Boxing Forums


.



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  10
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 33

Thread: Should AJ change trainer?

Share/Bookmark
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    18,952
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1599
    Cool Clicks

    Default Should AJ change trainer?

    Lennox and Warren have both said that Rob McCracken is simply not good enough.

    If he did make the move who would be the right man to go to?

    “I say you can’t go to university with your third-grade teacher,” said Lewis.

    “They won’t have the answers you need at that level. You need a professor by then.”

    Frank Warren appears to be of the same opinion.

    Warren told The Telegraph: “I’ve made my views clear about the trainer. Somebody’s got to be accountable for this. I don’t like the trainer at all.

    “I think his job as an amateur where he gets the best fighters given to him, everything’s been done with them.

    “What’s he doing, an amateur trainer, training Joshua for professional title fights? What sparring operations is he getting? Sparring with amateurs.”

    https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/5...-andy-ruiz-jr/

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Leeds, UK
    Posts
    7,895
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1550
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    love that quote from Lennox. Sums it up
    Don't bully fat kids - they've got enough on their plate

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    This Lunatic Asylum
    Posts
    22,915
    Mentioned
    400 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2821
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Blokes that always slag off AJ revel in his demise. What a surprise. Trainer gets boot. Another surprise. Lennox worked wonders for Price.

    How about Virgil Hunter? Floyd Snr? FreDdie? Abel?

    Tunde Ajayi? LIONS IN THE CAMP! Big up!
    Last edited by Fenster; 06-05-2019 at 03:37 AM.
    3-Time SADDO PREDICTION COMP CHAMPION.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Leeds, UK
    Posts
    7,895
    Mentioned
    20 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1550
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Good point re Lennox and Price

    At the moment that's how I see AJ faring in a rematch...
    Don't bully fat kids - they've got enough on their plate

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    6,047
    Mentioned
    72 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    427
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    so Lennox Lewis and Frank Warren reckon he should change his trainer eh? 2 of the saltiest wankers I've ever heard in my life! Lennox couldn't wait to have a dig at Joshua (but do it sneakily by criticizing the trainer, then he can say "but yeah , I love AJ , it's not his fault man!" ) kind of comment @ronswanson would make!
    And Frank Warren , ok so he doesn't think McCracken is good enough or experienced enough, yet his guy Tyson Fury is trained by Ben Davidson !!!! (who I like btw.)
    He could resurrect Cus D'Amato, Manny Steward and Angelo Dundee, roll them into one , and it still won't work if you don't do as they're telling you too! McCracken repeatedly told him to throw more jabs, double up on his jabs, and for whatever reason , he just fucking pawed it out there.
    Changing trainer would be the worst thing he could possibly do. You start changing trainers , thinking there's a golden cure or solution to your problem , and when you realize there isn't you spiral the way that Haye and Khan did and keep changing trainers. Also , it's a get out isn't it? "yeah me and the trainer didn't gel, it's not my fault!"
    Former Undisputed 4 belt Prediction champion. Still P4P and People’s Champion.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    south of england near brighton
    Posts
    1,426
    Mentioned
    3 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    770
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Froch didnt have the best defence lol so maybe BUT RM is clearly a world class trainer - so would be for styles, not becuase of the quality

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    18,952
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1599
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Thing is Froch had a granite chin AJ doesn't

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    56,696
    Mentioned
    1457 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2699
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Why was AJ so poor? If it was because of other reasons not boxing training related then why blame his trainer and fire him?

    The AJ that beat Povetkin/Parker/Wlad would have won this fight.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    11,507
    Mentioned
    116 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2160
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Who cares ? he lost a fight, boxers are just gladiators who entertain us.
    Once they become irrelevant nobody cares anymore.
    Remember reality is an illusion caused by a lack of alcohol .

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    58,467
    Mentioned
    515 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2981
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Why was AJ so poor?
    He bought into his own hype. Going to basketball games, being a celebrity....not everyone can do that and keep focused.


    Yes he should change trainers
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    56,696
    Mentioned
    1457 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2699
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Why was AJ so poor?
    He bought into his own hype. Going to basketball games, being a celebrity....not everyone can do that and keep focused.


    Yes he should change trainers
    If that is all true then changing trainers will not help him. If it is his attitude and mindset then this should be a huge wake up call but I think it is something more than that. I can believe he was injured before the fight as he looked a shadow of himself in that ring. AJ has faced Ruiz type opponents before and dealt with them easily.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    58,467
    Mentioned
    515 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2981
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    If that is all true then changing trainers will not help him. If it is his attitude and mindset then this should be a huge wake up call but I think it is something more than that. I can believe he was injured before the fight as he looked a shadow of himself in that ring. AJ has faced Ruiz type opponents before and dealt with them easily.
    Sometimes trainers can reign that focus in. Look at Tyson with Cus & Rooney vs with anyone else. He wasn't injured, he just fought a stupid fight because he thought he was invincible. Give up height, give up reach, give counter punching opportunities galore...yeah he gave up all his advantages and Ruiz wasn't just there to lie down and this is what happens.

    Train right, use height, reach, control distance and pace, tie up when hurt, and this isn't an issue at all
    Last edited by El Kabong; 06-05-2019 at 07:19 AM.
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    18,952
    Mentioned
    84 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1599
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Povetkin was the closest to Ruiz stylewise and he broke AJs nose, wobbled him and won the opening 4 rounds.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    58,467
    Mentioned
    515 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2981
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Quote Originally Posted by smashup View Post
    Povetkin was the closest to Ruiz stylewise and he broke AJs nose, wobbled him and won the opening 4 rounds.
    Povetkin was at least still seemingly dangerous....Ruiz was looked at like he was a Carebear and no threat at all. Ergo AJ's willingness to give up height, reach etc.

    Hippopotamuses don't LOOK dangerous but they kill a bunch of unsuspecting people and that's exactly what happened to AJ...first he's thinking "awww a chubby little hippo" and next thing you know he's been demolished.


    Again the bad part is this wasn't just a 1 punch surprise or a follow up after 1 punch, this was a nightmare on repeat.....this will seriously damage AJ's career. He won't be the same fighter in that he'll probably never have that confidence to color outside the lines in a fight ever again. He's going to have to turn himself into a robot in order to get back to being the best. That's a hard mountain to scale.
    "Drown in a vat of whiskey.....death where is thy sting?" - W.C. Fields.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    4,523
    Mentioned
    2 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1089
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: Should AJ change trainer?

    Yes is the answer to this question. No need for over analysis on that one. I think it's obvious he does


    also surprised to hear that after getting bounced off the canvas 4 times, suffering concussion and taking a sustained beating Joshua was ahead on one of the cards at the time of the stoppage so the fix was in regardless as it was with Katie Taylor n josh Kelly earlier in the night who got saved by dodgy scorecards

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 17
    Last Post: 04-28-2017, 10:29 PM
  2. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 05-13-2007, 06:24 PM

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  





Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Videos | Boxing Forum | Boxing Books | Boxing Posters | Learn to Box | Advanced Fighting Methods | Boxing Rankings | Boxing Schedule | Auctions | Fun and Games | Boxing Equipment

Copyright © 2000 - 2019 Saddo Boxing - Boxing