unpopular opinions that you have.

[antimoron]

1- Undefeated fighters with talent and presumed great are untested and ducking the real deal. (as the case of Guzman, PBF, Calzaghe)
2- Ring Mag ratings are tainted since it was acquired by Goldie Company

[Spicoli]

One thing I have never liked is the perception and/or opinion that Asian fighters are not as great as some historians make them out be. In my view, they have been terribly neglected by the "so-called experts" who vote people into the Hall of Fame. I have a hunch this might be corrected in 2009, but time will tell. Ah, now I feel better for getting that off my chest. Thanks for the thread that allowed me to do that.

Great point.Out of sight,out of mind.Thank god for downloads though

[CGM]

1) Both De La Hoya and Mosley conveniently avoided Kostya Tszyu!
Those fights should have happened and i'm not buying some of the lame excuses i always get for it not happening.

2) Lennox Lewis was a lumbering Oaf! The Brits hate me saying this but in reality he would have been humiliated by Ali, Foreman and Smokin' Joe would have landed that famous left hook by round 2 or 3 on that questionable chin of Lewis. He was also lazy (Rahman) and over confident (Holyfield 2) He was clearly robbed in the first fight but i think he lost the 2nd one.

Canadians hate you too, but probably not as much as the Brits.

[THE THIRD MAN]

1) Both De La Hoya and Mosley conveniently avoided Kostya Tszyu!
Those fights should have happened and i'm not buying some of the lame excuses i always get for it not happening.

2) Lennox Lewis was a lumbering Oaf! The Brits hate me saying this but in reality he would have been humiliated by Ali, Foreman and Smokin' Joe would have landed that famous left hook by round 2 or 3 on that questionable chin of Lewis. He was also lazy (Rahman) and over confident (Holyfield 2) He was clearly robbed in the first fight but i think he lost the 2nd one.

Canadians hate you too, but probably not as much as the Brits.

Yes, i expect they both do. I just find Lewis kind of....boring!
I like the Fatman though and i like Canadians!

[CGM]

1) Both De La Hoya and Mosley conveniently avoided Kostya Tszyu!
Those fights should have happened and i'm not buying some of the lame excuses i always get for it not happening.

2) Lennox Lewis was a lumbering Oaf! The Brits hate me saying this but in reality he would have been humiliated by Ali, Foreman and Smokin' Joe would have landed that famous left hook by round 2 or 3 on that questionable chin of Lewis. He was also lazy (Rahman) and over confident (Holyfield 2) He was clearly robbed in the first fight but i think he lost the 2nd one.

Canadians hate you too, but probably not as much as the Brits.

Yes, i expect they both do. I just find Lewis kind of....boring!
I like the Fatman though and i like Canadians!

And if I wanted to move somewhere far away, Australia would be up near the top of my list. As for Lewis, yeah I get your drift he could be pretty dry at times, but when he decided to unload, watch out. One two lights out! p.s. who is the fatman

[THE THIRD MAN]

Canadians hate you too, but probably not as much as the Brits.

Yes, i expect they both do. I just find Lewis kind of....boring!
I like the Fatman though and i like Canadians!

And if I wanted to move somewhere far away, Australia would be up near the top of my list. As for Lewis, yeah I get your drift he could be pretty dry at times, but when he decided to unload, watch out. One two lights out! p.s. who is the fatman

Hatton...i like him and i love the Fat suit!

[bambamdaddio]

That Hatton is a different animal at 140 whoever he fights...& that Joe Calzaghe really is something special....

[Boom Boom]

B-Hop is a top 10 fighter of all time.

Willie Pep is The Greatest fighter of all time.

John Ruiz is a good fighter.

[Phil]

B-Hop is a top 10 fighter of all time.

Willie Pep is The Greatest fighter of all time.

John Ruiz is a good fighter.

Really?

[hfahrenheit]

-Had Cus D'Amato not died, Tyson would have been the best ever. That was the beginning of the end.

-I think Bernard Hopkins fought a lot like John Ruiz in the Calzaghe fight and disgraced himself.

-I think Kelly Pavlik is overrated because he's white; I think Joe Calzaghe is underrated in America because he's white. Ricky Hatton too.

-I think rap/hip hop is retarded, across the board. I think it becomes exponentially more retarded when Europeans and Asians do it and take themselves seriously.

-I don't think Ali was the greatest, time periods (among other things) prohibit actual, fair comparisons. Having said that, I don't think he was better than Foreman or Frazier- those fights being too circumstantial. He had the prettiest boxing form and was the best entertainer. I also think it's ironic that he spend so much time being a loudmouth and now cannot speak.

[GeorgeForeman8]

in this thread i want people to state unpopular opinions they have about boxing without the fear of being sad click.


mine would be that if PBF was still at 130 he would beat barrera morales JMM and PAC. most people say i'm crazy but thats just the way i feel.

You know good well you can't say a black or white fighter could beat a mexican, puerto rican or asian fighter. Are you mad? Do you want to get banned? Lol of course Floyd Mayweather would beat JMM or Pac and he could do it on the same night. Anybody who thinks different is a prideless american or just a idiot.

Mine would beat that Rocky Marciano is one of the most unskilled and overrated boxers in boxing history. A man who best wins came against guys pushing 40, 2 were blown up middleweights in Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore. The reality is Charles beat Marciano in their first fight. So did Ted Lowry and Roland LaStarza and neither of them were heavyweights either.

Yet Marciano would knock out Foreman, Bowe, Holyfield, Tyson, Frazier, Ali all in the same night. He could barely beat guys his own size when there past their primes but he could beat people who out weighed him by at least 25 or 30 pounds? Amusing don't you think? Marciano's so called punching power was not nearly what you people claim it to be. As i said in another post Archie Moore was a middleweight who stayed at that weight class for at least 10 years. As a middleweight he was knocked down numerous times and knocked out a few times as well and i believe he was knocked out in 1 rounds before by a nobody of a fighter, yet it took Marciano 9 rounds of punching behind he head to do so?

You can't name one fighter Marciano fought who you would consider a hall of famer who was still in their prime that Marciano beat. Hell Jersey Joe Walcott, Ezzard Charles and Archie Moore careers are built up just to make it seem like Marciano fought somebody. Even the so called Great Joe Louis is overrated. Who did he fight? Just names built up to make him seem great which in turn made Maricano seem like he fought somebody. You can't name one 200 plus pound heavyweight Joe Louis fought could you.


That was unpopular to say but 100 percent the truth.

[Mr140]

You know Foreman why dont you talk about your fighters faults as well. Since i seen you talk so much shit about other fighters that i find some what funney because alot of it is opinion you try to pass on as fact. Foreman was out beaten by a old Ali by punching him self out which pretty dumb thing to do. then goes on to lose by total getting outboxed by young and looking like terrible because of his winging shots. He is lucky he landed that shot on Moorer because he lost every singal round of that fight but credit to him for taking the shots and getting it done. You say that Larry Holmes ducked him that funney all he talks about is fighting him i think Foreman did not want to fight the guy because he be outboxed.

[Gandalf]

Oscar DLH has, in my opinion, had extensive liposuction on his thighs and regularly gets botox injected into his head. And he kisses Bernard Hopkins on the lips. I imagine these are unpopular opinions that I have.

[Julius Rain]

One thing I have never liked is the perception and/or opinion that Asian fighters are not as great as some historians make them out be. In my view, they have been terribly neglected by the "so-called experts" who vote people into the Hall of Fame. I have a hunch this might be corrected in 2009, but time will tell. Ah, now I feel better for getting that off my chest. Thanks for the thread that allowed me to do that.

good post but this is actually not an unpopular opinion if you talk to guys here who really know boxers from asia they too will tell you this same opinion.

[Julius Rain]

Oscar DLH has, in my opinion, had extensive liposuction on his thighs and regularly gets botox injected into his head. And he kisses Bernard Hopkins on the lips. I imagine these are unpopular opinions that I have.

sounds more like a fantasy.