Ward versus Rodriguez card HBO/Box Nation

[Spicoli]

I didn't think Ward was that dirty at all tonight His footwork and radar are tremendous. The other guy only came to spoil and try to make it a street fight, and he was tough as nails.

He fought a Helluva fight. The detraction is a case of whats become expected or previous bias..with Dawson and this he has done nothing but impress...Rodriquez was warned 6 times in the 1st two rounds

[p4pking]

I love boxing, but I know what I like, and I have seldom enjoyed an Andre Ward fight. This had all the Ward trademarks. Hugging, butting, absurd nickname and attempts at cheating. Take away those and I would like him more.

Oops, didn't mean to like that post. You're about the stupidest smart person I've ever encountered Miles, and you offer absolutely nothing but negativity in regards to boxing around here. It was a good performance from Ward, who gives a fuck what you think.

Am I supposed to say "Oh, I love the grappling, it stimulates me. Also, please keep on attempting to break the rules and get disqualified and most certainly headbutt the other guy at the end to put the icing on the cake". Forgive me for not being on the point of orgasm like some other people.

I couldn't give a hoot if anyone agrees with me, I follow my path. My point of view is as valid as anyone's and some just don't like that I would be mean to the self annointed, American SOG, who also happens to be the dirtiest man in boxing. He's a cheat.

My posts are not always negative, but they are when they talk about negative things. Ward is a negative boxer.

Rodriguez tried to break the rules FAR more than Ward tonight, Andre fought a pretty clean fight I thought. And your posts really are almost all negative, I mean come on. Why did you watch the fight if you have such a predisposed opinion, who cares what any fighter is like out of the ring. You'd rather watch James Toney than Andre Ward currently, that tells me you are basically clueless as a boxing fan. I like you as a person, but just don't get why you don't do something about your shit given the way you post around here.

[Kirkland Laing]

Currently watching Collins Benn one on BN. Amazed I'm still awake tonight.

[Gandalf]

Pavlik would knock Ward out, it's a shame it didn't happen. Rogriguez actually threw a few in the 11th and Ward was looking anxious and went back into huggy bear mode. Lame.

You should try your hand at comedy.

So should you. Using the word incredible to describe any aspect of that fight is utterly hilarious.

Nice. I like those "I know you are but what am I" responses. The guy has incredible feet, incredible defense, uses his eyes like Floyd does and rarely if ever gets hit cleanly. He has incredible punch selection, a mule kick for a jab and rarely misses a punch. Other then that he's pretty regular.

He has skills and a sharp boxers brain, but he uses it very negatively. James Toney is an example of someone with all the skills, but you don't see him holding and constantly trying to cheat. Even at 45 James Toney just fights, that is what I enjoy. None of my favourite fighters employ the tactics that Ward employs.

I cannot stand people like Ward, Wlad or sometimes Hopkins. They are negative to the extreme. They use their brains, but they are not styles that I can enjoy.

[armin]

Good performance by ward, but rodriguez didn't offer much other than the ability to take shot after shot. Id like to see the froch rematch as I think he's the only credible challenger , I know ward done beat him but who else is there without moving up in weight or ggg comin up...

[Kirkland Laing]

Ha. I just saw myself on the telly.

[Gandalf]

I love boxing, but I know what I like, and I have seldom enjoyed an Andre Ward fight. This had all the Ward trademarks. Hugging, butting, absurd nickname and attempts at cheating. Take away those and I would like him more.

Oops, didn't mean to like that post. You're about the stupidest smart person I've ever encountered Miles, and you offer absolutely nothing but negativity in regards to boxing around here. It was a good performance from Ward, who gives a fuck what you think.

Am I supposed to say "Oh, I love the grappling, it stimulates me. Also, please keep on attempting to break the rules and get disqualified and most certainly headbutt the other guy at the end to put the icing on the cake". Forgive me for not being on the point of orgasm like some other people.

I couldn't give a hoot if anyone agrees with me, I follow my path. My point of view is as valid as anyone's and some just don't like that I would be mean to the self annointed, American SOG, who also happens to be the dirtiest man in boxing. He's a cheat.

My posts are not always negative, but they are when they talk about negative things. Ward is a negative boxer.

Rodriguez tried to break the rules FAR more than Ward tonight, Andre fought a pretty clean fight I thought. And your posts really are almost all negative, I mean come on. Why did you watch the fight if you have such a predisposed opinion, who cares what any fighter is like out of the ring. You'd rather watch James Toney than Andre Ward currently, that tells me you are basically clueless as a boxing fan. I like you as a person, but just don't get why you don't do something about your shit given the way you post around here.

I watched the fight and saw the same old, same old. It was the Bika fight against someone with none of Bika's skills. And get out of here with the comments about being clueless. Do something about 'my shit'? I've no idea what any of that means.

When it comes down to boxing, I am an aesthete. I enjoy particular styles and none of them involve cheating to get what one wants. James Toney is a purists dream as a boxer, Ward is quite definitely far more flawed. For the same reason Hopkins can never consider himself aesthetically pleasing. An aesthete is pure and bases the artistry around the rules. It means using the 12 rounds to show skills, not spoil and cheat. It is after all a fight. In a different style, Calzaghe and Paquiao are also great examples of quality boxing which I also enjoy a great deal. Fighters don't hug each other, watch the Marquez/Pac fights and count the hugs. Great fighters don't do it to excess.

I'm not going to give credit to the likes of Ruiz, Wlad and Ward, when they are horrible to watch. James Toney at 45 is still a far more HONEST fighter once that bell goes than Andre Ward and that is why I speak positively of James Toney and not of Ward. I love boxing and watch all the fights and know what I like. If it is ugly, then I will be there saying it is. If I am not being consistent then point it out, but this bout was largely negative and against someone who had a chin and little more.

[p4pking]

I just meant if I was as outwardly bitter as you, I probably wouldn't post here any more. It's obviously incredibly unhealthy, nobody respects your opinion as much as they would if you focused on things you aren't clueless about, I won't backtrack on that.

[IamInuit]

Currently watching Collins Benn one on BN. Amazed I'm still awake tonight.

Its only 9PM so I plan on taking in the Ponce fight.

[TitoFan]

Currently watching Collins Benn one on BN. Amazed I'm still awake tonight.

Its only 9PM so I plan on taking in the Ponce fight.

9 pm? You must live in Western Canada, I imagine.

[Kirkland Laing]

Currently watching Collins Benn one on BN. Amazed I'm still awake tonight.

Its only 9PM so I plan on taking in the Ponce fight.

Even if I could find a stream I'm off to bed soon. I've drunk enough to flatten an elephant. Been drinking over 10 hours now.

[IamInuit]

Currently watching Collins Benn one on BN. Amazed I'm still awake tonight.

Its only 9PM so I plan on taking in the Ponce fight.

9 pm? You must live in Western Canada, I imagine.

Indeed. Only thing west of me is Alaska. NW really.

[p4pking]

Hahah I'm loaded as well hence my anti Miles rant, and it's only 9pm for me as well Im on the same side of Canada as IamInuit only in a much more temperate region

[TitoFan]

Currently watching Collins Benn one on BN. Amazed I'm still awake tonight.

Its only 9PM so I plan on taking in the Ponce fight.

9 pm? You must live in Western Canada, I imagine.

Indeed. Only thing west of me is Alaska. NW really.

Cool place to live. I lived in Alaska as a kid.
Over here it's 1 am. Either I really like the boxing forum... or I just get so hyped watching fights it takes me a while to get sleepy.

[IamInuit]

Hahah I'm loaded as well hence my anti Miles rant, and it's only 9pm for me as well Im on the same side of Canada as IamInuit only in a much more temperate region

Its going to hit -30 tuesday. Took my 95 Corolla out of the cob webs. Got my battery pad heater, block heater and inline heater all into one cord.. Piece of cardboard in front of the rad and I'm set for another winter.