RollingStone crossed the line imo

[El Kabong]

Rolling Stone Piece -- in 50 Seconds

Greg Gutfeld summarizes the Rolling Stone piece

[El Kabong]

An interesting (yet now deleted) Tweet from Rolling Stone's editor

'@'Christianhoard "I guess we should have drawn a dick on Dzhokhar's face or something?"

[IamInuit]

Seriously what happened to "common sense"? Where did it go and when is it coming back? Its certainly no longer common. Ok so news print is dying the death of a thousand cuts and they need to sell issues but at what cost morally? As a struggling utilitarian I believe profit has become some kind of omnipotent eternal nightmare.

Here is an idea in the next issue how about you put that butcher psychopath who cut that British soldiers head off in broad daylight on the cover in a Polo shirt, holding a bottle of Jack Daniels with and ad for Cold Plays next cry me a river record underneath it?

[Gandalf]

It's an overreaction. Lyle, knows that I watch Piers Morgan and some guy who hated the cover was asked 'Have you read the article'. His response was basically: 'No, the picture is enough'. It is such a shallow attitude and why they were even interviewing this man was a bit pathetic. It's just an image and how the guy looked. He is on the front of a magazine. Read it for gods sake and then decide. Personally, I can see why they did it, think it was a good job, and of course it is firmly in tradition for Rolling Stone.

[El Kabong]

It's an overreaction. Lyle, knows that I watch Piers Morgan and some guy who hated the cover was asked 'Have you read the article'. His response was basically: 'No, the picture is enough'. It is such a shallow attitude and why they were even interviewing this man was a bit pathetic. It's just an image and how the guy looked. He is on the front of a magazine. Read it for gods sake and then decide. Personally, I can see why they did it, think it was a good job, and of course it is firmly in tradition for Rolling Stone.

No it's a slap in the face of people who have suffered due to the actions of that monster. Write the story by all means...but how about a picture of the BOMBING or the victims or a less "regular guy" picture of Tsarnaev? I guarantee you if they put a picture of George Zimmerman on the cover they would have made HIM look like a monster why? BECAUSE OF THEIR AGENDA...what does Rolling Stone want the reader to take away from this story? Tsarnaev was an easy going every day average dude who smoked pot and was the typical Rolling Stone reader who somehow got into radical Islam through no fault of his own.

With issues like this there are certain people who ALWAYS look in the mirror...."Well surely this happened because of something I/WE/America did wrong....let's navel gaze a bit and see if we can't figure out why"...fuck that attitude, some people CHOOSE to be bad, they CHOOSE to break the law, they CHOOSE to kill, to murder, to attack, and they don't need a reason or some life changing event to get them headed down that road.

[Gandalf]

It's an overreaction. Lyle, knows that I watch Piers Morgan and some guy who hated the cover was asked 'Have you read the article'. His response was basically: 'No, the picture is enough'. It is such a shallow attitude and why they were even interviewing this man was a bit pathetic. It's just an image and how the guy looked. He is on the front of a magazine. Read it for gods sake and then decide. Personally, I can see why they did it, think it was a good job, and of course it is firmly in tradition for Rolling Stone.

No it's a slap in the face of people who have suffered due to the actions of that monster. Write the story by all means...but how about a picture of the BOMBING or the victims or a less "regular guy" picture of Tsarnaev? I guarantee you if they put a picture of George Zimmerman on the cover they would have made HIM look like a monster why? BECAUSE OF THEIR AGENDA...what does Rolling Stone want the reader to take away from this story? Tsarnaev was an easy going every day average dude who smoked pot and was the typical Rolling Stone reader who somehow got into radical Islam through no fault of his own.

With issues like this there are certain people who ALWAYS look in the mirror...."Well surely this happened because of something I/WE/America did wrong....let's navel gaze a bit and see if we can't figure out why"...fuck that attitude, some people CHOOSE to be bad, they CHOOSE to break the law, they CHOOSE to kill, to murder, to attack, and they don't need a reason or some life changing event to get them headed down that road.

Lyle, he was a human being and an image was put on the cover. It is no different to Charles Manson being on the cover. It is a story with a lot behind it and Rolling Stone fleshed it out as few others have. I don't understand the issues with an anti-hero being put on the front. The fact was for much of his life he was a likeable young chap. It is that dichotonmy that gets people all twisted up.

I think Rollingstone have done a very good job here and only those who haven't read the article will have issues with it. The article itself is very well researched and the cover is just to show the duality involved in character.

[El Kabong]

They are helping to make him a martyr and the young skulls full of mush will read the article and maybe instead of buying a Che t-shirt they'll buy a Tsarnaev one.

He is a murderer and a coward long may he rot in jail

[Britkid]

With issues like this there are certain people who ALWAYS look in the mirror...."Well surely this happened because of something I/WE/America did wrong....let's navel gaze a bit and see if we can't figure out why"...fuck that attitude, some people CHOOSE to be bad, they CHOOSE to break the law, they CHOOSE to kill, to murder, to attack, and they don't need a reason or some life changing event to get them headed down that road.

Just because it is more complicated and less straight forward to realize people do things for reasons, often outside their own control, does not make it any less truthful.

This issue is not black and white/good and bad, both sides here have areas of grey. It is not right a young child died. But that death is not entirely the fault of one individual. It is in part due to the failings of society, that this man could do such a terrible act.

To just blame one individual would be a failing of society, and will almost certainly lead to the death of another young child. If the problem is going to be solved, it first needs to be addressed...

And the fact that people on this forum no matter what their views are debating this subject, shows as well as getting a load of free advertising, The Rolling Stone magazine has helped push forward debate on the subject.

[Gandalf]

They are helping to make him a martyr and the young skulls full of mush will read the article and maybe instead of buying a Che t-shirt they'll buy a Tsarnaev one.

He is a murderer and a coward long may he rot in jail

Apply the same rules to your own military services overseas too. Many murderers there too, but they have the authority to do so. Personally, I see little to no difference between that and this.

[El Kabong]

They are helping to make him a martyr and the young skulls full of mush will read the article and maybe instead of buying a Che t-shirt they'll buy a Tsarnaev one.

He is a murderer and a coward long may he rot in jail

Apply the same rules to your own military services overseas too. Many murderers there too, but they have the authority to do so. Personally, I see little to no difference between that and this.

Again, the suggested "Look in the mirror, we're the real monsters"....no that is bullshit, we're not throwing acid on women trying to go to school, or stoning rape VICTIMS to death or chopping off hands of thieves, or hacking the heads off of random people visiting our country.

And our soldiers aren't having their fucking glamor shots on the fucking cover of the Rolling Stone either.

[Gandalf]

Your soldiers are responsible for the worst crap in history lest you forget. The A-bomb, the chemicals in Korea, the entire nation slaughter of Vietnam.

You forget your reasons for war. Terrorists, then in Iraq, weapons of mass destruction and now arming Syrian rebels.

The world thinks of you as in their face. And you are in their face and tell them what to do.

How could you ever market yourself to Rolling Stone? That would be absurd considering most of your wars have been based on lies. Rolling Stone is on our side and most ordinary people mock the American war effort.

Rolling Stone presented an honest shot, and like I say.....read the article Lyle. Otherwise you argue in ignorance.

[El Kabong]

Your soldiers are responsible for the worst crap in history lest you forget. The A-bomb, the chemicals in Korea, the entire nation slaughter of Vietnam.

You forget your reasons for war. Terrorists, then in Iraq, weapons of mass destruction and now arming Syrian rebels.

The world thinks of you as in their face. And you are in their face and tell them what to do.

How could you ever market yourself to Rolling Stone? That would be absurd considering most of your wars have been based on lies. Rolling Stone is on our side and most ordinary people mock the American war effort.

Rolling Stone presented an honest shot, and like I say.....read the article Lyle. Otherwise you argue in ignorance.

Your view on American military history is crooked and absurd. #1 The atomic bombs dropped on Japan SAVED LIVES that is 100% fact. They saved American, British, Russian, and Japanese lives it is undeniable. #2 The United States has dropped more A-bombs on Nevada than anywhere else

I'm 100% opposed to arming the Syrian "rebels" those bastards are terrorists!

"Our" side...who's "our" represent? The commies, the panty waste bleeding heart liberals who don't work for a living yet want the biggest say in the government, the professional students who have no common sense at all? The Occupy groups....lazy entitled bums....they should be so lucky they are allowed to speak unlike Conservatives who are constantly attacked for using their right to free speech.


Did the US kill the Jews in the Holocaust miles? Did they kill the Jews in the Pogroms in Soviet Russia? Did we starve out the Chinese under Mao? Did we starve out the Irish? Did we implement Apartheid? Did the US military cause the rape of Nanking? Did the US military do nothing to prevent ethnic cleansing in Bosnia? The killing fields in Cambodia...is the US directly responsible for that as well?

End fascism and destroy the Nazis in the most important war fought and end communism peacefully and you still get spat at by mealy mouthed crybaby liberals and called a "baby killer".....Here's a fact for you to chew over you ungrateful bastard, if not for the military men and women you so love to condemn then you miles wouldn't be in South Korea where you're free to speak your mind and think all the outrageous bullcrap you spout...you'd either be in England which would either be a bombed out husk or part of the Nazi super state or perhaps part of the Soviet Bloc or you'd be in Korea and all of Korea would be as fucked as the North.....so when you have your little socialist daydreams about how great and wonderful life would be without the United States just remember what this nation has provided you by simply being around to kick the ass of bad guys.

[Onetime]

Rolling Stone does very good hard news, I use to be a subscriber and every issue would have a story on Bush and they would have dumb quotes by politicians.

It's funny because the picture was used in other places and no one cared.

[El Kabong]

Rolling Stone does very good hard news, I use to be a subscriber and every issue would have a story on Bush and they would have dumb quotes by politicians.

It's funny because the picture was used in other places and no one cared.

Yeah that's just about the way they do things...malign and ridicule the Right in an attempt to silence them.

[Beanflicker]

I think the purpose of the "regular guy" picture was to reiterate the frightening possibility of "home-grown" terrorism perpetrated by your everyday normal "boy next door". I don't object the choice of picture: people know what he did and the horror he caused. I think the article's purpose is to go beyond the acts and examine what inspires a "normal", fun loving guy like Dzhokhar to do something so horrific.

Now whether or not it belongs on the cover is certainly debatable.