Who is the best and worst of britains 12 world champions?

[ross]

Boxrec have the worst points system in the world for ranking fighters too. Absolutely cluesless, its just based on the opinions of the editors.

Oh really?

"These ratings are not influenced by subjective views or opinions but are wholly dependent upon the bouts contained in the BoxRec database."

BoxRec Ratings Description - BoxRec

Use there system to work out fighters ratings. They dont add up most of the time.

So you think there is a secret agenda among the boxrec editors to make Fury a top P4P fighter and better than all the welter weights?

Or could it be that he had a very good win over a very good fighter?

[Silkeyjoe]

No Im just saying there point system is flawed and in some cases just plain wrong.

I personally wouldnt have him top 10 P4P as I dont think hes the best heavyweight which is a poor division but have no problem if people have him in there as he just beat Wlad. I also wouldnt have Canelo as number 1. How have they got Garcia behind Khan considering he has fought more, and against better opposition since beating Khan

[ross]

No Im just saying there point system is flawed and in some cases just plain wrong.

I personally wouldnt have him top 10 P4P as I dont think hes the best heavyweight which is a poor division but have no problem if people have him in there as he just beat Wlad. I also wouldnt have Canelo as number 1. How have they got Garcia behind Khan considering he has fought more, and against better opposition since beating Khan

You lot are just very stubborn. Iv seen people say that Haye and Povetkin are still great hopes.

They have very short memories because both did nothing against Wlad. The active one got battered by a cruiserweight and scraped a MD against him!

How can they be any better than a boxer who has exceeded what they have done?

Wilder?

Joshua? hes just squeeked past a british level fighter that was out pf boxing for 2 years Hes years away from being anything.

Its funny because before Tyson beat Wlad you all said and agreed and its pretty undeniable that Wlad was the best of the division, he wasnt slowing down, hes leagues above everyone else and there is no one out there that can touch him.

Not only that but none of you rated or rather wanted to rate Tyson, you hated him. He was a fat lazy bum with no power and was getting sparked early.

Your opinions got turned on their heads and you are still trying to come to terms with being so very very wrong and now very revisionist that the win means nothing and there ARE other heavyweights who were better than Wlad Its ridiculous!

[Fenster]

Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."

However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks.

And all below Fury!!!

Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.

((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 ))

[ross]

Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."

However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks.

And all below Fury!!!

Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.

((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 ))

Boxrec isnt mine

[Silkeyjoe]

No Im just saying there point system is flawed and in some cases just plain wrong.

I personally wouldnt have him top 10 P4P as I dont think hes the best heavyweight which is a poor division but have no problem if people have him in there as he just beat Wlad. I also wouldnt have Canelo as number 1. How have they got Garcia behind Khan considering he has fought more, and against better opposition since beating Khan

You lot are just very stubborn. Iv seen people say that Haye and Povetkin are still great hopes.

They have very short memories because both did nothing against Wlad. The active one got battered by a cruiserweight and scraped a MD against him!

How can they be any better than a boxer who has exceeded what they have done?

Wilder?

Joshua? hes just squeeked past a british level fighter that was out pf boxing for 2 years Hes years away from being anything.

Its funny because before Tyson beat Wlad you all said and agreed and its pretty undeniable that Wlad was the best of the division, he wasnt slowing down, hes leagues above everyone else and there is no one out there that can touch him.

Not only that but none of you rated or rather wanted to rate Tyson, you hated him. He was a fat lazy bum with no power and was getting sparked early.

Your opinions got turned on their heads and you are still trying to come to terms with being so very very wrong and now very revisionist that the win means nothing and there ARE other heavyweights who were better than Wlad Its ridiculous!

If noone rated Fury why did someone back him to win a world title in 2015?

I didnt think he'd beat Wlad but I though he had a good chance. Sure how could someone who got a gift against Big John McDermott ever be considered the best heavyweight. I mean Joshua just squeaked past a British level fighter but at least the result wasnt debatable.

Fury has beaten one good heavyweight and whether he just caught Wlad on a bad day is yet to be seen. As I said I can see plenty of heavies beating him and am pretty certain hes not a massive fav over any of boxrecs top 5 heavies.

[Silkeyjoe]

In other words hes not like Floyd, Ward or Rigo where I cant see anyone in their weight classes beating them if that makes sense.

[ross]

Thats the problem you see what you want to see. You dont want to see how good Fury is

[Silkeyjoe]

Thats the problem you see what you want to see. You dont want to see how good Fury is

Id be 100% sure its you who sees what you want to see

[ross]

Thats the problem you see what you want to see. You dont want to see how good Fury is

Id be 100% sure its you who sees what you want to see

Lets see shall we.

I said Tyson was very good and much better than most on here were rating him and I also said quite famously on here for a very long time he would beat Wlad and is the best in the division.

Surprise surprise it happened as I said it would so yes your right I do see things as they are

[Fenster]

Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."

However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks.

And all below Fury!!!

Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.

((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 ))

Boxrec isnt mine

Those are the rankings you chose to make a point, which has spectacularly backfired against you. The rankings you chose simply proved me correct. If you now wish to distance yourself from them. Fine.

[ross]

Boxrec don't have Fury top either. Which must mean they're "biased no nothings like this forum and all the other publications."

However, if you'd like to use Boxrec's P4P, it proves my point about how shit the heavyweight division is compared with welterweight. Boxrec have four welterweights in the top 10. Thanks.

And all below Fury!!!

Fury can be no.1 - it still backs up my point that the welterweight division is much stronger than heavyweight. Strength in depth. Your silly rankings prove it.

((Chocolatito isn't in the top 17 ))

Boxrec isnt mine

Those are the rankings you chose to make a point, which has spectacularly backfired against you. The rankings you chose simply proved me correct. If you now wish to distance yourself from them. Fine.

You are very wrong if you think they have backfired let alone spectacularly.

This indipendent rankng system with no financial interest have Tyson Fury as 3rd best pound for pound fighter in the world and higher than Kell Brook.

How does that prove my point of Tyson being better than Kell Brook wrong you muppet!

The hate is addling your little mind

[Fenster]

So now you're back to claiming the rankings as accurate?

Therefore they prove me correct that the welterweight division is stronger than heavyweight. You can't deny that otherwise Fury's ranking is utterly meaningless. Fact.

[ross]

So now you're back to claiming the rankings as accurate?

Therefore they prove me correct that the welterweight division is stronger than heavyweight. You can't deny that otherwise Fury's ranking is utterly meaningless. Fact.

Ok the Welterweight division is more competative where no one is really much better than the rest I agree with you.

My whole point of starting posting in this pointless thread is to point out the blatantly obvious that Tyson is better than Brook as is backed up by indipendant rankings and makes a mockery of all your bitter biased opinions.

[Silkeyjoe]

So now you're back to claiming the rankings as accurate?

Therefore they prove me correct that the welterweight division is stronger than heavyweight. You can't deny that otherwise Fury's ranking is utterly meaningless. Fact.

Ok the Welterweight division is more competative where no one is really much better than the rest I agree with you.

My whole point of starting posting in this pointless thread is to point out the blatantly obvious that Tyson is better than Brook as is backed up by indipendant rankings and makes a mockery of all your bitter biased opinions.

Before the Wlad fight Fury was higher in the rankings? Was Wlad better then Fury all the way until he lost to him? The boxrec rankings mean fuck all. Sure they dont have Gonzalez or Inoue in their top 20