Vitali's 1st career: KICKboxing!!??

[brocktonblockbust]

thıs thread has put the hoo-doo on vıtalı now----how much you wanna bet he loses hıs next 2 fıghts?

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Il bet my house he wins every fookin fight until he retires even at 41! Look kickboxing is something i know about and vitali was a good kickboxer but he never fought anyone of note really, no one great anyway, he fought in the lower ranking bodies and never won any major honours or any of the MAJOR world titles, nor did he fight in K1! Being a multiple world champ in kickboxing sounds impressive but there are many organisations in which you can win belts, and many non great fighters have took a belt or two, vitali was a good kickboxer but he is not considered a great in kickboxing....who knows though had he stuck at the sport rather than chose HW boxing! He is the kind of athlete who would have been great at any combat sport, watching him in K1 would have been interesting and watching the warrior that is vitali klitschko go up against the likes of the great peter aerts, cikatic, hoost and kaman would have been interesting!!

Secondly pele reid was not a great kicboxer either, in fact he was pretty average, he was also beat by the likes of julius francis and orlin norris in boxing! Like i said if you want see a great kickboxer see rob kaman or branko cikatic.

Alexey ignashov etc would have made great HW boxers too.

[TigerFan]

Somebody finally uploaded the "infamous" Pele Reid kickboxing match.

[TysonBomb]

Vitali "I got kicked in the thigh"

Yeah you really got kicked in your "thigh"

[TysonBomb]

The news story about Vitali Klitschko’s kickboxing is NOT that he lost to Pele Reid (a guy who tried Boxing and didn’t make it!) All top Kickboxers have gotten clocked cold even the best ones like Rob kaman, Branko cikatic, Ernesto Hoost, Peter Aerts, Bernardo, Hug, LeBanner, Theriault, Dekkers, Bille etc. It’s happened often, so that isn’t news to proper kickboxing fans. Kickboxing is a much more brutal/competitive sport than HW boxing it has a big history in eastern europe for youngsters, in fact you could argue that the HW division in boxing and even boxing as a whole has lost a of potential boxing champions to kickboxing. Alexey ignashov being one example....

The news story here is that Klitschko ran through all the available competition in Europe in the late 80’s, early 90’s, became a multiple world champion, and he did it all as a teenager ! (Albeit the competition he fought wasn't of the calibre of the above mentioned but still...)

The pele Reid match was in Varna, Bulgaria at the WAKO European Kickboxing Championships, but it took place in 1992, not 93’.

But because Klitschko actually became famous years later on the world stage, that stoppage loss to Reid has become quite a little controversy, but accounts of what happened contrast sharply.

I don’t see why it couldn’t have happened, as Klitschko was just a kid at the time (20), and a rail thin 6’7.5” 196 pounder who hadn’t even gotten to the peak of his amateur Boxing career yet, but it’s difficult it is to get verification of it.

Vitali remembers it being a leg kick for which he had to retire from the fight,a number of others offer up the same recollection:

When asked, Vitali states:
“Who is Pele Reid? It was so long ago that I forgot all about him. Nobody knows who Pele Reid is. My fight with him was a semi-contact kickboxing match. I lost that fight because of a kick to my thigh, not a punch. The thigh had been injured previously, and I shouldn’t have participated in the match, but I was a determined boy”.

I’m told that Master Meiji Suzuki of the Mugendo in London had no recollection of it being a head kick.
Dwyer Evelyn, John Lawson, Keith Wilson, Raf Nieto, George McKenzie and Desmond Burke didn’t recall a head kick being involved either, but I personally have no idea if any of them were there in Bulgaria that day & it’s not my place to say if any of them were even in position to know one way or the other.

I do know that aside from Reid himself, during at interview with writer Matt Winsper, that Gary Turner is the source always quoted when the idea of a kick to the head of Klitschko comes up.

I know also that Reid never said a word about it to the press until very recently, after the story about a head kick had already circulated for a while.

That tape would be a great thing to put up on Youtube, if it exists, but so far, nothing.

James warring was another successful boxer/kickboxer winning world titles in both sports.

Bottom line is vitali was much better as a boxer than a kickboxer. Part of that may be due to maturing (Being at his peak) while in boxing, but I think it also has to do with Vitali simply being a better boxer than a kickboxer.

He beat Brad Hefton & Ryushi Yanagisawa (Pancrase fighter)....I believe he also beat Australian kickboxer Grant Barker.

Make of all that what you will but i suggest if you really want to see Vitaly get knocked out you have 2 options:

1. Hypnotize Wlad and brain wash him into believing that the real Vitaly is trapped in another dimension and unless he fights the impostor he'll never return. Then hope and pray that it works and that Wladimir himself doesn't get knocked out.

2. Play Fight Night, put it on easy. Swing away.I think there is also a video of Vitali getting KD in a school fight when he was 6 years old. Im sure you can use that to discredit vitali alsoatsch

Vitali didn't forget that KO and never will ... he was kicked square in the jaw not in his "injured thigh." His credibility is a joke just like his boxing career.

Now if only there was footage of the bout he had with Maskaev in the amateurs where he got dropped 3 times and TKOed in the first round

Here's Vitali accusing him of "lying"

http://www.kommersant.com/p-11623/r_...schko_Maksaev/

The PED abusing gangly armed freak is currently ducking Haye

[Beanflicker]

Matt Skelton did the same shit I think.

Eventually kickboxers come to the realization... THERES NO MONEY IN KICKBOXING

[brocktonblockbust]

vitali is a great athlete---have to admire him for sure. great athlete great condition and fast and strong. cannot ask for more than that......

still rank him #17 or so All-Time Great

[erics44]

ive always wanted to see the pele reid KO

now i have seen it its a a dissapointment, i wish i never had

[Fenster]

Finally after all these years.

The Pele Reid KO'd Vitali wind-up was one of my favs

@Lyle - that wasn't no "leg kick" (), he got his chin well and truly cracked

[Beanflicker]

I don't care how big, strong and tough you are. You're not going to take a flush spinning kick to the chin and stay conscious.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

LOL. So what? Maskaev stopped VK in the amateurs! Kickboxing is not even the same sport, so who cares? Michael Jordan didn't look so hot as a baseball player either, but it doesn't affect his legacy as a basketballer.

Wake me when you find footage of someone knocking VK out in a boxing ring, something that happened many moons ago in a kickboxing competition is not relevant.

Someone post the fight where Orlin Norris kayoed Pele Reid in 1 round. That has relevance on here.

The hatred on SB for K2 is astounding and quite pitiful really. I could understand it if they were just 'a flash in the pan' but it's been a decade of dominance now. Haters are getting old.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

Finally after all these years.

The Pele Reid KO'd Vitali wind-up was one of my favs

@Lyle - that wasn't no "leg kick" (), he got his chin well and truly cracked

Who's lyle?

[Beanflicker]

I think it speaks even more highly of Vitali to make the transition from kickboxing to boxing and reach such a high level. Kickboxers obviously don't have near the punching skill that a boxer does, and they are used to fighting at a different range than boxers (kicking range rather than punching range). In kickboxing you also get used to keeping guys away with front kicks, so in order to become the champ he was, Vitali had to un-learn a TON of kickboxing habits. I'm surprised over the years he never kicked someone just on instinct in a boxing match.

[THE PHILOSOPHER]

I think it speaks even more highly of Vitali to make the transition from kickboxing to boxing and reach such a high level. Kickboxers obviously don't have near the punching skill that a boxer does, and they are used to fighting at a different range than boxers (kicking range rather than punching range). In kickboxing you also get used to keeping guys away with front kicks, so in order to become the champ he was, Vitali had to un-learn a TON of kickboxing habits. I'm surprised over the years he never kicked someone just on instinct in a boxing match.

Do u know who lyle is? He keeps calling me lyle. Im confused...

[Fenster]

@THE PHILOSOPHER - Who's calling you Lyle?

Lyle is the Klits biggest ever fan (well until you arrived).