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    Default Re: Ali/Holmes/Lyle all say Shavers was Hardest Puncher

    Tex Cobb:"Larry Holmes doesn't hit as hard as Earnie Shavers. Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him.""Earnie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle."

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    Default Re: Norton/Frazier/Tex Cobb all said Earnie Shavers "hardest puncher"

    Tex Cobb:"Larry Holmes doesn't hit as hard as Earnie Shavers. Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him.""Earnie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle."

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
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    29.03.06 - By James Slater: Earnie Shavers turned pro in 1969. When he reached his peak it coincided with a heavyweight division that was enjoying a golden era. Muhammad Ali was at the very top of the pile throughout most of the 1970's, cl

    Earnie's final pro record reads - 72 wins 13 defeats 1 draw with 67 KO's.

    He may have never won a world title, but to my mind he is the undisputed holder of the title "Hardest heavyweight puncher of all-time!"
    @Gandalf right on bro.

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    I don't think that question will ever be answered.

    If we go by end result: No man has ever been injured the way Jess Willard was against Dempsey: broken orbital bone, fractures, teeth(several) knocked out...

    Not saying Dempsey hits harder than Shavers or Tua or Tyson, or Wlad.. hell sounds like loaded gloves, but we dont know that either...so how else can a question be answered without it being subjective as opposed to objective?

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    Default Re: Ali/Holmes/Lyle all say Shavers was Hardest Puncher

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
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    These dipshits cant even come to grips with giving a puncher credit for being a puncher.
    Who didn't give Earnie credit for being a puncher?
    Max power
    I never said he was not a puncher. On the contrary, his punch seemed to be the ONLY thing he had going for him at all. I said his power dropped off remarkably in the realm of what we TODAY call HW.

    I said he failed against heavy opposition. And he failed against quality opposition.

    He was a cruiser-cruncher
    He was a bum-buster

    Almost exclusively!
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    Default Re: Ali/Holmes/Lyle all say Shavers was Hardest Puncher

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Tex Cobb:"Larry Holmes doesn't hit as hard as Earnie Shavers. Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him.""Earnie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle."
    Larry Holmes was not a puncher for a start. And early Larry was basically a cruiser!
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

    Lennox Lewis

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    Default Re: Ali/Holmes/Lyle all say Shavers was Hardest Puncher

    LOL...... @Max Power

    Are you still arguing against what Ali, Holmes, and Lyle were all quoted as saying??

    Give it a rest, bro.

    Once again.... pick your battles. When you start saying that three former fighters are full of shit for saying that Shavers was the one who punched them the hardest...... what are you arguing against? This isn't a fan's point of view, or even PhD in punching power. These are the actual recipients of the punches, expressing their own, personal opinion.

    Do you play poker? Are you familiar with the old Kenny Rogers song?
    That would be my advice to you.

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    George Chuvalo would have knocked his ass out and YOU ALL KNOW THIS
    David Lemieux = Future MW Champ and P4P King

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    Default Re: Norton/Frazier/Tex Cobb all said Earnie Shavers "hardest puncher"

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Randall “Tex” Cobb certified Shavers as one of the hardest punchers ever. "Shavers hit me so hard I never knew what round it was."
    Tex Cobb: "Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him. Earnie Shavers could punch you in the neck and break your ankle."

    Ken Norton: "George Foreman could hurt a fighter with clubbing punches. He just caught me, it was my mistake, I was careless. On the other hand Earnie could put your lights out like nobody else. Definitely Earnie hit harder than Foreman."

    Joe Frazier: "Earnie asked me to fight him. I told him point blank, ‘No way, Earnie. Hey, you hit too damn hard.’
    @Master

    I thought you told me Frazier didn't duck hard punchers?
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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by gyrokai View Post
    To all the Tyson Addicts:
    If Earnie Shavers couldn't knock out an aging Ali.
    A prime Tyson could never KO a prime Ali.
    Prime Tyson would KO ANY Ali under any circumstances.

    Frazier vs Ali is living proof of that.

    The so-called "prime" Ali wasn't even strong enough to enter the ring vs Tyson.

    See Tyson vs Spinks or Tyson vs Ratliff.
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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
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    29.03.06 - By James Slater: Earnie Shavers turned pro in 1969. When he reached his peak it coincided with a heavyweight division that was enjoying a golden era. Muhammad Ali was at the very top of the pile throughout most of the 1970's, cl

    Earnie's final pro record reads - 72 wins 13 defeats 1 draw with 67 KO's.

    He may have never won a world title, but to my mind he is the undisputed holder of the title "Hardest heavyweight puncher of all-time!"
    @Gandalf right on bro.
    How can you be the hardest puncher of all time if you never fought all the boxers throughout all time? LOL
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Based on mass size multiplied by KO results.

    Earnie Shavers at > 6' 0 1/2" and 207 lbs.

    Was, for his size, one of the Top 5 hardest punchers.

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Based on mass size multiplied by KO results.

    Earnie Shavers at > 6' 0 1/2" and 207 lbs.

    Was, for his size, one of the Top 5 hardest punchers.
    Now I like better what I am hearing Bill.

    Except now the bench mark is different. Now your claiming Shavers is "lb for lb" the hardest puncher of all time.

    I don't necessarily agree with that either! I think Tyson hit way WAY harder than Shavers and can't really see any way it could be otherwise. Shavers didn't LOOK like he hit harder than Tyson.

    But in any case, this is a lot better than saying he hit harder than someone like Stiverne for instance, who would shake Shavers best punch off as if it were nothing and then knock his head off into the cheap seats immediately after LOL
    "Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"

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    Default Re: earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

    Der Max

    I stated that Earnie was one of the Top 5 'hardest hitters' based on
    his size and mass.

    By using 'quantom mechanics' coupled with torque, equals mass force.

    Earnie is right up there.

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    Default Re: Earnie Shavers vs. 'Irish Pat' Duncan ~ September 22, 1971

    'Round 3'

    Both fighters meet at Center-Ring.

    'Irish Pat' decides to test Earnie's chin, and starts off by wailing away
    with a fast flurry.

    The punches bounce off of Earnie's head, but he is not bothered by the
    blows.

    'Irish Pat' slams another hard flurry into Earnie, and then backs out fast.

    Earnie trudges forward, and is starting to put aggressive pressure on Pat
    who is backing away slowly.

    At the {1:40 Mark}, Earnie slams in a hard left-hook, and digs a hard right
    into Pat's side. Pat gasps, and circles to his left.

    Earnie 'zings' Pat with a looping right-hand. Pat is shaken, and grabs onto
    Earnie's arms, and holds on until the Referee breaks them apart at the
    {2:05 Mark}.

    Earnie starts working {one-two's} into Pat at the {2:30 Mark}.

    Earnie traps Pat along the Ropes, and starts slamming him with hard blows
    to the upper-body and face.

    At the bell, Pat looks weary and his face is red.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 12-30-2014 at 05:09 AM.

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