Who could beat Floyd at 130?

[Master]

Although the victory over Corrales looks good on paper, the guy had nothing left going into the fight. He had been struggling to make 130 for awhile. In the build up to the fight it was all about Corrales' struggle to make 130.

Of course he never. You forgot to mention that Diego also had an impending jail sentence on his mind too.

Floyd Mayweather has never fought a fair, hard fight in his life.

Yes, now you are seeing the light.

[Lineal]

Although the victory over Corrales looks good on paper, the guy had nothing left going into the fight. He had been struggling to make 130 for awhile. In the build up to the fight it was all about Corrales' struggle to make 130.

Of course he never. You forgot to mention that Diego also had an impending jail sentence on his mind too.

Floyd Mayweather has never fought a fair, hard fight in his life.

I didn't forget to mention the jail sentence, I figured everyone on this forum would already know, I just think Corrales made a dumb mistake by saying he'd fight Floyd at 135 or 130. Stupid mistake like Dawson did with Ward. Corrales was already gone from 130, given up his belt after the Manfredy fight.

[Beanflicker]

I didn't forget to mention the jail sentence, I figured everyone on this forum would already know, I just think Corrales made a dumb mistake by saying he'd fight Floyd at 135 or 130. Stupid mistake like Dawson did with Ward. Corrales was already gone from 130, given up his belt after the Manfredy fight.

It wasn't Corrales' mistake, it was Floyd's demand because like I said he's never had a real fight in his career.

Little known fact about Floyd is that since 1999, he's worked a clause into his contract that every opponent MUST take a mild sedative before the fight. Diego was the first opponent he worked that into because he was scared of Diego's power.

If it was the real Diego who wasn't drugged, didn't beat his wife and get sentenced to jail, and wasn't forced to fight at 130... Floyd wouldn't have made it out of round 3.

[Lineal]

So it was Floyd's demand for Chico to relinquish his belt too?

Whatever, cutting weight is a bitch. Try it sometime.

[Beanflicker]

Whatever, cutting weight is a bitch. Try it sometime.

Wrestled in high school, I've cut weight.

When have you cut weight?

[Beanflicker]

I just find it funny, I've heard every excuse imaginable for every Floyd victory over the past 10 years or so, but I never heard one for Corrales until now

These haters are relentless.

[Lineal]

If having a different opinion causes you to label me a hater then that's fine, although a little immature.

I feel Mayweather would have beaten Corrales at any stage of his career, even without the weight issues as well as everything else going into that fight. But the facts are that Corrales had relinquished his belt to move up to lightweight. He stated in his post fight interview that he'd fight Floyd at 135 or 130, which was a mistake. You need to be at your best to compete against Floyd and Corrales trying to cram down to 130 didn't do himself any favors. He should have waited at lightweight for Floyd to move up. Money talks though.

I've had over a dozen amateur bouts, have often only gotten an opponent on less than a weeks notice and had to boil down to their required weight. Cutting weight sucks.

[Beanflicker]

If having a different opinion causes you to label me a hater then that's fine

[TitoFan]

You're lumping everyone who's not a Floyd nuthugger together, @Beanflicker .
You're better than that.

I think it's pretty obvious separating the Pactards who will never give Floyd his just due, from those intelligent, knowledgeable posters who have valid opinions that do not include hanging from Floyd's nuts. C'mon dude.... Not everyone is either a nuthugger or hater.

[mikeeod]

I pick apart some of Floyd's wins because I think context is important when discussing quality of opposition...etc. That being said, I just can't find a way to fault or discredit Floyd's fights vs Chico and/or Hatton. Both of those fights were ATG performances by Floyd.

Floyd has had difficulty with aggressive maulers who were able to close the distance quickly and force an inside fight (Castillo, Jesus Chavez, Famoso, Hatton and Maidana). The other style that proved difficult was the much larger Oscar, thanks to his effective jab. Floyd was an ATG at 130, so guys like Azumah, Frietas, Casameyor...etc., would've given him some issues, but none, imo, has the style, athleticism and complete toolset necessary to beat Floyd.

Chavez is the one guy who, at that weight, was complete enough and heavy handed enough to pull out the win. I see that fight as 50/50, with JCC's work rate and body attack getting the close decision.

[Lineal]

I'm not saying Floyd wasn't brilliant that night and deserves credit for the victory. Corrales lost 8 pounds the day of the weigh-in and still step on the scale at 132. He spent another 90 minutes in the steam room to get the extra pounds off. Clearly he was not at his best.

[Beanflicker]

You're lumping everyone who's not a Floyd nuthugger together, @Beanflicker .
You're better than that.

I think it's pretty obvious separating the Pactards who will never give Floyd his just due, from those intelligent, knowledgeable posters who have valid opinions that do not include hanging from Floyd's nuts. C'mon dude.... Not everyone is either a nuthugger or hater.

Bro if someone has an excuse for all of Floyd's big wins, to me that's a hater.

When you're trying to diminish a win because Floyd fought a guy at the same weight he had fought over 30 times previous... that's just being a hater.

[Beanflicker]

I'm not saying Floyd wasn't brilliant that night and deserves credit for the victory. Corrales lost 8 pounds the day of the weigh-in and still step on the scale at 132. He spent another 90 minutes in the steam room to get the extra pounds off. Clearly he was not at his best.

The same shit happens to Diego at any weight. He was a very good fighter but he ran into a legit ATG. Lots of guys cut big weight, it's not uncommon for guys to sweat out way more than 8lbs to weigh in. Maidana was 147 for the weigh in and was up to 165 the next day for fight night. That's pure water weight.

[Lineal]

Cutting 10 pounds in a day will affect anyone, lets remember that Mayweather didn't want to lose the 2 for Marquez.

[Beanflicker]

Cutting 10 pounds in a day will affect anyone, lets remember that Mayweather didn't want to lose the 2 for Marquez.

Bro almost EVERYONE cuts that much weight besides Floyd and Pacquaio. It's a part of fight sports: you get in the sauna, you tough it out and you make weight. Almost everyone does it.


Sadam Ali VS Francisco Santana - Contested at Welterweight

Ali: Official: 146.75 - Unofficial: 153
Santana: Official: 146.5 - Unofficial: 167

Sergey Kovalev VS Jean Pascal - Contested at Light Heavyweight

Kovalev: Official: 174.25 - Unofficial: 189

Pascal: Official: 175 - Unofficial: 185

Amir Imam VS Fidel Maldonado Junior - Contested at Light Welterweight

Imam: Official: 140 - Unofficial: 152
Maldonado: Official: 139 - Unofficial: 153

Brandon Rios VS Mike Alvarado - Contested at Welterweight

Rios: 163
Alvarado: 161

Gilberto Ramirez VS Maxim Vlasov - Contested at Light Heavyweight, with a catch-weight limit of 171

Ramirez: 170.5 - 182
Vlasov: 170 - 179

Jermall Charlo VS Lenny Bottai - Contested at Light Middleweight

Charlo: 170
Bottai: 160

Erislandy Lara VS Ishe Smith - Contested at Light Middleweight

Lara: 170.5
Smith: ?

Terence Crawford VS Yuriorkis Gamboa - Contested at Lightweight

Crawford: 152
Gamboa: 145

Orlando Salido VS Vasyl Lomachenko - This was scheduled for Featherweight

Salido: 147
Lomachenko: 136


Need I go on? Salido cut almost 20lbs in a day, missed weight and went on to beat Lomanchenko (with the help of a lot of low blows but whatever). That's boxing, people cut weight, they rehydrate, and they fight.