer Park Radio show , I thought it was NOT cool so I lashed
back at him , So a few of the haters got me banned ! I since
then talked to the Administrator ! And have promised only to come here in
peace ! But I will throw a few stones back on occasion !And as
far as their mean statements its fun to listen to their side of the
story of boxing and what they think of me and whats goes on,
In the real world of boxing based on something they read or heard
on T.V. But I think they know I give it very little consideration
as being anything to take to serious , Or least I would think
they wouldn't

Cool man... You've been in the real world boxing business for so long... You've promoted/managed world champs, contenders, prospects, you name it all... You handled various situations in real boxing world and I'm sure you can handle the things here...

And to add that you're a former boxer and your wife is a former boxing world champ... I think that sums it all about your boxing credibility...

We will just keep it cool and discuss boxing objectively...
.

.

[CFH]

You know very well how it feels if your boxer will be looked down... Or your efforts to promote your boxer will be ridiculed...

You're a trainer, right?
.

Well thanks Saddo Boxer ! I appreciate the cool words.And these
guys don't like me being here. Is why the talk the kid down. I know
what I did in boxing and I know what I am doing. I love the sport
that has become my life !And I come here to tell about my kid and
how good I think he did , They try to get me to flame at them so
they can try and get me banned because they think as long as I am
here , they feel their boxing knowledge is threatened.But I was
banned here before for putting up my fight posters about my charity
fights for Autism , because my youngest two sons were diagnosed
with it about 4 years ago. After getting ran out ,I Never came back
until the one Known as Boston Pride was ripping on a friend of mine
on his Trailer Park Radio show , I thought it was NOT cool so I lashed
back at him , So a few of the haters got me banned ! I since
then talked to the Administrator ! And have promised only to come here in
peace ! But I will throw a few stones back on occasion !And as
far as their mean statements its fun to listen to their side of the
story of boxing and what they think of me and whats goes on,
In the real world of boxing based on something they read or heard
on T.V. But I think they know I give it very little consideration
as being anything to take to serious , Or least I would think
they wouldn't

Cool man... You've been in the real world boxing business for so long... You've promoted/managed world champs, contenders, prospects, you name it all... You handled various situations in real boxing world and I'm sure you can handle the things here...

And to add that you're a former boxer and your wife is a former boxing world champ... I think that sums it all about your boxing credibility...

We will just keep it cool and discuss boxing objectively...
.

.

He has about as much credibility as the guy downtown trying to sell you a "Gucci" bag.

[XaduBoxer]

Well thanks Saddo Boxer ! I appreciate the cool words.And these
guys don't like me being here. Is why the talk the kid down. I know
what I did in boxing and I know what I am doing. I love the sport
that has become my life !And I come here to tell about my kid and
how good I think he did , They try to get me to flame at them so
they can try and get me banned because they think as long as I am
here , they feel their boxing knowledge is threatened.But I was
banned here before for putting up my fight posters about my charity
fights for Autism , because my youngest two sons were diagnosed
with it about 4 years ago. After getting ran out ,I Never came back
until the one Known as Boston Pride was ripping on a friend of mine
on his Trailer Park Radio show , I thought it was NOT cool so I lashed
back at him , So a few of the haters got me banned ! I since
then talked to the Administrator ! And have promised only to come here in
peace ! But I will throw a few stones back on occasion !And as
far as their mean statements its fun to listen to their side of the
story of boxing and what they think of me and whats goes on,
In the real world of boxing based on something they read or heard
on T.V. But I think they know I give it very little consideration
as being anything to take to serious , Or least I would think
they wouldn't

Cool man... You've been in the real world boxing business for so long... You've promoted/managed world champs, contenders, prospects, you name it all... You handled various situations in real boxing world and I'm sure you can handle the things here...

And to add that you're a former boxer and your wife is a former boxing world champ... I think that sums it all about your boxing credibility...

We will just keep it cool and discuss boxing objectively...
.

He has about as much credibility as the guy downtown trying to sell you a "Gucci" bag.

That's your opinion... I think Mr. SOB just wanted to promote his fighters and at the same time promote the sport of boxing...

Nothing wrong with that...
.

[SOB]

Well thanks Saddo Boxer ! I appreciate the cool words.And these
guys don't like me being here. Is why the talk the kid down. I know
what I did in boxing and I know what I am doing. I love the sport
that has become my life !And I come here to tell about my kid and
how good I think he did , They try to get me to flame at them so
they can try and get me banned because they think as long as I am
here , they feel their boxing knowledge is threatened.But I was
banned here before for putting up my fight posters about my charity
fights for Autism , because my youngest two sons were diagnosed
with it about 4 years ago. After getting ran out ,I Never came back
until the one Known as Boston Pride was ripping on a friend of mine
on his Trailer Park Radio show , I thought it was NOT cool so I lashed
back at him , So a few of the haters got me banned ! I since
then talked to the Administrator ! And have promised only to come here in
peace ! But I will throw a few stones back on occasion !And as
far as their mean statements its fun to listen to their side of the
story of boxing and what they think of me and whats goes on,
In the real world of boxing based on something they read or heard
on T.V. But I think they know I give it very little consideration
as being anything to take to serious , Or least I would think
they wouldn't

Cool man... You've been in the real world boxing business for so long... You've promoted/managed world champs, contenders, prospects, you name it all... You handled various situations in real boxing world and I'm sure you can handle the things here...

And to add that you're a former boxer and your wife is a former boxing world champ... I think that sums it all about your boxing credibility...

We will just keep it cool and discuss boxing objectively...
.

.

He has about as much credibility as the guy downtown trying to sell you a "Gucci" bag.

Call my show tonight !!!!! Tell me about it lol !

[CFH]

Cool man... You've been in the real world boxing business for so long... You've promoted/managed world champs, contenders, prospects, you name it all... You handled various situations in real boxing world and I'm sure you can handle the things here...

And to add that you're a former boxer and your wife is a former boxing world champ... I think that sums it all about your boxing credibility...

We will just keep it cool and discuss boxing objectively...
.

He has about as much credibility as the guy downtown trying to sell you a "Gucci" bag.

That's your opinion... I think Mr. SOB just wanted to promote his fighters and at the same time promote the sport of boxing...

Nothing wrong with that...
.

It is my opinion and that of many others. He wants to promote himself and his fighters in order to make himself as much money as possible, nothing else. He does not look out for their well being, as demonstrated by the mismatches he throws them into.

You're a gibbering idiot if you believe he's doing anything positive for "the sport of boxing" or that he does anything for any other reason than getting himself exposure and making money.

This whole SOB, Kid Thunder, Zelenoff bullshit is nothing but a viral marketing campaign, if you can't see that you're blind.

[CFH]

Cool man... You've been in the real world boxing business for so long... You've promoted/managed world champs, contenders, prospects, you name it all... You handled various situations in real boxing world and I'm sure you can handle the things here...

And to add that you're a former boxer and your wife is a former boxing world champ... I think that sums it all about your boxing credibility...

We will just keep it cool and discuss boxing objectively...
.

.

He has about as much credibility as the guy downtown trying to sell you a "Gucci" bag.

Call my show tonight !!!!! Tell me about it lol !

Go fuck yourself .

[XaduBoxer]

He has about as much credibility as the guy downtown trying to sell you a "Gucci" bag.

That's your opinion... I think Mr. SOB just wanted to promote his fighters and at the same time promote the sport of boxing...

Nothing wrong with that...
.

It is my opinion and that of many others. He wants to promote himself and his fighters in order to make himself as much money as possible, nothing else. He does not look out for their well being, as demonstrated by the mismatches he throws them into.

You're a gibbering idiot if you believe he's doing anything positive for "the sport of boxing" or that he does anything for any other reason than getting himself exposure and making money.

This whole SOB, Kid Thunder, Zelenoff bullshit is nothing but a viral marketing campaign, if you can't see that you're blind.

I'm just talking about this thread regarding Raines vs. Simms fight... If you have other issues (Kid Thunder, Zelenoff) with him that I have no comments...
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[CFH]

That's your opinion... I think Mr. SOB just wanted to promote his fighters and at the same time promote the sport of boxing...

Nothing wrong with that...
.

It is my opinion and that of many others. He wants to promote himself and his fighters in order to make himself as much money as possible, nothing else. He does not look out for their well being, as demonstrated by the mismatches he throws them into.

You're a gibbering idiot if you believe he's doing anything positive for "the sport of boxing" or that he does anything for any other reason than getting himself exposure and making money.

This whole SOB, Kid Thunder, Zelenoff bullshit is nothing but a viral marketing campaign, if you can't see that you're blind.

I'm just talking about this thread regarding Raines vs. Simms fight... If you have other issues (Kid Thunder, Zelenoff) with him that I have no comments...
.

But you can't make sweeping judgements about his character and intentions based on only this post. He clearly threw Raines into a fight in which he had almost no chance in order to make money and drum up publicity. His prior posting show that his only intention is to promote himself. He's already been banned from this board on 2 separate occasions.

That the kid did much better than expected (the fact that he lost every round on all the score cards and is still considered to have done way better than expected against a 37 yr old fighter with 11KOs coming off a 13 month layoff will tell you exactly how much of a mismatch this was) does not negate SOB's intentions.

However, he gets attention with this stuff, so it's clearly working for him.

[XaduBoxer]

It is my opinion and that of many others. He wants to promote himself and his fighters in order to make himself as much money as possible, nothing else. He does not look out for their well being, as demonstrated by the mismatches he throws them into.

You're a gibbering idiot if you believe he's doing anything positive for "the sport of boxing" or that he does anything for any other reason than getting himself exposure and making money.

This whole SOB, Kid Thunder, Zelenoff bullshit is nothing but a viral marketing campaign, if you can't see that you're blind.

I'm just talking about this thread regarding Raines vs. Simms fight... If you have other issues (Kid Thunder, Zelenoff) with him that I have no comments...
.

But you can't make sweeping judgements about his character and intentions based on only this post. He clearly threw Raines into a fight in which he had almost no chance in order to make money and drum up publicity. His prior posting show that his only intention is to promote himself. He's already been banned from this board on 2 separate occasions.

That the kid did much better than expected (the fact that he lost every round on all the score cards and is still considered to have done way better than expected against a 37 yr old fighter with 11KOs coming off a 13 month layoff will tell you exactly how much of a mismatch this was) does not negate SOB's intentions.

However, he gets attention with this stuff, so it's clearly working for him.

Do you know him personally?

I just posted what I know about him from what I've read... That he's a promoter/manager, a former boxer and his wife is a former boxing world champ... That's all...

I also don't know this guy on personal level BTW...
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[CFH]

I'm just talking about this thread regarding Raines vs. Simms fight... If you have other issues (Kid Thunder, Zelenoff) with him that I have no comments...
.

But you can't make sweeping judgements about his character and intentions based on only this post. He clearly threw Raines into a fight in which he had almost no chance in order to make money and drum up publicity. His prior posting show that his only intention is to promote himself. He's already been banned from this board on 2 separate occasions.

That the kid did much better than expected (the fact that he lost every round on all the score cards and is still considered to have done way better than expected against a 37 yr old fighter with 11KOs coming off a 13 month layoff will tell you exactly how much of a mismatch this was) does not negate SOB's intentions.

However, he gets attention with this stuff, so it's clearly working for him.

Do you know him personally?

I just posted what I know about him from what I've read... That he's a promoter/manager, a former boxer and his wife is a former boxing world champ... That's all...

I also don't know this guy on personal level BTW...
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Personally? As in face to face? What a ridiculous question. What does it matter if I know him personally? I wasn't aware I had to know an individual intimately in order to give my opinion on their actions.

I know about him because of #1 his incredibly suspect actions in regards to his dealing with his fighters and #2 because of his idiotic postings on here. It doesn't take much of a brain to figure out this is nothing but a marketing ploy.

As for his wife being a "former champion", while I have no doubt she could probably kick my ass, according to boxrec she has beaten a grand total of 2 fighers with winning records (7-3-1, 3-0. The 3-0 fighter's 3 previous wins were also against her). I don't say that as an indictment of her or her abilities, but lets keep things in perspective here.

[Spicoli]

You don't have to know him personally to comprehend what exactly is going on or understand the agenda.I have no indifference to the fighter and hope he keeps working at it...best of luck,but often promoters over shadow and make themselves the issue at hand with a condescending and "look at me" attitude.We are fans here,Not "Wanna-be's" burger king.Instead of discussing the fight facts and topic.....You make yourself the center of attention....then attention you shale recieve.Agenda's....everyone has them . Maybe you should sell him a car S.B?