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    Default Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Nothing quite says Interim wba Heavyweight championship quite like a Luis Ortiz who can punch but has fought no one vs a Lateef Kayode who was last being held to a draw with Antonio Tarver..at cruiser.

    The questions of "how & why" are both fighting for first place here . Now, I like Ortiz who has some wicked accurate punches and Kayode is as entertaining in an interview as he is in the ring (not sure what that's saying)...but for a title? Come on. Winner gets Chagaev

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Nothing quite says Interim wba Heavyweight championship quite like a Luis Ortiz who can punch but has fought no one vs a Lateef Kayode who was last being held to a draw with Antonio Tarver..at cruiser.

    The questions of "how & why" are both fighting for first place here . Now, I like Ortiz who has some wicked accurate punches and Kayode is as entertaining in an interview as he is in the ring (not sure what that's saying)...but for a title? Come on. Winner gets Chagaev
    Lol correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the WBA say about 2 years ago that they were going to toss all the baggage? Between stuff like this and future Garcia/Salka like headliners, I'm not sure I'll be able to cut it.

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Hahah, the WBA are trash. I guess with Chagaev now holding the "regular" title for some reason, they may as well try and groom someone to take it from him.. Did Wlad get stripped of that or is he still the super duper diamond champion?

    These guys now have 2 middleweight champions who probably won't fight their super champ Golovkin, it's nonsense.

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Guys I say we all chip in 10, 20$ bucks and start our own title use the money to promote it and before you know it we will be scamming boxers left and right and making a killing.

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Hahah, the WBA are trash. I guess with Chagaev now holding the "regular" title for some reason, they may as well try and groom someone to take it from him.. Did Wlad get stripped of that or is he still the super duper diamond champion?

    These guys now have 2 middleweight champions who probably won't fight their super champ Golovkin, it's nonsense.
    They promoted wladimir after the haye fight to super champion, although I think of the one wladimir has as the actual title and this one chagaev has as the new weird creation...

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    If Ortiz doesn't stop Kayode then he's not the beast I perceive him to be.

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    This is a potential belt for Fury, Price and Joshua to win in the not too distant future. Then we will call it a real title.
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    Im actually going to this card when Im in vegas. Got ringside tickets for a good price and its a decent little card. Im looking forward to it.

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Nothing quite says Interim wba Heavyweight championship quite like a Luis Ortiz who can punch but has fought no one vs a Lateef Kayode who was last being held to a draw with Antonio Tarver..at cruiser.

    The questions of "how & why" are both fighting for first place here . Now, I like Ortiz who has some wicked accurate punches and Kayode is as entertaining in an interview as he is in the ring (not sure what that's saying)...but for a title? Come on. Winner gets Chagaev
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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Just realized it gets a bit worse. Apparently the ghost of Juan Manuel Lopez is being trucked in and fighting for the vacant wba interim featherweight strap against the #1 contender

    Lopez is no longer ranked...anywhere And has the looks of a badly shot up fighter who is all heart and zero chin...and a name.

    Kayode and Ortiz on paper and styles isn't a terrible scrap, but the only belt involved should be the one holding up 'King Kongs' 3x trunks. Gbp has signed up for Swap meet trinket give aways here

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    I actually think this is a decent little card. Ortiz v Kayode should be fun. Lopez fights are always entertaining. Errol Spence looks a good prospect as does Shimmel and also heard rumours of Charlo and Julian Williams being on this card.

    I dont really see what all the complaining is about. If Ortiz wins he deserves to be number one just as much as Wilder does. Ortiz really should be top 10 with most organisations.

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    I actually think this is a decent little card. Ortiz v Kayode should be fun. Lopez fights are always entertaining. Errol Spence looks a good prospect as does Shimmel and also heard rumours of Charlo and Julian Williams being on this card.

    I dont really see what all the complaining is about. If Ortiz wins he deserves to be number one just as much as Wilder does. Ortiz really should be top 10 with most organisations.
    The main is a fun fight. But for a wba belt is a joke, and that's the point. The wba heavyweight ranks are an embarrassment with the reg champ just being out boxed and near clowned by a semi retired Fres Oquendo. Kayode being maneuvered into the top 5 without fighting or beating anyone at heavyweight...and ahead of the number 1 ranked Wilder mentioned. On strictly level of opposition Ortiz would deserve lower top ten I think. I like the guy. But certainly higher than the wba current top 10 hvy...Antonio Tarver .

    Lopez was entertaining, raw explosion and all heart. But the kind of entertaining he shows now is damn scary. He is a spent shell and just 60 days off a beating where his legs were locking, the punches were wide with little on them and his chin bobbing around like a buoy in the wild blue sea. I hoped he would rethink coming back, at the very least this early.

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Rather than making another. It looks like this kicks off at 8:30 pm on FS1, set to run 3 hrs

    They have some decent names on undercard but all facing late TBAs and assumed warm ups. Filler.

    Ortiz vs Kayode in main which should indeed be a fun fight, regardless of politricks.

    Juan M Lopez 34-4 (31) vs Jesus Marcelo Cueller 24-1 (1 in co main

    Jermall Charlo 18-0 (14) fights Noberto Gonzalez 20-4 (13)

    Julian Williams 16-0-1 (10 ) vs Eliezer Gonzalez 14-0 (9)

    Josesito Lopez 32-6 (16) vs Rafael Cobos 15-4-5

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    Default Re: Who says titles are meaningless...Ortiz vs Kayode wtf

    Lopez up 1st. Not sure how serious the talks are for a Khan fight, be he again looks like a jr middle. Wide span. Cobos is built like a tree stump

    Lopez looks a bit out of sorts but fighting smarter at range and countering. Cobos undaunted and starting to fight like he belongs here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Im actually going to this card when Im in vegas. Got ringside tickets for a good price and its a decent little card. Im looking forward to it.
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