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Mo Farah, Chris Froome, Bradley Wiggins, Justin Rose, Mike Catt, Mako Vunipola, Manu Tuilagi, Toby Faletau, John Barnes, Owen Hargreaves, Greg Rusedski and let's not even mention Cricketers.
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The name's you've listed here Primo are good examples of a template for nationality being impossible.
So, let's take Bradley Wiggins. You've included him because he was born in Belgium. Yet his parents were in Belgium as his dad was a professional cyclist. He was raised in St Helens, is clearly a Lancashire lad and is 100% British IMO. His Belgium link is about as relevant as my mate's Papua New Guinea link.
On the other hand Greg Rusedski. Now, I liked the bloke, but most people wouldn't consider him to be a British man. I mean, he just isn't. He's a Canadian with links to Britain that played under the British flag. As such I supported him. But, is he British like Wiggins? No.
For someone like Mo Farah, being a refugee at a young age, his nationality is mostly defined by his own self-identity. For him, he is British. For me, he's British. Somalian roots of course but he proudly represents his country. In fact, in 2012 when some wag questioned whether he should run for Somalia Mo was rightly outraged.
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Mate, I was just using @Beanz's criteria based on where they were born and trying to highlight how fucking stupid it is. Of course I don't believe Bradley Wiggins is Belgian.
in my opinion , every case has its own merits.
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I'm going to apply that to Calzaghe then and say that he felt so Italian and non-British that he won multiple BRITISH ABA titles, competed at European Juniors for BRITAIN and tried to qualify for BRITAIN's 1992 Olympic team, where, had he done so, he would have tried to win gold for BRITAIN!! .
So, by your Lennox logic, Calzaghe IS British because of who he represented as a amateur? Or do you not apply that to Calzaghe?
Just put it simply Primo, what do you think is the key facet of someone's nationality?
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Just to clarify for the millionth time, Calzaghe is WELSH.
I merely pointed out that he is more in touch with his Italian heritage than his British identity.
Finally, I'm on my mobile , so not very good at pasting old posts, but on page 2 of this endless saga, it's there for all to see that you blatantly lied and bullshitted to make your case sound more acceptable and mine more absurd.
"Even his dad moved from Italy to England when he was two " that is a blatant lie which you thought you would get away with.
So anyway, please either change the habit of a lifetime and address your statement and explain yourself or do not bother replying.
If you can bullshit about that, you can bullshit about anything and there will be absolutely no point continuing unless you explain yourself.
I am not Ryanman, but anyhoos
"Born in Sassari, Sardinia,in 1949, Enzo Calzaghe, Joe's father, had his first taste of Britain aged two, when his family moved to Bedford. "
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...ng.joecalzaghe
Wales is the country ive been to most times apart from england
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But my point about saying Lewis boxing for Canada makes him Canadian must also logically mean that Calzaghe boxing for Britain makes him British was a pertinent one. At least I thought so.
Primo - Calzaghe is more Italian than British because he identifies as such.
Ryan - Lennox identified as British but you consider him Canadian.
Primo - Because Lennox boxed for Canada.
Ryan - But Calzaghe boxed for Britain.
Primo - Calzaghe is Welsh.
The definition of a circular argument and moving goalposts.
But anyway yes I agree. Calzaghe is undoubtedly a Welshman. Which in turn makes him British. With a recent Italian heritage. Those things are all factual.
And it's not that serious so let's just get along
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HAHAHAHAHAHA! Fucking Priceless! you copied and pasted part of it to mislead , like I said you fucking would ! but you missed out the following :
"the family returned to Sardinia, where Enzo spent the rest of his formative years dreaming of becoming a professional footballer.
After completing national service in the late 1960s the 21-year-old Enzo grabbed a guitar and some clothes and vowed not to return to Sassari until he had made a name for himself. Having hitch-hiked his way across Europe, sleeping rough and busking from his Simon and Garfunkel songbook, he ended up on a tomato ship bound for Bournemouth, where he got a job working in a restaurant during the day and sleeping there at night."
so he went BACK to Sardinia, Grew up (like you should! ) did his national fucking service and then went travelling!
dear oh dear @Beanz, that hole is getting bigger and bigger.
Ps. my apologies @ryanman , definitely mistaken identity from my part. You are safe from being accused of being @Beanz!!
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