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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    Watson got outclassed by McCallum so it shows you the USA fighters were a level above our British fighters. On their best day, Roy, Toney and Nunn beat Benn, Watson and Eubank.
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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    I think the Body Snatcher was Jamaican, but I take your point.

    I loved the Benn/Eubank years and still am a massive Benn fan. Met both guys several times and liked Benn (but was wary of him as he is still something of a nutter). Eubank was really polite and pleasant to me and my sister.

    Jones was something else though. A once in a generation talent. I don't swallow most of the 'multiple weight' crap as there are so many weights so close to each other that it's easier to move around them nowadays.

    Back in the day he would have starved down to middleweight for a while, before mainly campaigning at light heavy. Going up and defeating a genuine (albeit horribly limited) heavyweight in Ruiz cements his legend. He did what Bob Foster and Archie Moore couldn't do.

    I really respect Jones' talent, skills and accomplishments in the ring.

    Unfortunately (?), he was such a freakish physical talent that he didn't really have solid pro technique to fall back in when his reflexes started to go. That's why his success didn't last as long as Moore, Joe Walcott or even Floyd.

    All time world great fighter in my opinion. Whereas Benn and Eubank are all time national greats.
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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    I think the Body Snatcher was Jamaican, but I take your point.

    I loved the Benn/Eubank years and still am a massive Benn fan. Met both guys several times and liked Benn (but was wary of him as he is still something of a nutter). Eubank was really polite and pleasant to me and my sister.

    Jones was something else though. A once in a generation talent. I don't swallow most of the 'multiple weight' crap as there are so many weights so close to each other that it's easier to move around them nowadays.

    Back in the day he would have starved down to middleweight for a while, before mainly campaigning at light heavy. Going up and defeating a genuine (albeit horribly limited) heavyweight in Ruiz cements his legend. He did what Bob Foster and Archie Moore couldn't do.

    I really respect Jones' talent, skills and accomplishments in the ring.

    Unfortunately (?), he was such a freakish physical talent that he didn't really have solid pro technique to fall back in when his reflexes started to go. That's why his success didn't last as long as Moore, Joe Walcott or even Floyd.

    All time world great fighter in my opinion. Whereas Benn and Eubank are all time national greats.







    There's always been the rumour that Jones ducked Benn after seeing how his old mate Gerald Mcclellan ended up, Read the Jones interview from 2008 below - Jones was definitely way more conscious of what could happen to any fighter after that night and it definitely affected him but he doesn't go deeper into the subject.
    There is also stories that Benn priced himself out of a potential fight with Jones in 1993 but also stories that Jones was too inexperienced back then
    Don King was promoting Jones back then so anything could have stopped the fight happening
    Would love to know the real story of why they never fought

    Seems weird that our UK elite never faced the US elite (barring Ben v G-Man) back in the day
    Wonder if @Scrap might know something


    But having fought professionally in three decades he admits to being sickened at what his sport can produce. 'You wouldn't want to watch a bad situation,' he says, conceding he could never see a tape of a boxer being seriously injured. 'You don't want to see that happen to no other fighter.'
    Jones, a deeply religious man who describes his relationship with God as 'the only thing that kept me going through this whole thing', understands that potential disaster is always near.
    'Every fighter is close to that every time they go in the ring. It can happen any time. You don't know when it could.'
    In February 1995 it happened to his friend Gerald McClellan, when he lost to Britain's Nigel Benn in a particularly brutal WBC super-middleweight title fight. Stopped in the 10th round, McClellan, a dog-fighting fan who had beaten Jones as an amateur, slipped into a prolonged coma. He lost his eyesight, could not walk and is now almost completely deaf. At 27 his life had changed forever.
    Has Jones ever watched the bout? 'You would never watch that fight again. You wouldn't want to watch it,' he says, quietly.
    Had he visited McClellan since the bout? 'I don't need to - it would make me quit boxing.'
    Quit? 'Yeah.'
    Why? He repeats: 'Cos it'd make me quit boxing.'
    Pressed further he says: 'My reason would be more because I don't want to do that to nobody.'
    Is it a worry that he has the potential to do so? 'You wouldn't want to be the one who did it.'
    Jones's quiet manner can make him seem uninterested, but he is actually thoughtful and open to most subjects. And, despite having taken his share of blows during 134 amateur and 52 professional fights, he is still of clear mind.
    'That's my strong point. With me I come in the ring and start thinking right away,' he says. 'My thought process is just to put a guy down. I'm like a technician and learn to break it all down - from head to toe.'
    But he returns to what can happen to even the very best of fighters.
    'I don't think Nigel Benn was the same after he did that to Gerald. I fought
    Gerald once,' he says. 'He was a very good fighter.'

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...portinterviews

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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    Think this was one of the first times they'd been seen together in public in years after all the hate, Was when Witter beat Corley for the title in 2006 at Alexander Palace in London.
    Tried to get closer to both and blag an interview but was in the press section working for some Boxing Website and couldn't get near them.



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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Watson got outclassed by McCallum so it shows you the USA fighters were a level above our British fighters. On their best day, Roy, Toney and Nunn beat Benn, Watson and Eubank.
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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    With all due respect to Eubank, Benn, Collins and Watson, I think Toney would have whipped all of them. Grand Rapids representin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidgil View Post
    With all due respect to Eubank, Benn, Collins and Watson, I think Toney would have whipped all of them. Grand Rapids representin!
    Eubank would have given him the toughest time, but Benn....James Toney would have mopped the floor with that guy!



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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    Can not rank Roy Jones above Eubanks, as a known drug cheat Jones should be last.

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    Default Re: Best fighter? RJJ, Benn or Eubank?

    Benn improved his defence after each loss and I think the Benn that beat G Man would have beaten Eubank and should have got the decsion.

    Benn was the best of the British and that version would have given Toney a good fight.
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