Joe Calzaghe

[Fenster]

eubank was shot and had if i remember right 10 days notice to fight calzaghe and was weight drained why did he fight veit twice when he stopped him in 1st round 1st time

Eubank was past it but it was also Calzaghe's first big TEST. He passed the test with flying colours, no? And Eubank went on to be involved in two tremendous fights with Carl Thompson at Cruiser.

Veit was Calzaghe's mandatory. Veits team won the purse bids to stage the fight in Germany. Calzaghe got paid £750,000 (his biggest payday) to fight someone he previously KO'd in one round. Don't take a genius to work that one out.

[ICB]

eubank was shot and had if i remember right 10 days notice to fight calzaghe and was weight drained why did he fight veit twice when he stopped him in 1st round 1st time

Eubank was past it but it was also Calzaghe's first big TEST. He passed the test with flying colours, no? And Eubank when on to be involved in two tremendous fights with Carl Thompson at Cruiser.

Veit was Calzaghe's mandatory. Veits team won the purse bids to stage the fight in Germany. Calzaghe got paid £750,000 (his biggest payday) to fight someone he previously KO'd in one round. Don't take a genius to work that one out.

well i didnt know how much he got payed but surely there were other big fights other than rematching a guy you blew away in 1 calzaghe was good in eubank fight i never said he wasnt but eubank only had very short time to get himself in shape and was weight drained and was shot you gotta take that into account aswell

[Fenster]

Give it a few months and I might agree with you, Joe is holding on to top spot by the skin of his teeth. That said Beyer was cooked and Lucas was always average. Fair play to him for going over to Oz and beating Mundine handily though, Mundine is apparently really good now?

You said it best before when explaining FW...one for you three for me.

After Lacy a gimme against Bika OR sacrificial lamb boy would of been OK, not funking back to back.

[Tysonbruno]

Forget the Eubank win he had to lose 11lbs in a week he was meant to be fighting at lightheavy on undercard and ok he beat Eubank but he's had 19 fights since then and has'nt done a deal to make us think god he's great

[Fenster]

eubank was shot and had if i remember right 10 days notice to fight calzaghe and was weight drained why did he fight veit twice when he stopped him in 1st round 1st time

Eubank was past it but it was also Calzaghe's first big TEST. He passed the test with flying colours, no? And Eubank when on to be involved in two tremendous fights with Carl Thompson at Cruiser.

Veit was Calzaghe's mandatory. Veits team won the purse bids to stage the fight in Germany. Calzaghe got paid £750,000 (his biggest payday) to fight someone he previously KO'd in one round. Don't take a genius to work that one out.

well i didnt know how much he got payed but surely there were other big fights other than rematching a guy you blew away in 1 calzaghe was good in eubank fight i never said he wasnt but eubank only had very short time to get himself in shape and was weight drained and was shot you gotta take that into account aswell

Yep there sure was other big fights

Veit's team stopped Calzaghe's scheduled fight with Brian Magee

[ICB]

Forget the Eubank win he had to lose 11lbs in a week he was meant to be fighting at lightheavy on undercard and ok he beat Eubank but he's had 19 fights since then and has'nt done a deal to make us think god he's great

agreed i mean i like calzaghe but these people are making excuses for him and people honestly trying to say that being champion for what is it 9 years and making 19 defences that he has had only one big fight because all fighters have ducked him and priced them selfs out i dont buy that for second looks like fw is protecting calzaghe too much and it doesnt look like calzaghe is too eager to get big fights either

[Tysonbruno]

Forget the Eubank win he had to lose 11lbs in a week he was meant to be fighting at lightheavy on undercard and ok he beat Eubank but he's had 19 fights since then and has'nt done a deal to make us think god he's great

agreed i mean i like calzaghe but these people are making excuses for him and people honestly trying to say that being champion for what is it 9 years and making 19 defences that he hasnt had one big fight because all fighters have ducked him and priced them selfs out i dont buy that for second looks like fw is protecting calzaghe too much and it doesnt look like calzaghe is too eager to get big fights either

CC

[ICB]

Forget the Eubank win he had to lose 11lbs in a week he was meant to be fighting at lightheavy on undercard and ok he beat Eubank but he's had 19 fights since then and has'nt done a deal to make us think god he's great

agreed i mean i like calzaghe but these people are making excuses for him and people honestly trying to say that being champion for what is it 9 years and making 19 defences that he hasnt had one big fight because all fighters have ducked him and priced them selfs out i dont buy that for second looks like fw is protecting calzaghe too much and it doesnt look like calzaghe is too eager to get big fights either

CC

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Am i the only one that thinks Bernard & Calzaghe both wanted nothing to do with each other

Don't even get me started on Roy I mean i like Roy but he knows exacly how to price himslef out of a fight.
Even in 2007

No wonder Bernard ended up taking paycheques of smaller men. :P

[Tysonbruno]

One of the fights he could of had but did'nt that does my head in most is the Clinton Woods fight when he was talking about moving up to lightheavy he was gunna fight Woods before he was champ and pulled out then defended his WBO title.Woods then won the IBF title Joe says he wants the winner of Johnson v Woods Woods wins and Joe shuts up about the fight now Warren and Hobson said the fight could be made.But it never happend now loads of rival promoters and tv networks can work together so the fact they don't get on can't be the excuse it would have been a good fight for british boxing and i would fancy Woods to win why do we keep getting robbed

[Swashbuckling Gordy]

Kessler doing more than Calzaghe ?

How many fights has Kessler had since winning the world title ?

Answer 4 fights in 3 years . How on earth is that doing more than Calzaghe .

Andrade has fought NOT 1 NOT 1 NOT 1 NOT 1 EVEN FRINGE CONTENDER.

10 ,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.........AHH THATS BETTER .

Bika and MM to say the least were and are Supermiddles and both can hit hard .

As for Hopkins blowing away anyone .....bahahahahaha thats the funniest thing i've ever heard .

He Bottled the fight with Calzaghe , FW went on the record and said as much ! For Hopkins to fight anyone remotely decent they have to be coming up in weight having preiously fought at Welter . Anytime he goes in with a decent fuly blown Middle .....

Hopkins the luckiest oppurtunist ever .

King Roy would have beat Calzaghe in his prime but who has ever blown away Joe C?

Some of you should try backing words up with fact !!

Joe Calzaghe world champ 20 defences at the same weight .

That takes some doing .

Ike Quartey would beat Joe Calzaghe .............

[ICB]

Kessler doing more than Calzaghe ?

How many fights has Kessler had since winning the world title ?

Answer 4 fights in 3 years . How on earth is that doing more than Calzaghe .

Andrade has fought NOT 1 NOT 1 NOT 1 NOT 1 EVEN FRINGE CONTENDER.

10 ,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.........AHH THATS BETTER .

Bika and MM to say the least were and are Supermiddles and both can hit hard .

As for Hopkins blowing away anyone .....bahahahahaha thats the funniest thing i've ever heard .

He Bottled the fight with Calzaghe , FW went on the record and said as much ! For Hopkins to fight anyone remotely decent they have to be coming up in weight having preiously fought at Welter . Anytime he goes in with a decent fuly blown Middle .....

Hopkins the luckiest oppurtunist ever .

King Roy would have beat Calzaghe in his prime but who has ever blown away Joe C?

Some of you should try backing words up with fact !!

Joe Calzaghe world champ 20 defences at the same weight .
That takes some doing .

Ike Quartey would beat Joe Calzaghe .............

i meant in opponents they faced that hopkins opponents are better ....

no one has blown calzaghe away but thats due to him not facing any top fighters

bika has 22 wins and 14 kos he is average puncher at best his 14 kos have come against average opponents or bums mm has decent ko record 23 wins 17 kos but look at opponents records he has faced there all bums most with losing records or guys with just over average records

[BIG H]

Can I just ask what risks Bernard Hopkins or Roy Jones Jnr took during their primes?

I reckon I can name a lot more people that both of them should have fought and didn't that anybody can name that Calzaghe should've fought and didn't

ill do list for you mate

roy jones

james toney
bernard hopkins
clinton woods
thulani malinga who had beaten benn and lost sd to chris eubank
montel griffin
virgil hill
reggie johnson lost close decision to james toney also was first man to floor toney

all of these fights were risks

bernard hopkins

howard eastman
felix trinidad 40-0 at that time
oscar dela hoya

all risky fights

hopkins may of not had as many risky fights but eastman trinidad and oscar are twice as good as calzaghe opponents shame calzaghe wernt born few years later he would of been in era of benn eubank collins

but i will say this calzaghe was bit unlucky aswell to be fair i mean he offered hopkins fight and he priced himself out and then he was going to fight steve collins and he pulled out due to injury

Mate I am work at the moment - but you will get my full response to this later - coz James Toney (for RJJ) is the only genuine risk you have given for either fighter imo - for various reasons!

[Swashbuckling Gordy]

Kessler doing more than Calzaghe ?

How many fights has Kessler had since winning the world title ?

Answer 4 fights in 3 years . How on earth is that doing more than Calzaghe .

Andrade has fought NOT 1 NOT 1 NOT 1 NOT 1 EVEN FRINGE CONTENDER.

10 ,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1.........AHH THATS BETTER .

Bika and MM to say the least were and are Supermiddles and both can hit hard .

As for Hopkins blowing away anyone .....bahahahahaha thats the funniest thing i've ever heard .

He Bottled the fight with Calzaghe , FW went on the record and said as much ! For Hopkins to fight anyone remotely decent they have to be coming up in weight having preiously fought at Welter . Anytime he goes in with a decent fuly blown Middle .....

Hopkins the luckiest oppurtunist ever .

King Roy would have beat Calzaghe in his prime but who has ever blown away Joe C?

Some of you should try backing words up with fact !!

Joe Calzaghe world champ 20 defences at the same weight .
That takes some doing .

Ike Quartey would beat Joe Calzaghe .............

i meant in opponents they faced that hopkins opponents are better ....

no one has blown calzaghe away but thats due to him not facing any top fighters

bika has 22 wins and 14 kos he is average puncher at best his 14 kos have come against average opponents or bums mm has decent ko record 23 wins 17 kos but look at opponents records he has faced there all bums most with losing records or guys with just over average records

My point was that Joe C with a few exceptions has fought big men with power .

MM is a big hitter won the European Championship in France against world ranked Jackson Chanet .

All i'm trying to emphasise is what the bare facts tell me .

Hopkins fought mainly guys moving up in weight who he had massive physical advantages over .

I'm the 1st to admit Joe has fought plenty of Carthorses but he more often than not blew them away !

Hopkins made hard work of alot pretty average fighters .

Mittchell
Brewer
Shieka
LACY
Ried
Eubank
Woodall

these fighters were all former champions ( Shieka exception ). All with the possible exception of Woodall i'd call punchers Joe did numbers ( Ried exception ) on all these guys .

I have never ever been impressed with Hopkins he didnt want anything to do with Joe Calzaghe that is cold hard fact.

Joe answered all he needed to answer with the display over Lacy .

[Tysonbruno]

I thought Robin Reid beat him and so did some sports writers and he would'nt fight him again