Its Official!!! Calzaghe Vs Kessler NOV 3!!

[Violent Demise]

Steve Collins called him out-he melted
Benn-he melted
Calzaghe-he melted
Eubank-not sure if im honest

Collins retired not long after he made a name for himself

Benn ?? well i don't know about that

Calzaghe ?? are you kidding me Jones moved up to Lightheavyweight in 1997 and Calzaghe hadn't even won title off faded Eubank then why would he bother ??

Eubank wouldn't ever go to USA

mate waren offered Roy over 5mill numerous times to figth calzaghe after calzaghe had beaten eubank and roy was considerd to be p4p 1/2 in the world lol...

And was Joe willing to come to USA ?? or move up to Lightheavyweight ?? i highly doubt it.

Roy jones was the one who said he would come down to SMW for it... knowing he would be mroe effective at smw...

Yes I remember. Jones did offer to move back to 168 for a fight with Calzaghe. And Joe said he would come to the US. The fight talk ended when Calzaghe demanded equal pay. It's seems Calzaghe's groupies always leave that little part out.

[smashup]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

Steve Collins even got on the mic after a fight IN THE RING and called him out!!
Maybe i missed it but in my book that's blantantly ducking your opponent.
I'll state AGAIN what the deal is with Jones...
He and G-man were best mates and after Geralds tragic Benn fight it put the fear of god in him and he even publicly stated "i will only extend myself if absolutely neccesary"-Roy Jones.
Simply put he wanted to make the cash and not have a war and run the risk of ending up like his best mate.
Please don't argue this back anyone because this is fact from Jones own mouth
Ice Cold mate you can't expect me to believe you were aware of Boxing promotions etc at age 11.
NO ONE on this entire site saw anything other than two men fighting when they tuned in at that age.

[ICB]

Mate i think you'd have been about 11 or 12 when this happened
Anyway F*ck Jones let's get back on track

So what ?? i still followed boxing i knew about it at 11 and 12 and it doesn't exclude me just because i was young i still knew what was going on in boxing world but i agree lets get back on track Kessler by decision when Calzaghe breaks his hands.

Smash what the F*** you sticking up yer beak fella?

ICE knew Naz was a gonna come a cropper at 6, aint that right mate?


Im just F****** about with you mate, no need to go nuclear or owt

I said i didn't like Naz's style and when i watched boxing more and more then i knew Naz would get exposed he did get exposed against Kelley but Barrera finished the job unlike Kelley.

[Preme]

OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.


Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.

Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.

I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.


Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.

So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.

The fight is in Wales. If Kessler dominates Calzaghe but for some reason does not get the decision. I will give Calzaghe no credit what's so ever.

What if we turn that statement on it's head..would you give Kessler any credit?
Joe was willing to travel to Denmark which is fact and financially it makes no sense for either to fight their so he can't be blamed really can he?

Oh I think there's more of a chance of Calzaghe getting a shady deal than Kessler. But if so I will give Kessler no credit as well.

and if calzaghe wins clearly, then what?

you gunna give him respect, or just talk about how he 'ducked' johnson or his a hometown fighter?

Violent D does not shy away from giving a fighter his due if it's earned. Question is can you Preme (the one with the Calzaghe poster on his bed room wall) admit your fighter is overrated if he was to easily get blown out?

Sorry im not a kid with posters on his walls or gets sent to juvi like some postes on here

you already asked me this, and i answerd you... Plain and simple yes... but i know it wont happen

Any fighter who is said to be world class and gets 'blow out' would be overrated...

[ICB]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

Steve Collins even got on the mic after a fight IN THE RING and called him out!!
Maybe i missed it but in my book that's blantantly ducking your opponent.
I'll state AGAIN what the deal is with Jones...
He and G-man were best mates and after Geralds tragic Benn fight it put the fear of god in him and he even publicly stated "i will only extend myself if absolutely neccesary"-Roy Jones.
Simply put he wanted to make the cash and not have a war and run the risk of ending up like his best mate.
Please don't argue this back anyone because this is fact from Jones own mouth
Ice Cold mate you can't expect me to believe you were aware of Boxing promotions etc at age 11.
NO ONE on this entire site saw anything other than two men fighting when they tuned in at that age.

Im sorry but i find it hard to believe that he would duck Collins who was tailor made for Jones.

[Preme]

Steve Collins called him out-he melted
Benn-he melted
Calzaghe-he melted
Eubank-not sure if im honest

Collins retired not long after he made a name for himself

Benn ?? well i don't know about that

Calzaghe ?? are you kidding me Jones moved up to Lightheavyweight in 1997 and Calzaghe hadn't even won title off faded Eubank then why would he bother ??

Eubank wouldn't ever go to USA

mate waren offered Roy over 5mill numerous times to figth calzaghe after calzaghe had beaten eubank and roy was considerd to be p4p 1/2 in the world lol...

And was Joe willing to come to USA ?? or move up to Lightheavyweight ?? i highly doubt it.

Roy jones was the one who said he would come down to SMW for it... knowing he would be mroe effective at smw...

Yes I remember. Jones did offer to move back to 168 for a fight with Calzaghe. And Joe said he would come to the US. The fight talk ended when Calzaghe demanded equal pay. It's seems Calzaghe's groupies always leave that little part out.

you always post stuff liek this but never once been able to give us a link to some real source... u said this about hopkins to, it gets borring mate...

[ICB]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.

[Preme]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.

don't think he ever ducked Eubank,chris made it clear he didn't wanna fight him, he would have only fought him for aninsane amount of money, money RJJ wudnt of even asked for...

[Mar]

Oh man i can't wait....i'll be rooting for both !!

[ICB]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.

don't think he ever ducked Eubank,chris made it clear he didn't wanna fight him, he would have only fought him for aninsane amount of money, money RJJ wudnt of even asked for...

Eubank made it clear he would never beat Jones plus Eubank never even fought in USA.

[Preme]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.

don't think he ever ducked Eubank,chris made it clear he didn't wanna fight him, he would have only fought him for aninsane amount of money, money RJJ wudnt of even asked for...

Well Smashup seems to think so even though Eubank made it clear he would never beat Jones plus Eubank never even fought in USA.

smahs said he wasnt sure about eubank the others are true

[Violent Demise]

OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.


Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.

Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.

I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.


Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.

So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.

The fight is in Wales. If Kessler dominates Calzaghe but for some reason does not get the decision. I will give Calzaghe no credit what's so ever.

What if we turn that statement on it's head..would you give Kessler any credit?
Joe was willing to travel to Denmark which is fact and financially it makes no sense for either to fight their so he can't be blamed really can he?

Oh I think there's more of a chance of Calzaghe getting a shady deal than Kessler. But if so I will give Kessler no credit as well.

and if calzaghe wins clearly, then what?

you gunna give him respect, or just talk about how he 'ducked' johnson or his a hometown fighter?

Violent D does not shy away from giving a fighter his due if it's earned. Question is can you Preme (the one with the Calzaghe poster on his bed room wall) admit your fighter is overrated if he was to easily get blown out?

Sorry im not a kid with posters on his walls or gets sent to juvi like some postes on here

you already asked me this, and i answerd you... Plain and simple yes... but i know it wont happen

Any fighter who is said to be world class and gets 'blow out' would be overrated...

I ain't been to juvi in 13 years.

[ICB]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.

don't think he ever ducked Eubank,chris made it clear he didn't wanna fight him, he would have only fought him for aninsane amount of money, money RJJ wudnt of even asked for...

Well Smashup seems to think so even though Eubank made it clear he would never beat Jones plus Eubank never even fought in USA.

smahs said he wasnt sure about eubank the others are true

Thats why i just edited my post

[Preme]

OK,
Reading the *Official* thread and some comments being made about the aftermaths of the fight.


Let's get one thing straight here....
Whoevers the dumb! F*** to come on here and start S***! and ride of Kess is just that a fwocken idiot.

Heres what I'm getting to.....
If Joe beats Kess regardless of how he does it, Joe will have earned the respect he has been claiming.
Whoever thinks otherwise is just a wanker and is here to start S***.
Not only that but if Joe embaresses Kess whoa!! he will def. catapult in all-time rankings and def. as one of the best fighters of our times.

I mean these are 2 fighters in their primes, undefeated, established Champs with decent records some questionable opponents. Some people say Kess has fought the more prominent names some people say Joes the one with the better quality of opposition. Whatever the case maybe they are fighting eachother and all that goes out the window come that night.
But you can't discredit their undefeated records either cause they also make for interesting talk. This is like Lloyd vs. Donald, 'Finito' vs. Alvarez as far as records or like Gonzalez vs. Carbajal, Naz vs. MAB, ODLH vs. SSM as far as fighters at their best at the time of the fight.


Also the same should apply for Kess if he defeats Joe. No excuses if Joe is the man at SMW and is defeated by Kess then Kess becomes the man at SMW.

So please Kess fans be gracious in victory and defeat don't come here just talking S***! Some of you guys give him a bad name with some of the stuff you guys post. I know those memmbers are no longer here
but to those who may come give credit to whoever wins. I know I will.

The fight is in Wales. If Kessler dominates Calzaghe but for some reason does not get the decision. I will give Calzaghe no credit what's so ever.

What if we turn that statement on it's head..would you give Kessler any credit?
Joe was willing to travel to Denmark which is fact and financially it makes no sense for either to fight their so he can't be blamed really can he?

Oh I think there's more of a chance of Calzaghe getting a shady deal than Kessler. But if so I will give Kessler no credit as well.

and if calzaghe wins clearly, then what?

you gunna give him respect, or just talk about how he 'ducked' johnson or his a hometown fighter?

Violent D does not shy away from giving a fighter his due if it's earned. Question is can you Preme (the one with the Calzaghe poster on his bed room wall) admit your fighter is overrated if he was to easily get blown out?

Sorry im not a kid with posters on his walls or gets sent to juvi like some postes on here

you already asked me this, and i answerd you... Plain and simple yes... but i know it wont happen

Any fighter who is said to be world class and gets 'blow out' would be overrated...

I ain't been to juvi in 13 years.

whata guy

[CutMeMick]

to say RJJ ducked no one is stupid, it is well know he ducked a couple of fighters

which have been named in previous posts

What was the deal ?? maybe you misread my posts i said i didn't know about Benn after Gerald incident maybe Jones did get cold feet but Jones did fight quality opposition and until i see proof that Jones ducked Collins Benn Eubank honestly give me a break Eubank would never fight in USA and Calzaghe wasn't even a name in USA when Jones was top dog.

Calzaghe isn't a name now.
Still when a fight has to be made and it's clear and it isn't then questions will arise....
Monzon wasn't a name here in the States and he came in and beat Benvenutti.
Pac wasn't a name here and he came in and destroyed Ledwaba.
The point is the fights were there for RJJ to make he was the man here and HE should have made the fights happen for him for his legacy.