earnie shavers: the hardest heavyweight puncher ever?

[Beanflicker]

Earnie was a big puncher for sure. He was a farm boy. Chopping trees and throwing barrels of hay made him strong as an ox.

[Max Power]

Yeah Earnie was a hard puncher for sure.

Tommy Morrison, LEnnox Lewis, Mike Tyson, Geroge Foreman, Samuel Peter, David Tua, Hasim Rahman, Bermane Stiverne, Deontay Wilder, Razor Ruddock, Michael Grant, Chris Arreola, Henry Akinwande.

Those are a small selection of REALLY hard punchers as per recent HW standards. They smash the lights out of GOOD opponents. And HEAVY opponents.

A good question is could Earnie Shavers hit harder than David Haye!?

[Ron Swanson]

And Tex Cobb KOed him so what?

[Max Power]

Fighters talk smack all the time, ESPECIALLY when it comes to pumping up their own wins.

Muhammad Ali himself is another member of the "Club of Nostalgia Delusion"

Years after his fight with Karl Mildenberger one of the most featherfisted guys to ever step foot into the ring, he later claimed that this Mildenberger was the hardest puncher he fought.

It seems that "Cover up Clay" was better at it with his mouth than he was covering up in the ring LOL

[Max Power]

LOL...... @Max Power

Are you still arguing against what Ali, Holmes, and Lyle were all quoted as saying??

Give it a rest, bro.

Once again.... pick your battles. When you start saying that three former fighters are full of shit for saying that Shavers was the one who punched them the hardest...... what are you arguing against? This isn't a fan's point of view, or even PhD in punching power. These are the actual recipients of the punches, expressing their own, personal opinion.

Do you play poker? Are you familiar with the old Kenny Rogers song?
That would be my advice to you.

I do understand poker. That is why it's ironic for me that you cannot see it's these fighters who are keeping the poker face here.

Fighters talk smack all the time. And the BEST smack talk comes when they are self-glorifying their own wins.

Everybody knows now and knew then that Shavers was a total bum. Except some guys struggled and lost to this bum. None of them are going to claim they struggled with a bum.

OBVIOUSLY they are going to want to pump up their Shavers win because it does justice for their resume. Especially if they all band together on it cause they all fought him.

The problem is, the comments these guys made flies totally in the face of all the evidence.

Cobb was wasted by a guy I never heard of and was never any good anyway.

Holmes was wasted by Tyson so dramatically he probably doesn't even REMEMBER the punch! Yet got up from Shavers to win and even claims to REMEMBER the punch.

Ali also claimed featherfist Karl Mildenberger hit him hardest! And was never even DROPPED by Shavers but was dropped often by many other boxers!

How can Ken Norton's word mean anything when he layed crumpled on the canvas left right and centre by various opponents. He would barely remember what day of the week it was each time!

And on and on!

All of these guys (bar Norton) BEAT Shavers, but suffered stoppages and KO's to other fighters.

They are OBVIOUSLY and BLATANTLY lying, heresay and self-swaggery is exactly what it is!

These kinds of comments are utterly worthless and should play absolutely zero role in Shaver's power assessment.

If you cannot see this, your analytical skills suck!

[Mr140]

Hardest puncher might be Lewis or Foreman those guys might have it on lock down to be honest. Also who never get mention is Bowe that guy hit like a train never gets mention was a champ to even.

[Mr140]

Shavers hit Holmes with the biggest fucking shot i have ever seen yet his skill and stamina were so fucking bad that Holmes was allowed to recover. Holmes had a chin was a champ and could box with the best of him so why the fuck are we talking about shavers not more about Holmes.

[Bill Paxtom]

'Round 4'

Earnie comes out with intention of ending the bout, as 'Irish Pat' looked
weary at the end of Round 3.

Earnie starts off with forward-pressing, and sends in hard blows to Duncan's
body.

Pat goes back to the Ropes, and tries to fend off the punches. But Earnie will
not be denied, and continues with a steady flow of hard body-punches.

Pat comes back with a '3-Punch' combination, but he has no 'zip' behind his
punches. Pat lands a good right-hand lead to Earnie's face at the {1:30 Mark}.

Earnie rocks Pat with a long right-hand to the head at the {1:45 Mark}. Earnie
keeps up the pressure.

Pat in now bleeding from the nose, and his face is beet red. Pat reels on
his heels at the {2:20 Mark} after taking another barrage of blows to the head.

Earnie nearly drops Pat, when he lands a left-hook to the head and hard right-hand
into the left side Pat's body at the {2:30 Mark}.

Pat spends the last 20-Seconds of the Round in 'survival-mode'.

[Bill Paxtom]

Wednesday ~ March 24, 1971

Silver Slipper ~ Las Vegas, Nevada

Earnie Shavers ~ 22-2-0 {22 KO's} ~ 208 lbs. ~ {Age; 25 years, 7 months}
vs.
Young Agabab ~ 14-0-0 {13 KO's} ~ 196 1/2 lbs. ~ {Age; 24 years, 3 months}
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Young Agabab was a 24 year-old - 6' 2" - 196 lb. southpaw Heavyweight
from Nigeria.

Agabab won the West African Heavyweight Championship in 1970. He then
came to Los Angeles in December 1970 to improve his boxing-skills.

He then went out to Las Vegas in February 1971 to get some work as a
sparring-partner at Johnny Tocco's Gym, and to sharpen his skills.

He was a fast-handed 6' 2" southpaw who had a good straight left-hand
with power.

[Bill Paxtom]

The Bout'

Earnie walked across the Ring, and met the Nigerian at Center-Ring.

Earnie tossed out '3' measuring left-jabs, as the lanky southpaw countered
with a long left-hand lead.

Earnie then came back with a straight right-hand, that landed square on
Young Agabab's chin.

The Nigerian flopped backwards and reeled back across the Ring.

Earnie then moved forward, and reeled-off a '4-Punch' barrage that sent the
Nigerian into the Ropes and onto the canvas at the {0:22 Mark}.

Young Agabab was given an '8-Count' by Referee - Mills Lane.

The Nigerian got on his fast-wheels, and literally ran around the Ring as Earnie
chased him for the next 35-Seconds.

Earnie finally trapped Agabab long enough to unload his 'heavy-arsenal', and
the Nigerian collapsed in a heep at the {1:14 Mark} after taking a hard right-hook
to the left side of his head.

Referee - Mills Lane counted out Young Agabab @ 1:25 of Round 1.

AP Report > "Shavers Wins By Knockout"

"Nigerian - Young Agabab Loses For The 1st-Time In 15-Bouts"

[brocktonblockbust]

The Bout'

Earnie walked across the Ring, and met the Nigerian at Center-Ring.

Earnie tossed out '3' measuring left-jabs, as the lanky southpaw countered
with a long left-hand lead.

Earnie then came back with a straight right-hand, that landed square on
Young Agabab's chin.

The Nigerian flopped backwards and reeled back across the Ring.

Earnie then moved forward, and reeled-off a '4-Punch' barrage that sent the
Nigerian into the Ropes and onto the canvas at the {0:22 Mark}.

Young Agabab was given an '8-Count' by Referee - Mills Lane.

The Nigerian got on his fast-wheels, and literally ran around the Ring as Earnie
chased him for the next 35-Seconds.

Earnie finally trapped Agabab long enough to unload his 'heavy-arsenal', and
the Nigerian collapsed in a heep at the {1:14 Mark} after taking a hard right-hook
to the left side of his head.

Referee - Mills Lane counted out Young Agabab @ 1:25 of Round 1.

AP Report > "Shavers Wins By Knockout"

"Nigerian - Young Agabab Loses For The 1st-Time In 15-Bouts"

@Bill Paxtom that is a terrific fight synopsis @Max Power what is it here that you cannot understand?

[Bill Paxtom]

Round 5

'Irish Pat' is slow in coming out for Round 5.

Earnie, knowing that he has a hurt opponent in front of him, takes it
easy for the first 1-Minute, and eases into Pat with light-punches.

At the {1:10 Mark}, Earnie picks up the pace and forces Pat back to the
Corner.

There, Earnie unloads with his heavy-bombs. 'Irish Pat' takes about a
half-dozen bombs before going down at the {1:26 Mark}.

Pat gets up at the '6-Count', and looks hurt. But he wants to continue.

Earnie moves in, and rips away with left-hooks and several right-hands
to the left-side of Pat's head, as Pat turns to his right-side.

Pat Duncan goes down on his right-side, and is counted out at the
{1:57 Mark} of Round 5.

AP Report > "Shavers Captures Nevada State Heavyweight Title"

[brocktonblockbust]

Round 5

'Irish Pat' is slow in coming out for Round 5.

Earnie, knowing that he has a hurt opponent in front of him, takes it
easy for the first 1-Minute, and eases into Pat with light-punches.

At the {1:10 Mark}, Earnie picks up the pace and forces Pat back to the
Corner.

There, Earnie unloads with his heavy-bombs. 'Irish Pat' takes about a
half-dozen bombs before going down at the {1:26 Mark}.

Pat gets up at the '6-Count', and looks hurt. But he wants to continue.

Earnie moves in, and rips away with left-hooks and several right-hands
to the left-side of Pat's head, as Pat turns to his right-side.

Pat Duncan goes down on his right-side, and is counted out at the
{1:57 Mark} of Round 5.

AP Report > "Shavers Captures Nevada State Heavyweight Title"

There! Right there! @Max Power @Beanflicker Right there, you see Earnie beating a Top 25 heavyweight. "Irish" Pat Duncan, a big man with very fast combinatins for a heavyweight, highly-touted, touted even higher than Scott LeDoux or Duane Bobick was, for that time. EARNIE SHAVERS RUINED DUNCAN'S CAREER BEFORE IT EVEN GOT STARTED. A devastating KO for Shavers that night.

[brocktonblockbust]

Fighters talk smack all the time, ESPECIALLY when it comes to pumping up their own wins.

Muhammad Ali himself is another member of the "Club of Nostalgia Delusion"

Years after his fight with Karl Mildenberger one of the most featherfisted guys to ever step foot into the ring, he later claimed that this Mildenberger was the hardest puncher he fought.

It seems that "Cover up Clay" was better at it with his mouth than he was covering up in the ring LOL

Mildenberger was a solid puncher, he wasnt lying. Karl got off real good in that fight, punishing ali to the liver and kidneys.

[brocktonblockbust]

Hardest puncher might be Lewis or Foreman those guys might have it on lock down to be honest. Also who never get mention is Bowe that guy hit like a train never gets mention was a champ to even.

guys who fought Foreman all say Shavers hit harder. (ALI< NORTON< LYLE)