Who will be remembered as the greater fighter: Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather?

[Freedom]

I think Bernard Hopkins had a greater career than Floyd Mayweather.

He fought the best, while Floyd avoided many of the better boxers in and around his division.

Floyd avoided Williams, Margarito, prime Mosley, Morales, prime De La Hoya, Casamayor, Tszyu, Forrest and of course Pacquiao.

I remember Hopkins once offered to fight a heavyweight Oleg Maskaev when Oleg had the WBC title.

[IamInuit]

Legacy wise Hopkins and its not really that close. If you measure the success of a fighter based on their bank account, ppv numbers or trinket collection then Floyd.

[ruthless rocco]

Greater fighter? Floyd
Greater career? Floyd

Was this a joke thread?

[Beanflicker]

Was this a joke thread?

Sometimes I have to wonder if these guys really believe the shit they say. It's mind boggling.

[C.J.Rock]

Mayweather isn't fit to carry Hopkins jockstrap

[IamInuit]

Was this a joke thread?

Sometimes I have to wonder if these guys really believe the shit they say. It's mind boggling.

To even debate this would be mind boggling its so ridiculous. One man has been concerned with legacy his entire career. The other money.

[ruthless rocco]

In what ways is Bernard Better than Floyd?

[Freedom]

In what ways is Bernard Better than Floyd?

He fought everybody, most of them in their prime.

Floyd avoided many, or waited until they faded (Mosley was 40 when Floyd fought his, De La Hoya was past his best). Floyd fought a lot of clubfighters/fringe contenders like Ortiz, Mitchell, and Maidana.

[SugarBoxing]

None

Floyd might be remembered as a good businessman

Hop might be remembered as an old fart fighter

[powerpuncher]

In what ways is Bernard Better than Floyd?

He fought everybody, most of them in their prime.

Floyd avoided many, or waited until they faded (Mosley was 40 when Floyd fought his, De La Hoya was past his best). Floyd fought a lot of clubfighters/fringe contenders like Ortiz, Mitchell, and Maidana.

actually floyd probably fought tougher opposition. bhop did clean out the MW division but most of the people he fought werent really that good. the fight that really put him over was against tito who was a welter. same with de la hoya. i would say that floyds best wins are better than hopkins best wins.

but its a joke of a thread anyways. floyd is a top 20 p4p of all time. bernard basically sealed his legacy because of his age. floyd sealed his with his greatness.

[Fenster]

Floyd fans - it's not even debatable. Fact.

Hop fans - it's not even debatable. Fact.

lol. Fact.

[ykdadamaja]

I think Bernard Hopkins had a greater career than Floyd Mayweather.

He fought the best, while Floyd avoided many of the better boxers in and around his division.

Floyd avoided Williams, Margarito, prime Mosley, Morales, prime De La Hoya, Casamayor, Tszyu, Forrest and of course Pacquiao.

I remember Hopkins once offered to fight a heavyweight Oleg Maskaev when Oleg had the WBC title.

We have to base that on several variables. To me, we have to base that on:
1. Technical Skills
2.Competition Faced
3. KO and Knock Down ration
4. Odds of either fighter losing and then winning against the odds
and...
5. Who made more noise by calling out the top guys.

We should start the discussion from there, or add any other variables to the mix.

[ElTerribleMorales]

if Floyd is still beating up grown men who can be his kids on a championship level in 10 years then he can make a case for how good he is, until then

Hopkins - Former Undisputed Middleweight champion with 20 defenses (not 22 cause he was robbed in both fights against Taylor), 3 time Light Heavyweight champ (two time lineal), oldest champion in any weight class, oldest world champion to successfully defend title, and oldest champion to unify world titles, wins over the likes of John David Jackson, Glen Johnson, Simon Brown, Robert Allen, Antwun Echols, Felix Trinidad, Joppy, De La Hoya, Eastman, Taylor (he was robbed in both fights), Tarver, Winky Wright, Calzaghe (again, I felt he won it), Pavlik, Pascal (should have a W on both fights), Cloud, and Shumenov

c'mon now people

[Beanflicker]

If you're one of the many who go on about Floyd ducking and dodging everyone, and waiting until very one was old to fight them, you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about and you're not worth talking to about it.

I would love to hear who exactly people think Hopkins beat that puts him so highly above Floyd. I remember a time when Hopkins was picked apart for his opponents because the consensus was that his best wins (Trinidad, De La Hoya) were against smaller opponents who had no business fighting at middleweight.

[Beanflicker]

if Floyd is still beating up grown men who can be his kids on a championship level in 10 years then he can make a case for how good he is, until then

Ok well I guess by that criteria, Bernard Hopkins is the greatest fighter of all time, because there's no other fighter in history who has been so good at that age.