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    Default If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    Why don't they kick it up a notch or remain consistent throughout a fight? Oftentimes, we see guys who are going against favorites/cash cows get complacent or content after getting ahead, only to lose a decision.

    Not to take away from the opponent, but there are clear instances where this has occurred.

    If you are going in against a more popular fighter, you have to already know that you can't let up at anytime during the fight and win convincingly.

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    Default Re: If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    The underdog status is there safety net. Allows them to cry robbery afterwards

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    Default Re: If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    I disagree. A fight is 12 rounds scored on a round by round basis. It is not the challenger/underdogs duty to go out, take crazy risks, and either score the KO or be KO'ed. It is boxing and should be about those 12 rounds and that alone. Who won the most rounds based on effective aggression, ring generalship, and clean punching. We make excuses for corruption in so many ways and the result is an amoral age. Why can we not just erase BS politics and score a fight based on 12 rounds and cut out nonsense like 'He's the underdog so he should land at least 30% more punches to win'. What happened to just having a fight and for it to be scored as fairly as can be? It was a boring fight, but there is no judging criteria to say 'He was a bit dull, I'm just not going to give him points'. Either you win the round or you didn't based on the judging criteria. It doesn't have to be a thriller. I like excitement too, but as a boxing fan, we should see different things and score it as fairly as we can. All this talk of underdogs and needing to do significantly more than the other guy is just a corrupt way of thinking.

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    Default Re: If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    Just realised I missed defense. Silly me.

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    Default Re: If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    In theory they have equal chance of winning as they all start on a level playing field. Reality is they have to try even harder. Safety net is crying robbery but surprises can happen where they get the decision when they do not deserve it. Circle of unfair life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Why don't they kick it up a notch or remain consistent throughout a fight? Oftentimes, we see guys who are going against favorites/cash cows get complacent or content after getting ahead, only to lose a decision.

    Not to take away from the opponent, but there are clear instances where this has occurred.

    If you are going in against a more popular fighter, you have to already know that you can't let up at anytime during the fight and win convincingly.
    Its pretty obvious that it would not have mattered what Lara did with that bought and paid for 117/111 card. By the time Alvarez finished his ring walk he was up 3- nil. Martinez probably filled out his round stubs on the airplane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sleepwalker View Post
    Why don't they kick it up a notch or remain consistent throughout a fight? Oftentimes, we see guys who are going against favorites/cash cows get complacent or content after getting ahead, only to lose a decision.

    Not to take away from the opponent, but there are clear instances where this has occurred.

    If you are going in against a more popular fighter, you have to already know that you can't let up at anytime during the fight and win convincingly.
    Its pretty obvious that it would not have mattered what Lara did with that bought and paid for 117/111 card. By the time Alvarez finished his ring walk he was up 3- nil. Martinez probably filled out his round stubs on the airplane.
    LOL, a little harsh. I'm sure he waited until he arrived at MGM.

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    Default Re: If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    Because sometimes a guy gets scared. You get hard and it hurts and the fight plan goes out the window.

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    Default Re: If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    Sometimes they are underdogs not because of who gets the first ring walk and bigger lettering on promotion...but because they are not as good. Guys like Gamboa or Lara...even a Loma came into this praised and adorned because of amateur glory. It has to be a hard stubborn separation and coming to reality as some guys never make adjustments and refine fundamentals, and some sort it out rather quickly.

    Underdogs and journeymen are what keep boxing in existence. Some just want to pay the rent and sit by the phone ready TBA. Some earn a title, have solid defenses and still have to scratch and claw for mention because we are stuck on divas and half arsed ill prepaired prospects who have the big stage handed to them.

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    You cant ask a slick boxer to go out there and fight like Mike Tyson just cause they're the underdog for fucks sake!

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    Default Re: If underdogs are fully aware they ARE underdogs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Maravilla2012 View Post
    You cant ask a slick boxer to go out there and fight like Mike Tyson just cause they're the underdog for fucks sake!
    No you can't. But it might serve him best to shut the fuck up with all that "he's gonna dominated and stop his opponent" talk. Yeah it's part of hyping the fight. But when you say it personal and you got no respect for your opponent, some people might expect you to actually fight.

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