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    Default I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    First and foremost I hope all you fuckers are doing well... Been a while since I posted here. I missed you (some not all) sad fucks. For those who don't know me damn! I've been gone too long. For those that do, fuck off!

    So I was thinking as Floyds career begins to wind down where will he end up in my all time list? Keep in mind lists are like assholes. Everybody's got one. Depending on how you rank fighters. He can be top 100, top 50 or in my case 30-40.
    THE ONLY THING FLOYD LACKS COMPARED TO THESE GUYS IS OPPOSITION.
    Even then he gets full credit from me for his fights vs. Chicanito Hernandez, Cotto, Corrales, Hatton, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo. Since the Mosley fight regardless of how you view his opposition he has fought some top names. He just makes them look mediocre. Even after he settled in vs. Maidana he was making him look slow and average at times.
    Keep in mind I DON'T rank fighters whom I don't know enough of and or have not seen enough footage to judge them on. I simply refuse to rank fighters I've seen and know a lot of with fighters whom I've only read of. With that being said over time I've learned more and more about a lot of fighters whom 8 or 9 years ago I did not know much of and now today I can rank them.

    Notable fighters I don't rank: Sam Langford, Harry Greb, Bob Fitzsimmons, Joe Gans, Benny Leonard & Mickey Walker among others.

    So here it is for you to shred & tare apart... Where does Floyd rank all time? Today for me anywhere between 30-40.

    40. Oscar De La Hoya
    39. Carlos Zarate
    38. Miguel Canto
    37. Manuel Ortiz
    36. Lou Ambers
    35. Dick Tiger
    34. Marciano
    33. Saldivar
    32. Wilfredo Gomez
    31. Holyfield
    30. Olivares
    29. Hopkins
    28. Harada
    27. Carlos Ortiz
    26. Ike Williams
    25. Hearns
    24. M. Spinks
    23. Jofre
    22. Sanchez
    21. Lopez
    20. Arguello
    19. Napoles
    18. Emile
    17. Kid Gavilan
    16. Roy Jones
    15. Hagler
    14, Canzoneri
    13. Pernell
    12. Ross
    11. Louis
    10. Monzon
    9. Chavez
    8. SRL
    7. Archie
    6. Pep
    5. Duran
    4. Ezzard
    3. Ali
    2. Armstrong
    1. SRR
    Last edited by CutMeMick; 05-13-2014 at 12:39 AM.

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Spam!

    Just kidding! Welcome back!

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    By the way I scored the fight 115-113 for Floyd...

    1. M
    2. F
    3. M
    4. M
    5. M
    6. F
    7. F
    8. F
    9. F
    10. F (The toughest round to score for me)
    11. M (Tough round to score)
    12. F (Tough round to score)

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    My score card was:
    1-floyd
    2-floyd
    3-marcos
    4-marcos
    5-marcos
    6-floyd
    7-floyd
    8-marcos
    9-floyd
    10-floyd
    11-floyd
    12-marcos

    For all his wild aggression, Maidana wasn't really connecting much. Remember punches to the hips, upper back, lower back and back of the head aren't scoring blows. Neither are dick punches.
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    Mick, just curious as to how u rank Roy ahead of Floyd, Hop, n Oscar? R u ranking more off of potential vs accomplishments?

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    I agree with number 1 so who cares about the rest.

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Mick, just curious as to how u rank Roy ahead of Floyd, Hop, n Oscar? R u ranking more off of potential vs accomplishments?
    @mikeeod
    RJJ catches a lot of shit for the latter part of his career... While it does take into consideration. My ranking consists of an all time career. This means opposition, accomplishments, titles, overall skills, wins vs. loses.
    Take someone like Emile Griffith or Ezzard Charles with over 20 loses. Yes they form part of their record but it needs to be noted the loses came at the end of their careers.

    RJJ was a supreme fighter unlike anything we have ever seen and probably will ever see. Part human part amazing. I used to rank RJJ very low on my lists about 5 yrs ago I don't even think he was in my top 30 until I took off my "hater" glasses and saw his career for what it was. Saw his skills without thinking well it's just Gonzalez or Kelly or it was a young Hopkins or a young Toney. RJJ at his peak was the most athletically gifted boxer that has ever stepped into a ring.

    I say this often my lists tend to change as I learn more and more, years back I couldn't rank Ezzard, Canzoneri or Ross but I've been doing a lot of research and reading and watching as many of their fights as I could get a hold of.

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Floyd's in my top 3 of all time easily.

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Props for being brave and put out a list. Everybody will pick it apart. Good to see you around Mick!



    I completely disagree but who cares....

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    well you seem to know what you are talking about which is nice. although i have a few problems with your list, its not too bad. i am like you though, there are certain fighters that i just dont know enough about. maybe i just dont know enough about ezzard charles but you seem to rank him really high for some reason. although he is arguably the best LHW ever.

    for me, i cant rank floyd below top 25 but im sure that he is in my top 20. i havent made a list so i cant say for sure where. he isnt in my top 10 though.

    i am glad that you have taken off your hater glasses for jones. he was so good and people just hate on him. IMO, he is the best fighter of the past 25 years.

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Good to see you Cut i thought you might of died or something like think saddo did also i agree with alot of the list but not all of it but shit well thought out at least. After all this talk of rating think we should have atg list for old generation and the new one split up. Like form the 1900 to 1960's and the 1970's to like now and then have a ranking list for those eras kinda like hall of fame has i think. Anyhow i am curious how much footage did you get to see of the older fighters a lot of the older ones i have really search to see and read a fucking shit ton about sure as shit ain't easy i will tell you that.

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Don't call it a comeback!! Ha. Agreed on his area of rank though ATG list can at times be as subjective and broad as even a p4p list. Titles, defences, opposition, or just looking at a guy and knowing he's more skilled...etc. Its a big difficult ball of wax at times. I'd have a hard time putting Sr. in the top 10 but that's just me. Jones I still have not cracking 20 ish and put Lopez ahead although like you said he too may take strikes because of lack of comp or even moving up. But on skill and pure craft Lopez, on athleticism and phenomenal reflex Jones. I still think Mayweather will always regret his departure immediately after Hatton as the division seemed to pass him by and he indeed missed some big opportunities to cement greatness. I gotta crash. Welcome back chief!

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    First and foremost I hope all you fuckers are doing well... Been a while since I posted here. I missed you (some not all) sad fucks. For those who don't know me damn! I've been gone too long. For those that do, fuck off!

    So I was thinking as Floyds career begins to wind down where will he end up in my all time list? Keep in mind lists are like assholes. Everybody's got one. Depending on how you rank fighters. He can be top 100, top 50 or in my case 30-40.
    THE ONLY THING FLOYD LACKS COMPARED TO THESE GUYS IS OPPOSITION.
    Even then he gets full credit from me for his fights vs. Chicanito Hernandez, Cotto, Corrales, Hatton, C. Hernandez, Chavez, Castillo. Since the Mosley fight regardless of how you view his opposition he has fought some top names. He just makes them look mediocre. Even after he settled in vs. Maidana he was making him look slow and average at times.
    Keep in mind I DON'T rank fighters whom I don't know enough of and or have not seen enough footage to judge them on. I simply refuse to rank fighters I've seen and know a lot of with fighters whom I've only read of. With that being said over time I've learned more and more about a lot of fighters whom 8 or 9 years ago I did not know much of and now today I can rank them.

    Notable fighters I don't rank: Sam Langford, Harry Greb, Bob Fitzsimmons, Joe Gans, Benny Leonard & Mickey Walker among others.

    So here it is for you to shred & tare apart... Where does Floyd rank all time? Today for me anywhere between 30-40.

    40. Oscar De La Hoya
    39. Carlos Zarate
    38. Miguel Canto
    37. Manuel Ortiz
    36. Lou Ambers
    35. Dick Tiger
    34. Marciano
    33. Saldivar
    32. Wilfredo Gomez
    31. Holyfield
    30. Olivares
    29. Hopkins
    28. Harada
    27. Carlos Ortiz
    26. Ike Williams
    25. Hearns
    24. M. Spinks
    23. Jofre
    22. Sanchez
    21. Lopez
    20. Arguello
    19. Napoles
    18. Emile
    17. Kid Gavilan
    16. Roy Jones
    15. Hagler
    14, Canzoneri
    13. Pernell
    12. Ross
    11. Louis
    10. Monzon
    9. Chavez
    8. SRL
    7. Archie
    6. Pep
    5. Duran
    4. Ezzard
    3. Ali
    2. Armstrong
    1. SRR

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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    whether anyone agrees with it or not its a good effort

    for me in terms of his actual carear and whos hes fought blaa blaa blaa you coud rank him somewhere between 30 and 40

    i personally think that if all those fighters were to actually fight each other in some kind of lb4lb super tournament then floyd would finish a lot higher than 30 to 40th

    as would calazaghe finish a lot higher than not on it
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    Default Re: I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

    Mick!!! Oh sheit! Welcome back. Hella happy to see you here...

    since 'selfies' have really kicked off, I imagine you've been pretty busy ay?

    I agree with not rating people who you haven't seen.... I tried looking for footage of Harry Greb recently and it was like looking for footage of Jesus!
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