AJ has had the red carpet treatment to become the heavyweight champion. Lennox had to face the hardest tests to get to the titles. He will have the better CV when AJ retires.
AJ has had the red carpet treatment to become the heavyweight champion. Lennox had to face the hardest tests to get to the titles. He will have the better CV when AJ retires.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Who cares about any of that? You've read what I wrote? And decided that I'm saying Joshua is better than Lewis or has a better record. Not the case.
I'll run with it for the sake of argument. Compare what we can compare. 24 fights. Who has the better record after 24 fights?
Lewis had a second career if you like post McCall. Joshua almost certainly wont have that. In that respect Lewis will separate himself in terms of CV. But even now. The 24 fights Joshua has had, is enough for me to say he more than competes with anything Lewis fought, and beats the overwhelming majority of those that Lewis did.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
I get what you're saying and I don't think the division is poor in terms of quality compared to those that came before them.
I mean in terms of quality in comparisons to other divisions. I know that other divisions are also overall lacking in quality, and these things can go in cycles (welterweight 10 years ago was incredibly stacked for instance). But I think it's amplified even more so with the heavies as the stellar division that gets the most interest in casual fan circles.
Currently it's really only the "big 3", and we know that Fury is even levels above Wilder now. Then you have the likes of Whyte, Povetkin, Ruiz and Ortiz on the next rung down.
Then a massive drop in quality with a couple of decent prospects in between? I think the heavyweight division always tend to be poor in comparison to other weight divisions and I think it's been increasingly getting shallower probably since the later 90s. Or it oculd have been the case that there's only ever been a few standout performers in any given heavyweight era, followed by a few moderately decent campaigners and the rest were garbage??
Whytes just added Dave Coldwell to his corner at the last minute.
Nerves kicking in I reckon
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...vyweight-clash
I am saying that AJ has avoided huge punchers like Wilder and probably would have avoided Razzor and Bruno who were no better because he may have gotten beaten. I can not see AJ beat Mercer under the conditions Lennox faced which was a small ring and hostile New York crowd.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Master please say this is a wind up. If it is you've done me good and proper. If it's not you're fucking nuts. You're doing what all revisionists do. Oh he fought tough top contenders. Bullshit, they were rank average fighters in decline who were losing against anything half decent. Anyway, this is slightly detracting from the thread topic so I'll leave it there. Maybe start a new thread
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
Part of me hopes it was the plan all along and Coldwell was always coming in late to 'advise'. I'm not so sure and tend to agree that it's a bit of a late panic move. On who's part I'm not sure. You wouldn't peg Dillian as the type to panic, lose his bottle and ask for a bit of backup. His trainer has been in and around the camp for a while but never at the helm so maybe it's for his benefit.
Difficult to tell from clothed pictures but Dillian looks in good shape, looks lean. I hope all these bits and pieces aren't a distraction. Or rolled out as an excuse if he comes a cropper.
When God said to the both of us "Which one of you wants to be Sugar Ray?" I guess I didnt raise my hand fast enough
Charley Burley
What could bringing Coldwell in at this late stage possibly achieve??
I mean if somehow Coldwell has some magical insight about Povetkin that the team didn't pick up on, and thus train for, it's not like they can suddenly go back and start working on that thing.
Just don't see what the benefits are other than just an extra seasoned voice to hear and have some input?
Anyone by chance know the start time for this Stateside? We've had back to back Saturdays stacked with 3-4 live cards, things seem to definitely be looking up Covid be damned.
5 televised events this weekend.
Tomorrow in Spain Sergio Garcia makes a comeback, on the undercard of Sergio Garcia. It's on Fite TV, maybe Spain only I'm not sure.
Then Saturday is the 2 UK cards: the big sky matchroom PPV and channel 5 Hennessy show.
2 cards in the states: Porter headlining and Eleider Alvarez vs Joe Smith Jr at the Bubble in The MGM.
Nice!
Katie Taylor by majority decision 12-1
Persoon by KO 33-1
Draw 12-1
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