Haye v Bellew - 4/3/17 rd-by-rd

[Fenster]

Ross doesn't need evidence his outstanding credentials speak for themselves.

Not only is he the only person on earth that picked Fury to annihilate Wlad but the coup de grace - he once sat ringside to judge an amateur fight in a scout hut, there ain't nothing he doesn't know about boxing. Fact.

[TitoFan]

It doesn't matter how severe Hayes injury was , at the end of the day he lost to a fat CW.
He is nothing more than a show pony now living in the past.

This................... is the real point of it all.

[Master]

After Tony Bellew became one of the most wanted heavyweights in the world, we asked him to assess five possible opponents.

The 'Bomber' is considering one more fight against the biggest men in boxing following Saturday's stoppage victory over David Haye at The O2.

Haye has already called for a rematch, while two world champions are also being considered by Bellew, who gives his brutally honest verdict.

Deontay Wilder
He's extremely explosive and powerful. Leaky defence and exactly what it says on the tin - wild at times. But an exceptional fighter, very fast, someone I rate highly.

He's a heavyweight champion of the world and I'm the best heavyweight outside the champions, so make of that what you will. I don't know what else I can say about it.

David Haye
Still a brilliant fighter. Still very fast, still very powerful. Would I fight him again? Yeah, and I would beat him again as well.

I could potentially get him out earlier, because he will show me a lot more respect this time. I won't have to gain and earn his respect, like I did in the first fight. It takes time to do that.

Tyson Fury
I rate Tyson Fury highly. A very, very good fighter. Let's not forget what he did in Germany. He did the unthinkable, no-one gave him a hope, and he went there and did it.

A man who has fought the odds like me, we're champions of the misfits. He doesn't aesthetically look very beautiful, similar to me, but the man can fight - he can really, really fight.

If everything goes well and he passes everything he needs to pass, then it's a fight that can potentially happen, yes it is.

Joseph Parker
He's a shorter, solid fighter. A throwback to the old heavyweight days. He's not your modern day giant of a heavyweight. He's big and he's solid, but I think he is the lesser of the other champions.

I still think he's a brilliant fighter, he's very good at what he does, but he is not as good as Anthony Joshua or Deontay Wilder.

Dillian Whyte
I'm not even going to give him the time of day. What he said is I'm going to get 'absolutely smoked' by David Haye.

He was wrong and why am I going to fight someone in a final world title eliminator, who got knocked out in a British title fight? Why would I fight him when I have got every world champion calling my name? It makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm not going to knock out the best heavyweight in the world outside the champions and then fight a guy who lost for the British title.
Dream location
I have already fought at my dream location. You know what, I do like the sound of Wembley.

Could I fill Wembley? I don't know. Would enough people want to see me fight at Wembley? I don't know, but I do like the sound of Wembley.

Bellew analyses five opponents

[ross]

@ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you

Piss off crybaby.

Ban yourself for altering my post

[smashup]

@ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you

Piss off crybaby.

Ban yourself for altering my post

Nobody has altered any of your posts @ross

Any evidence of your claims or are you gonna remain an annoying troll?

[ross]

@ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you

Piss off crybaby.

Ban yourself for altering my post

Nobody has altered any of your posts @ross

Any evidence of your claims or are you gonna remain an annoying troll?

Apart from you...

never left Oz doesn't really matter, most of the fighters in the top 10 in the UK at all weights have never left England

Who do you want him to fight? Saunders, GGG, Canelo, Jacobs? any of those realistic?

I think its a wise move all in all and a half decent test up in weight

Yah he obviously has a bit of power too this Quinlan. He wiped out Geale.









@ross ...... he hardly hit him then pushed him over

What the fuck! How and why is @smashup editing other people's posts to add his own rubbish?

Ill answer the question though. Take a look at how he responded from that "push" when he tried getting up. He was wiped out!

Whoops! Out of practise, hit edit instead of quote button, it's clearly not rubbish, Geale is a spineless fighter and that's been proven before, no way that "half punch" had that effect on him and then yes he was pushed in the face then fell over, i've seen it a number of times....it's pathetic

[Batman]

@ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you

Piss off crybaby.

Ban yourself for altering my post

Nobody has altered any of your posts @ross

Any evidence of your claims or are you gonna remain an annoying troll?

Apart from you...

never left Oz doesn't really matter, most of the fighters in the top 10 in the UK at all weights have never left England

Who do you want him to fight? Saunders, GGG, Canelo, Jacobs? any of those realistic?

I think its a wise move all in all and a half decent test up in weight

Yah he obviously has a bit of power too this Quinlan. He wiped out Geale.









@ross ...... he hardly hit him then pushed him over

What the fuck! How and why is @smashup editing other people's posts to add his own rubbish?

Ill answer the question though. Take a look at how he responded from that "push" when he tried getting up. He was wiped out!

Whoops! Out of practise, hit edit instead of quote button, it's clearly not rubbish, Geale is a spineless fighter and that's been proven before, no way that "half punch" had that effect on him and then yes he was pushed in the face then fell over, i've seen it a number of times....it's pathetic

ah so providing evidence of things isn't actually beneath you

could you please also provide the video evidence of Haye pushing off on his injured leg to try and land that massive hayemaker that you was talking about.

[ross]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

[Primo Carnera]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

Ok @ross we get it, you've boxed. But so what? You were shit! Then they didn't want you as a ref. Why? Cos you knew fuck all about boxing. So you became a judge, and guess what ? You were shit!!!
Why the fuck would anyone bother listening to a word you say about the sport, you clueless fucking idiot.

[Gandalf]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

People can do all kinds of things with a serious injury. My wife had a similar injury to what Haye had. I told her to go to the hospital and sort it out, but she thought she knew better and limped around for a few days, went to work, and tried to continue as normal. Ended up needing a pretty big operation to fix it up. Just an ordinary person. Someone like Haye, an athlete, buzzing on adrenaline and in the midst of a fight would have been able to do what he did. He did it and the evidence is out there showing the injury was genuine. You sound like a plonker talking like you are here. 'You guys don't know boxing blah, blah, blah'. Plenty of us have been around people who have had similar injuries and seen exactly what they can or can't do. Haye was throwing punches, but he wasn't generating the same kind of leverage at all. I'm not sure he was 100% to begin with.

[ross]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

People can do all kinds of things with a serious injury. My wife had a similar injury to what Haye had. I told her to go to the hospital and sort it out, but she thought she knew better and limped around for a few days, went to work, and tried to continue as normal. Ended up needing a pretty big operation to fix it up. Just an ordinary person. Someone like Haye, an athlete, buzzing on adrenaline and in the midst of a fight would have been able to do what he did. He did it and the evidence is out there showing the injury was genuine. You sound like a plonker talking like you are here. 'You guys don't know boxing blah, blah, blah'. Plenty of us have been around people who have had similar injuries and seen exactly what they can or can't do. Haye was throwing punches, but he wasn't generating the same kind of leverage at all. I'm not sure he was 100% to begin with.

Jesus Christ... Do you not understand the mechanics of the Achilles? It attaches the calf to the foot. It attaches one end to the skeleton. Without that the calf muscle is only attached one end and not functioning. Yes someone could hobble around but your trying to say what you your wife does at work is akin to boxing? She's throwing her weight round on either foot trying to punch someone in the head? Give over... Some just like to argue here for the sake of it. Also, this photo evidence, take another look and where in that photo does it prove its Haye? The girl who posted it on Twitter was called out on it as in where did that photo come from because she never even said where she got it from. Doesn't even actually say it's from or of Haye, so technically she's not lying and she is where that picture originated from. Haye was also asked and he never responded either. Some people are so gullible. The week leading up to the fight Haye goes out of his way to have a photo in Munich with a surgeon, why not here? If your going to have a photo taken of your surgery to prove it happened why not get your face in the pic, anything other than just a random none identifyable pic of surgery. Why not a statement from the surgeon? Nothing... Put him on Jeremy Kyle with a lie detector

[ross]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

Ok @ross we get it, you've boxed. But so what? You were shit! Then they didn't want you as a ref. Why? Cos you knew fuck all about boxing. So you became a judge, and guess what ? You were shit!!!
Why the fuck would anyone bother listening to a word you say about the sport, you clueless fucking idiot.

Feeble response from someone too gutless to fight

[Gandalf]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

People can do all kinds of things with a serious injury. My wife had a similar injury to what Haye had. I told her to go to the hospital and sort it out, but she thought she knew better and limped around for a few days, went to work, and tried to continue as normal. Ended up needing a pretty big operation to fix it up. Just an ordinary person. Someone like Haye, an athlete, buzzing on adrenaline and in the midst of a fight would have been able to do what he did. He did it and the evidence is out there showing the injury was genuine. You sound like a plonker talking like you are here. 'You guys don't know boxing blah, blah, blah'. Plenty of us have been around people who have had similar injuries and seen exactly what they can or can't do. Haye was throwing punches, but he wasn't generating the same kind of leverage at all. I'm not sure he was 100% to begin with.

Jesus Christ... Do you not understand the mechanics of the Achilles? It attaches the calf to the foot. It attaches one end to the skeleton. Without that the calf muscle is only attached one end and not functioning. Yes someone could hobble around but your trying to say what you your wife does at work is akin to boxing? She's throwing her weight round on either foot trying to punch someone in the head? Give over... Some just like to argue here for the sake of it. Also, this photo evidence, take another look and where in that photo does it prove its Haye? The girl who posted it on Twitter was called out on it as in where did that photo come from because she never even said where she got it from. Doesn't even actually say it's from or of Haye, so technically she's not lying and she is where that picture originated from. Haye was also asked and he never responded either. Some people are so gullible. The week leading up to the fight Haye goes out of his way to have a photo in Munich with a surgeon, why not here? If your going to have a photo taken of your surgery to prove it happened why not get your face in the pic, anything other than just a random none identifyable pic of surgery. Why not a statement from the surgeon? Nothing... Put him on Jeremy Kyle with a lie detector

Maybe my memory is failing me, but she was hobbling around pretty well and refused to go to hospital thinking it would heal. I told her she was bonkers and to get it checked pronto. Turned out I was right, it was pretty serious. You can walk around for days with such an injury and be an ordinary person. David Haye by contrast is clearly an athlete and a man that in the heat of battle felt he would land a lucky punch and weather it for 20 minutes. That he was standing upright and winging punches with no proper leverage is perfectly feasible.

You have taken to this conspiracy lark every single time so your credibility is wearing thin. You can see in the fight exactly where it tears, you can't act that Ross. Haye was not out of breath, he has injured and it seems only you cannot see it. People have provided evidence, they have cited examples, they have shown anectdotal evidence, but you won't see any of it. That's your call, but you look a bit silly on this one.

[smashup]

@ross produce the evidence or i'll ban you

Piss off crybaby.

Ban yourself for altering my post

Nobody has altered any of your posts @ross

Any evidence of your claims or are you gonna remain an annoying troll?

Apart from you...

never left Oz doesn't really matter, most of the fighters in the top 10 in the UK at all weights have never left England

Who do you want him to fight? Saunders, GGG, Canelo, Jacobs? any of those realistic?

I think its a wise move all in all and a half decent test up in weight

Yah he obviously has a bit of power too this Quinlan. He wiped out Geale.









@ross ...... he hardly hit him then pushed him over

What the fuck! How and why is @smashup editing other people's posts to add his own rubbish?

Ill answer the question though. Take a look at how he responded from that "push" when he tried getting up. He was wiped out!

Whoops! Out of practise, hit edit instead of quote button, it's clearly not rubbish, Geale is a spineless fighter and that's been proven before, no way that "half punch" had that effect on him and then yes he was pushed in the face then fell over, i've seen it a number of times....it's pathetic

Like i said nobody has altered anything you posted
Have a nice break @ross

[Primo Carnera]

Did you not actually watch the fight? Every right hand he threw required his weight being pushed off his right foot. It's hard to describe to those that havent boxed competitively and you can all try and give me shit for saying that but unless you've tried to throw right hands in a bout you won't know how it feels to go through the mechanics. Maybe someone else who's boxed could comment? But in my opinion which is based on experience and the fact Haye wouldn't have had the use of his right calfs there is no way he could have balance to punch let alone push off with force to throw a right hand.

Ok @ross we get it, you've boxed. But so what? You were shit! Then they didn't want you as a ref. Why? Cos you knew fuck all about boxing. So you became a judge, and guess what ? You were shit!!!
Why the fuck would anyone bother listening to a word you say about the sport, you clueless fucking idiot.

Feeble response from someone too gutless to fight

Show me one FACT to back up your claim? whereas we KNOW that they didn't want you as a ref, and we KNOW that you shit yourself and bottled it as a judge because YOU WROTE IT ON HERE! Although now you've probably gone in and deleted the post. You've been done again, CLOWN!
Just for you I'll finish off with a "cool" emoji.